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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by Aimee:
Thanks scotty looks like noirin has been found out

Caught bonnie as we say up here in Scotland Aimee

Well and truly stitched herself up like a kipper.

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Originally posted by swg:
But we haven't actually seen what Siavash said, just seen the aftermath

He only CLAIMS to say he said he thought what others think

Freddie witnessed most of it. Marcus witnessed it all although he can`t remember the names Siavash said he thought, thought it.

He defended Siavash on that very matter on LF last night.

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Originally posted by stonks:

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by stonks:
Thanks Scotty..I had to keep turning the tv channel over her voice was really grating me but it was great seeing the panic on cruel and the gangs face....

Her shrieking voice woke me up at 2am

That voice should be used for burglar alarms....

Indeed

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Originally posted by Tiddly~Wink:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by Aimee:
Thanks scotty looks like noirin has been found out

Caught bonnie as we say up here in Scotland Aimee

Well and truly stitched herself up like a kipper.

That`s another one!

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Originally posted by Gorgeous Mimi:
Thanks for the update Scotty x

You`re welcome Mimi x

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Originally posted by Sunnie:
Ahhhh makes more sense now, cheers Scotty xx

Sunnie

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:
So, Noirin went running to Marcus for back-up, AGAIN? I thougth she was a strong woman who doesn't need back up.

She doesnt want complements off him , she doesnt want him to be anything but a matey mate, but she wants him to act like a protective boyfriend when she gets into a frenzy.Hmmmm

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Originally posted by wandawitch:

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Originally posted by swg:

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Siavash told Noirin that he THOUGHT that some people in the house thought she was a "rabbit" jumping from group to group.

She insisted he tell her who. He was very reluctant but eventually said he THOUGHT Karly and Kris.

Was that even on LF? Because Siavash said he did NOT mention either Kris or Karly when he was in the bed at around 3:30am

Siavash is a trouble maker. He THOUGHT Karly and Kris but what was his evidence.He shouldn't have mentioned anyone's name if he had no proof.

Wanda, you probably know I have been defending Noirin on here, and I still think some peoples opinions of her pre last night, was incredibly harsh and unfair... BUT.. I watched the livefeed and I was horrified by her behavior and reaction, which by the way was drink induced (no excuse)

I truely feel Siavash was looking out for her, warning her about some of the stuff he has been hearing about her jumping from camp to camp... he was warning her as a friend... she completely went off on one... if you remember she has been in bad form (could be hormones)and all she needed was an excuse to lose the head... and boy did she do that...

I cannot defend her behavior, she was shouting over Siavash when he tried to explain where he was coming from, he meant no malice at all... she has surely lost the one person in that house that did actually like her for her ( and not her body) I don't think she can come back from this, if she is up she will go...

Her bad language was unbelievable, effing every second word.. not a classy lady I have to say, and I am disappointed

I really think she is not as bad as fm's say she is ie conniving and manipulative but she was disgraceful and bullheaded last night and would not listen to reason...

Mornin Scotty

Good post Mollie

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Originally posted by Mollie:
Mornin Scotty

Morning Mollie

I have just done a long post on this in the official LUT thread. My thoughts are that Noirin stirred things too much. I feel that she should have taken on board what Siavash told her and brought it up in a round about way with Kris and Karly and judged from their reactions whether they had said something or not. Personally I have observed that Lisa and Karly don't like it when Noirin spends time with Marcus, Siavash and Fredddie and can well believe Siavash's observation.
How thick is Noirin? If you ask people outright if they said something bad about you, they will say no ! She has gained nothing by being so open. Karly in particular looked very guilty to me. They may not have used the word 'rabbit' about her but obviously siavash has overheard something along those lines from members of Lisa's gang. This argument will polarise things even more in there!

That woman should'nt be allowed drink....

Siavash was stirring though, from the C4 site:

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Siavash, Marcus and Halfwit told Noirin to be careful as members of the other group had been calling her a 'rabbit', saying she jumped from group to group.

So he told her that other people had been calling her a rabbit, NOT he thinks other people think she is a rabbit

Later...

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Noirin called Siavash a liar as it unfolded that it was just what he thought, not what someone said.

So it looks like, while Noirin's reaction was completely OTT, she was in the right - if the C4 site is to be believed. Siavash told her someone SAID something, when in fact it was really what he THOUGHT, not her twisting things, just Siavash saying it wrong or stirring on purpose

I have strangely mixed up feelings about the whole thing.

Obviously we don't know if Karly and Kris did say that, and we don't yet know if Siavash actually said that they said it, or said that he thought they thought it.

If Siavash did hear them say it, then telling Noirin could be seen as admirable, but if he thought they thought it, then really that is a bit shit stirring, whether you like them or not!

Quite frankly, I think too many people in there give Noirin credit for being intelligent and the way she discusses things and explains things, suggests to me that she's quite thick really, with no listening skills and a hot temper.

Whether she is right or wrong, she still manages to make me hate her more, each time!

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Originally posted by Blizzie:
I have strangely mixed up feelings about the whole thing.

Obviously we don't know if Karly and Kris did say that, and we don't yet know if Siavash actually said that they said it, or said that he thought they thought it.

If Siavash did hear them say it, then telling Noirin could be seen as admirable, but if he thought they thought it, then really that is a bit shit stirring, whether you like them or not!

Quite frankly, I think too many people in there give Noirin credit for being intelligent and the way she discusses things and explains things, suggests to me that she's quite thick really, with no listening skills and a hot temper.

Whether she is right or wrong, she still manages to make me hate her more, each time!

I didn't see the row, but agree with that

Excellent precis Scotty. The ironic thing about Noirins' reaction was that it showed her precisely doing what Siavash warned her about.
Lisa surprised me too by not, yet, using it as a tool to attack Siavash and Freddie putting foul mouthed Karly in her place was something I'd been hoping for for weeks.
It looks like Noirin is the big loser here as she was looking for a reason to get closer to Kris, probably because she thinks either Dogface or Marcus is going but she's simply proved to both groups how untrustworthy she is.

I think having that make-over has given our Freddy new found confidence!

OooH Thanks for that Scotty. I'll look forward to the HL show now

I loved the way Freddy stood up for Siavash, telling Noirin that he would not 'Shut the eff up'. It's about time someone told her.

As for what started the row, as far as we know it was presumption all round, maybe we will see the truthof it on the HLs, maybe not.

I'm with Blizzie on this one, whether or not Norin was right, I simply dislike her more now

I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Excellent precis Scotty. The ironic thing about Noirins' reaction was that it showed her precisely doing what Siavash warned her about.
Lisa surprised me too by not, yet, using it as a tool to attack Siavash and Freddie putting foul mouthed Karly in her place was something I'd been hoping for for weeks.
It looks like Noirin is the big loser here as she was looking for a reason to get closer to Kris, probably because she thinks either Dogface or Marcus is going but she's simply proved to both groups how untrustworthy she is.

Great observation captain

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Originally posted by angelicarwen:
OooH Thanks for that Scotty. I'll look forward to the HL show now

I just hope it`s not over edited angel.

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Excellent precis Scotty. The ironic thing about Noirins' reaction was that it showed her precisely doing what Siavash warned her about.
Lisa surprised me too by not, yet, using it as a tool to attack Siavash and Freddie putting foul mouthed Karly in her place was something I'd been hoping for for weeks.
It looks like Noirin is the big loser here as she was looking for a reason to get closer to Kris, probably because she thinks either Dogface or Marcus is going but she's simply proved to both groups how untrustworthy she is.

Great observation captain

i thought he was spot on to .

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

Don't know about arguing like a man, l find her Shrewish and fish wife like. With a mouth like a sewer.

Well well well. Another storm in a teacup. Hardly 'spitgate' though is it?

She has been ripping marcus apart and lo and behold she went running to him

I am so glad he said what he did

Marcus so no push over a few days ago he would have backed her to the hilt

looks like norin has burned her bridges with just about everyone

bound to happen the way she has played the lot of them looks like it has come back and bit her on the bum

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

I agree Twee, just goes to show what a good friend Freddie is... This will endear him to the public even more...

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Originally posted by Lister_of_Smeg:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by captain marbles:
Excellent precis Scotty. The ironic thing about Noirins' reaction was that it showed her precisely doing what Siavash warned her about.
Lisa surprised me too by not, yet, using it as a tool to attack Siavash and Freddie putting foul mouthed Karly in her place was something I'd been hoping for for weeks.
It looks like Noirin is the big loser here as she was looking for a reason to get closer to Kris, probably because she thinks either Dogface or Marcus is going but she's simply proved to both groups how untrustworthy she is.

Great observation captain

i thought he was spot on to .

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Originally posted by Heartache:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

Don't know about arguing like a man, l find her Shrewish and fish wife like. With a mouth like a sewer.

when I say she argues like a man what I mean is that she loses her femininity in the process, with her Lee Enfield approach to delivery. Rat a tat rat a tat .... on a never ending repeat.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

I agree Twee, just goes to show what a good friend Freddie is... This will endear him to the public even more...

Absolutely! He`s his own man and stands up for fairness, whether he`s outnumbered or not...

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

I agree with that, the only thing I will say is that Noirin asked Freddy at some stage what his take was, he started explaining, but when she didn't hear what she wanted she told him to shut up and stop going on the bandwaggon. What a hypocrite. Fortunately by then Freddie was in full swing and gave with both barrels.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

I agree with that, the only thing I will say is that Noirin asked Freddy at some stage what his take was, he started explaining, but when she didn't hear what she wanted she told him to shut up and stop going on the bandwaggon. What a hypocrite. Fortunately by then Freddie was in full swing and gave with both barrels.

Yes she didn`t expect that. She kept shouting but he carried on.

She told him to STFU. Her language was atrocious all night.

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

I agree Twee, just goes to show what a good friend Freddie is... This will endear him to the public even more...

It will PCE. In the past, the others have been afraid to defend Freddie else their position in the house could have been in jeopardy, by risking nomination. There comes a time when you have to stand up and be counted and, of course by his actions, Freddie wasn't afraid of the calculations, nor the flak that comes with defending someone. His actions proved a complete lack of nous in the bigger picture of gameplaying that is prevalent in the house at the minute. If he wins the game, it will be fair and square and without losing his own belief system.

Freddie does not need to suck up to anyone in there because he's up for eviction every week regardless of what he does/says.

He has the freedom to speak his mind without fear of the consequences.

At least we see the real Freddie

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Originally posted by Towno :
Freddie does not need to suck up to anyone in there because he's up for eviction every week regardless of what he does/says.

He has the freedom to speak his mind without fear of the consequences.

At least we see the real Freddie

That really is a very good point.

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

I agree with that, the only thing I will say is that Noirin asked Freddy at some stage what his take was, he started explaining, but when she didn't hear what she wanted she told him to shut up and stop going on the bandwaggon. What a hypocrite. Fortunately by then Freddie was in full swing and gave with both barrels.

Yes she didn`t expect that. She kept shouting but he carried on.

She told him to STFU. Her language was atrocious all night.

in Noirin land, you are either for her or against her. There is no grey area. Freddie has pinned his colours to the mast now and there is no turning back. But he was wrong to get involved imo. It wasn't his argument.

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

I agree with that, the only thing I will say is that Noirin asked Freddy at some stage what his take was, he started explaining, but when she didn't hear what she wanted she told him to shut up and stop going on the bandwaggon. What a hypocrite. Fortunately by then Freddie was in full swing and gave with both barrels.

Yes she didn`t expect that. She kept shouting but he carried on.

She told him to STFU. Her language was atrocious all night.

in Noirin land, you are either for her or against her. There is no grey area. Freddie has pinned his colours to the mast now and there is no turning back. But he was wrong to get involved imo. It wasn't his argument.

But arent we happy he got involved? Im tired of the sitting on the fence to avoid nominations.. Someone had to put her in her place and he did it without swearing and cursing... He reminds me of Dave Cameron lol

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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by cologne1:

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Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
I am absolutely miffed because my bluddy video did not tape the live feed last night, so I missed the whole bluddy thing. Thank you for the link though Scotty, it makes for interesting viewing. Noirin was strident and shrill, and proved once again that she argues like a man. I also felt sorry for her up to a point because the link stalled at a certain point, buffering, and I noticed her eyes were very sad. She was under attack and she didn't like it.

Having said that, Freddie put up a performance worthy of an Oscar. The only problem I have with that is that no one defended Freddie when he was being attacked on numerous occasions in the past. He was left to sink or swim on his own. Whilst I admire his loyalty to Siavash, he should have kept out of it and allowed Siavash to sort it out on his own. Loyalty is a two-way thing, or it doesn't work.

I agree with that, the only thing I will say is that Noirin asked Freddy at some stage what his take was, he started explaining, but when she didn't hear what she wanted she told him to shut up and stop going on the bandwaggon. What a hypocrite. Fortunately by then Freddie was in full swing and gave with both barrels.

Yes she didn`t expect that. She kept shouting but he carried on.

She told him to STFU. Her language was atrocious all night.

in Noirin land, you are either for her or against her. There is no grey area. Freddie has pinned his colours to the mast now and there is no turning back. But he was wrong to get involved imo. It wasn't his argument.

But arent we happy he got involved? Im tired of the sitting on the fence to avoid nominations.. Someone had to put her in her place and he did it without swearing and cursing... He reminds me of Dave Cameron lol

Hiya PCE

Hiya LMS... Hope you are ok after yesterday....