I never saw it .... what did she say Syd? In what way ummmmmmm???

She sounded really bitter.....I can't recount exactly what she said, but it was not in a normal BB friendly way.....sorry Baz, but I was quite shocked.....

Oh Mind you, given what we have seen and heard of the family so far.....

i didnt watch it either, but as far im concerned she a natsy piece of work just like jem spiteful.

She said she initially liked Aaron then went off him over his treatment of Rebeckah, and some other things I can't remember but all of which preceeded her letter to Faye where she said hello to Aaron.

Didn't add up.

loving aarons brother as much as him! 
"fays welcome at his house.......................as long as she doesnt bring her sister.

(DS)

She certainly came across like that on the noms video JAF..

Vanessa said to her

He's not using her for airtime he likes her, they wont last but its a legitimate stab at a relationship.She should trust herself, she's not a baby, why should she have to do what her sister tells her what to do.What kind of a mother goes lumbering in & starts.......I would never do that to my girls, I would never get the boyfriend turfed out if one of my kids really liked the guy.Stop describing herself as a d!ckhead because people start to believe it

( taken form DS)

Aarons brother David said "I wouldnt spit in her tea"

 She said that to Willisearlier - not to the mum. I think  

haha well done david 

 Good for her....

Cheers Vevet

Will have to watch on demand to clarify what I heard...

Well once again it appears that I am listening to another show,

She did not sound at all bitter to me - she sounded like a concerned mother. She said that Faye had been through a lot in her life which was not known publicly.She sounded to me like a Mum defending her daughter.

Maybe it wasn't the right thing to do in many people's eyes but I do not think for one minute either Faye or Aaron have deep feelings for each other. They are both far too self obsessed.

Did any of you not see how awkward they were with each other last night?Indeed how awkward they always are with each other?

Vanessa is wrong - he does not like her at all. The pair of them are like a couple who are on the verge of separating not  forging a bond.

Hmmmmmmmm, it's very subjective.  Is Faye's mum (and sister) over protective, or simply controlling?  I think it's 50-50 to be honest.  But I can say that there is going to have to be a LOT of soul searching and family talking if Faye and Aaron ARE to continue on the outside, because Faye's mum DOES NOT LIKE AARON.  (And Aaron's brother DOES NOT LIKE JEM LOL!)   Let's face it, Faye and Jem's judgement of Aaron is quite unfair because they don't know him and the mother sees only one hour a day of highlights...

Then again, Aaron's brother has made up his mind about Jem withut really knowing her, stating 'Faye can come to my house as long as she doesnt bring her sister!'   Which is a bit unfair...as Jem did try and talk to Aaron. But I think Aaron's brother is mad at how Aaron is being portrayed as the bad guy, when he and Faye have an equal share in the problems in their relationship. 

From what I can see, Jem AND her mother seem to have an issue with Aaron being EXACTLY like a previous boyfriend Faye had....and I suspect (rather strongly) that this is why they dislike him, and no matter what he does, they will always dislike him...I actually think this relationship is doomed to be honest...

At the end of the day Faye is a grown woman and her mum needs to back off IMO (and Jem too,) and let her get on with what she needs or wants to do... That said, I do think that her and Aaron are not going to last long because the age gap is too big, Faye is too young and immature, and let's face it, they have been 'dating' for a few weeks and argued more times than most couples agrue in a year.  I really can't see that they are suited at all in any way. 

And this, coupled with the 'family clashing' is going to make it hard for them to survive as a couple... If they had an amazing relationship and were madly in love, then the families bickering and 'not getting on' wouldn't matter, but theirs is not a really passionate and deep relationship is it, let's face it...

here is a rough rundown of the conversation on Big Brothers bit on the side...

Emma Willis talking to Chrissie (Jem and Faye's mum) and Vanessa Feltz got involved...

Emma Willis:  Hi Chrissie...Are you surprised at the drama your nominations caused?

Chrissie:  Yes I am actually, because the other mothers could see Aaron for what he is and I am surprised that VANESSA couldn't see it.  She has got 2 daughters, how would she like THEM plagued like my daughter?

Vanessa:: No she isn't being plagued, she is enjoying it

Chrissie: No she ISN'T Vanessa you don't know her like I do! (Audience gasped!  You don't know Faye's past ... she has had her heart broken before, by a man EXACTLY the same as Aaron...and Jemma knows it.  It's a shame really because I actually did like Aaron, but after the way he was with maisy and tom and everone else, even rebeckah ; stabbing her in the back..I dislike him now....  he is manipulative ..... and the public are missing it because he is so softly spoken and charming

Emma:

eyebrows raised  OK Chrissie, JAY said "you probably wouldn't be welcome for tea Aaron", So would he Chrissie?

Chrissie: I could TRY and have tea with him, and reason with him, but look at the way that Jemma tried to but he didn't wanna know because Jemma is a strong woman.

Emma:  Are you going to be prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt?

Chrissie:  Of course I will give him the benefit of the doubt ; we are caring loving people and my I object to the way my daughter is being treated...her and Jem are trusting loving giving girls. Faye has had to put up with a lot in life that people don't know about.  And as usual Aaron didn't go to her when she was upset..., he thought of himself and went out to the garden.

Emma: Thanks for talking to us Chrissie

Seems to me that the mother just detests Aaron because he reminds her so much of Faye's ex... Thing is, as I said, they are only seeing 1 hour a day of the 24 hours of the day..so it's an unfair judgement,,,IMO.

Another thing.... I would love to know what Faye has 'been through.'  Her and Jem keep mentioning this.  What could she have been through?  let's face it, most people have been through shit in life... if her mum is going to keep parping on about it, tell us what the hell it is!

THEN Emma had a convo with Aaron's brother:

Emma: Thanks for joining us

Aarons brother:  You're welcome

Emma: so is Aaron going to walk?

Aaron's brother: No, he won't walk he is strong he will get over this, although he is quite affected by it.

Emma: So were 5 nominations justified?  I am guessing you think not...

Aarons brother:  NO!, Lots of the parents are blaming unrest in MY brother when JEM has caused it all (audience cheers) Thing is, Faye and Aaron are now arguing more coz of her. she is a shit stirrer and needs to go...(Big cheers from the audience...)

Emma:  Is aaron normally someone who attracts drama?

Aaron's brother: No he doesn't like the drama. The relationship is real - he does like her. and he is suffering, but she is like 'the victim'

Emma: so can Faye come to YOUR house?

Aaron's brother:  Faye is welcome yes, but as long as she does not bring her sister.

So as i said, it's quite subjective... i think Faye's family ARE a cross between controlling and worried, but they have already made up their minds about Aaron and I believe no matter what he does, they will dislike him.  And I now believe Aaron's family will probably never get on with Faye's, and it's not like Aaron and Faye have an amazing enough relationship to withstand all this...I doubt the relationship will last to be honest... 

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Chrissie: Yes I am actually, because the other mothers could see Aaron for what he is and I am surprised that VANESSA couldn't see it.  She has got 2 daughters, how would she like THEM plagued like my daughter?

Exactly ... I have 2 daughters and I completely agree with Chrissie .... It actually relieves me to know that others see straight through him too ..... I can only assume that the majority of posters over on DS are very young as they all seem totally blind to his manipulative ways & the  condescending way he treats Faye. People should be able to see Faye is a needy 19 yr old who lacks self confidence ..... Someone like Aaron is the very last thing she needs. I totally agree with Fayes mum & her sister Jemma.

Maybe Faye's mum is concerned... but I do think she hates Aaron just because he is like one of Faye's exes, and Faye should be allowed to make her own decisions... Then again, I think at the end of the day, that Aaron and Faye are really not suited at all... it's just a physical thing I think.  They seem so awkward together sometimes, and seem to have NOTHING in common (from what I have seen...)  I think they will split soon after BB finishes...  She is waaaaay too young and immature, and he is a bit of a old man isn't he?  I mean, why ARE they together LOL! 

That said, I have to say I am not fond of how Faye's mom has totally run Aaron into the ground and is acting like Faye is 100% the victim.. It is 50-50 with them imo... and I don't think Aaron is deliberately upsetting anyone..  I also think Jem is jealous of Faye and has actually ruined Faye's BB experience.

And what happened to this totally being cut off from the real world that BB used to have?  That has gone down the swannee hasn't it?  First Rebeckah came in, then bloody Jem came in after watching BB on telly, and started screwing with Faye's head, and then there was the input from the outside with the family noms...  Ridiculous...  Nobody from the outside should have been allowed to speak to ANYone in that house from the minute they went in...

how has Faye been plagued? shes loved the Aaron attention, and Fayes not 19 is she? isnt something the Palmers do lie about their ages and Fayes last b/f was a 40 year old, i see it all as excuses to get at Aaron they know hes 1 of the favs. hes in the way of 100k.

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Then again, I think at the end of the day, that Aaron and Faye are really not suited at all.

You're probably right .... If they met outside the house they would never have  got together .... I suppose in that environment you are limited to who you can turn to.

Faye should have had family support while in the house and they could sort it all when she got out. They tend to be a tad dramatic! 
Hi Justa xx  yes indeed 100k to be had, does turn some into monsters ! 

Firstly, Faye is 22 next week, so the age gap isn't really that big, and Faye isn't really too young to make her own mind up about relationships.

Seems like she has to be six years younger than the age Jem is using at any particular time! 

Secondly, what Faye's mum did was to publicly side with the big, bossy, controlling sister, humiliating, hurting and confusing the younger sister, at the same time.

It's no wonder Faye is needy and insecure, when her life is ruled by two controlling Gorgons.

I agree Blizz 

Her mother should have waited until she spoke to Faye face to face,what she did was confuse and upset her daughter (Faye) even further.