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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by luxor:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by luxor:
I blame the current government and the loony left for the rise in the BNP. .

What loony left would that be?
Not that I myself am loony, although I suspect you include me within the broad description, but we haven't had a sniff of power or influence in thirty years.

If, like you appear, to be open to debate then you are not beyond redemtion.
I speak of people like some I used to work with in my youth. There opinion was the be all and end all. I was once threatend that if I did not join their union then bad thing might happen when I was not looking.

I believe EVERYONE should have the right NOT to belong to a trades union,
providing that they then dont get ANY or the rights that the unions fought so hard to gain them, let them negotiate on their own for decent pay and working conditions and see how far THAT gets them,

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Originally posted by electric6:
*Wanders in, declares self a loony lefty*
*Rushes back out before I'm spotted*

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by electric6:
*Wanders in, declares self a loony lefty*
*Rushes back out before I'm spotted*

Jumps on leccy and snogs her.
in a nomal type way...

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
Vote SNP..problem solved.

Not bawheid Salmon!

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Originally posted by luxor:

I was already a member of another union, one that was not as miltant as theirs. So as far as I am concerned their are LUNATICS on both sides of the political spectrum.
As for unions fighting for only their members pay and conditions that would mean a two tier system, and any employer worth his salt would ensure that those not in a union would get better deal.

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by luxor:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by luxor:
I blame the current government and the loony left for the rise in the BNP. .

What loony left would that be?
Not that I myself am loony, although I suspect you include me within the broad description, but we haven't had a sniff of power or influence in thirty years.

If, like you appear, to be open to debate then you are not beyond redemtion.
I speak of people like some I used to work with in my youth. There opinion was the be all and end all. I was once threatend that if I did not join their union then bad thing might happen when I was not looking.

I believe EVERYONE should have the right NOT to belong to a trades union,
providing that they then dont get ANY or the rights that the unions fought so hard to gain them, let them negotiate on their own for decent pay and working conditions and see how far THAT gets them,

I worked in Local government ,I've been on strike four times in my working life,all of those times to protect jobs and conditions.I'm proud I did.Yes it pissed me off that those that did not strike (scabs) still got the benefits we fought for.Still spoke to them etc.
I'm retired now (early) but my back still gets up when I read stuff.

I hate it when WORKING CLASS people dont support the unions, my GOD where would we be without them?
I have never and WOULD never cross a picket line, I would starve first,

I could never do it!

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
Vote SNP..problem solved.

Not bawheid Salmon!

Bawheid? Get yer jooks up!

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I've always voted Labour,but alas not now.There is no way in hell I'd vote Tory.I've the champagne on ice when auld Maggie pops her clogs.

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
Vote SNP..problem solved.

Not bawheid Salmon!

Bawheid? Get yer jooks up!

Mr Potato heid...

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
Vote SNP..problem solved.

There is a shortage of SNP candidates in these parts.

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Originally posted by ~Orchid~:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by luxor:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by luxor:
I blame the current government and the loony left for the rise in the BNP. .

What loony left would that be?
Not that I myself am loony, although I suspect you include me within the broad description, but we haven't had a sniff of power or influence in thirty years.

If, like you appear, to be open to debate then you are not beyond redemtion.
I speak of people like some I used to work with in my youth. There opinion was the be all and end all. I was once threatend that if I did not join their union then bad thing might happen when I was not looking.

I believe EVERYONE should have the right NOT to belong to a trades union,
providing that they then dont get ANY or the rights that the unions fought so hard to gain them, let them negotiate on their own for decent pay and working conditions and see how far THAT gets them,

I worked in Local government ,I've been on strike four times in my working life,all of those times to protect jobs and conditions.I'm proud I did.Yes it pissed me off that those that did not strike (scabs) still got the benefits we fought for.Still spoke to them etc.
I'm retired now (early) but my back still gets up when I read stuff.

I hate it when WORKING CLASS people dont support the unions, my GOD where would we be without them?
I have never and WOULD never cross a picket line, I would starve first,

I could never do it!

It was a trade union who saved a friend of mine after she was accused at work of something she didn't and was immediately suspended. She was worried sick.
They told her not to attend any appointments for kangaroo court the work place set up for her attend and that she would attend with her union representative at a time specified by her. All went well and they gave her back her job. It is always useful to be in a union.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
Vote SNP..problem solved.

Not bawheid Salmon!

Bawheid? Get yer jooks up!

Mr Potato heid...

Surely Benitoheid.

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Originally posted by luxor:


I was already a member of another union, one that was not as miltant as theirs. So as far as I am concerned their are LUNATICS on both sides of the political spectrum.
As for unions fighting for only their members pay and conditions that would mean a two tier I will never forgetsystem, and any employer worth his salt would ensure that those not in a union would get better deal.

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Originally posted by jonono:
If i disagree with anything in this thread and anyone else concurs will we be accused of 'ganging up'?

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by Scotty:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by Scotty:
Vote SNP..problem solved.

Not bawheid Salmon!

Bawheid? Get yer jooks up!

Mr Potato heid...

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by luxor:

I was already a member of another union, one that was not as miltant as theirs. So as far as I am concerned their are LUNATICS on both sides of the political spectrum.
As for unions fighting for only their members pay and conditions that would mean a two tier system, and any employer worth his salt would ensure that those not in a union would get better deal.

As I recall, although it's years since I was an activist, if you are already a member of one union then according to the Bridlington agreement you can't be forced to join a different one.

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Originally posted by jonono:
If i disagree with anything in this thread and anyone else concurs will we be accused of 'ganging up'?

Of course! Whose gang am I in, btw? It's so hard to keep track!

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Originally posted by luxor:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by luxor:

I was already a member of another union, one that was not as miltant as theirs. So as far as I am concerned their are LUNATICS on both sides of the political spectrum.
As for unions fighting for only their members pay and conditions that would mean a two tier system, and any employer worth his salt would ensure that those not in a union would get better deal.

As I recall, although it's years since I was an activist, if you are already a member of one union then according to the Bridlington agreement you can't be forced to join a different one.

The people I was dealing with were not the type who would know anything about agreements. They needed numbers for their union and they were not bothered how they got them.

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Originally posted by jonono:

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Originally posted by Suzi-Q:

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Originally posted by jonono:
If i disagree with anything in this thread and anyone else concurs will we be accused of 'ganging up'?

Of course! Whose gang am I in, btw? It's so hard to keep track!

depends on yr viewpoint, if you agree with me you'll be in my clique.

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by luxor:

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Originally posted by Garage Joe:

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Originally posted by luxor:

I was already a member of another union, one that was not as miltant as theirs. So as far as I am concerned their are LUNATICS on both sides of the political spectrum.
As for unions fighting for only their members pay and conditions that would mean a two tier system, and any employer worth his salt would ensure that those not in a union would get better deal.

As I recall, although it's years since I was an activist, if you are already a member of one union then according to the Bridlington agreement you can't be forced to join a different one.

The people I was dealing with were not the type who would know anything about agreements. They needed numbers for their union and they were not bothered how they got them.

Well I am surprised. The reason I knowe about this is that my Dad was the only member of his Union within a rather militant bunch. But the employer recognised both unions.

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Originally posted by jonono:
of course there is wine in the clique!! We are wine addled hags, hell bent on goading strangers.

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by luxor:


I was already a member of another union, one that was not as miltant as theirs. So as far as I am concerned their are LUNATICS on both sides of the political spectrum.
As for unions fighting for only their members pay and conditions that would mean a two tier I will never forgetsystem, and any employer worth his salt would ensure that those not in a union would get better deal.

ONLY untill such a time that the MAJORITY were non union,

I remember starting work in a factory once and I casualy asked one of my work mates "so is there a union here then" cause I wouldve joined it if there had been,
he looked shocked and quickly looked around, before sayin "NOOOO my god dont let HIM (the boss) hear you say that or you will be gone"
I didnt work there long, he heard I been asking about unions so he had to "let me go" and as this was just after Thatcher (sorry for the foul lanugage) had knobbled the unions and changed the employment laws, so there was nowt I could do about it, he didnt even have to give a reason for my sacking as I had only worked there a month or two,

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I have never and WOULD never cross a picket line, I would starve first,

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Originally posted by Scotty:

Vote SNP..problem solved.

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I have never and WOULD never cross a picket line, I would starve first,

i'd happily dance a jig across any picket line, when i was much much younger and starting out in life i was ordered to join a union where i was working, i was sacked because i refused to join and no way was i prepared to pay union dues to help fund the labour party since then my contempt for the unions hasnt abaited.

you only have to look at the whineing socalists blamming maggie for all the wrongs in the world to see just how bitter and twisted they are, if it wasnt for the unions turning the uk into the sick man of europe we wouldnt have needed a thatcher to help put us back on track, sadly many more people then lost their jobs too but make no mistake the unions were to blame not the tories.

and now we have the same socialists with the same old rhetoric seeing facists everywhere without a hint of reality in their claims, they are just so deluded if they think the bnp could take power in the uk anymore than they could, the european elections are totaly different to normal uk elections in that they use pr, pr is an abject failure as it gives groups like the bnp a hint of power without them achieving any at all, even if the bnp won EVERY seat in the uk eu elections it still wouldnt make the slightest difference since eu law is made by unelected bodies not the mep's, so its perfectly safe to vote bnp as a protest vote in the eu elections as long as you dont carry that support over to uk council or national elections.

its not the bnp in europe people should worry about but those who are persuing hitlers dream of a european superstate something the bnp are against, at home, the bnp have little to no chance of ever getting more than a few seats so all the false wailing and nashing of teeth by the left is just smoke and mirrors.

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I'd rather cut me both legs off than cross a picket line,but then that's me.....

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I'd rather cut me both legs off than cross a picket line,but then that's me.....

united we stand

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I'd rather cut me both legs off than cross a picket line,but then that's me.....

united we stand

It would never happen comrade!"

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

I have never and WOULD never cross a picket line, I would starve first,

i'd happily dance a jig across any picket line, when i was much much younger and starting out in life i was ordered to join a union where i was working, i was sacked because i refused to join and no way was i prepared to pay union dues to help fund the labour party since then my contempt for the unions hasnt abaited.

you only have to look at the whineing socalists blamming maggie for all the wrongs in the world to see just how bitter and twisted they are, if it wasnt for the unions turning the uk into the sick man of europe we wouldnt have needed a thatcher to help put us back on track, sadly many more people then lost their jobs too but make no mistake the unions were to blame not the tories.

and now we have the same socialists with the same old rhetoric seeing facists everywhere without a hint of reality in their claims, they are just so deluded if they think the bnp could take power in the uk anymore than they could, the european elections are totaly different to normal uk elections in that they use pr, pr is an abject failure as it gives groups like the bnp a hint of power without them achieving any at all, even if the bnp won EVERY seat in the uk eu elections it still wouldnt make the slightest difference since eu law is made by unelected bodies not the mep's, so its perfectly safe to vote bnp as a protest vote in the eu elections as long as you dont carry that support over to uk council or national elections.

its not the bnp in europe people should worry about but those who are persuing hitlers dream of a european superstate something the bnp are against, at home, the bnp have little to no chance of ever getting more than a few seats so all the false wailing and nashing of teeth by the left is just smoke and mirrors.

s funny init how we all have different lives n how that has an affect on the way we think,

see ME I will be eternaly grateful to the unions, and to the socialists for giving me a poor bloke from a poor family the chance to have at least SOME employment rights, so that the bosses cant/couldnt treat me as no more than cattle,and that I dont need to be rich to get my broken leg fixed etc,
and I will for ever despise Thatcher and all she stands for,
I remeber her refering to the hard working men and women of ths country as the enemy within,
I have recently moved from Stoke on Trent where they have something like 9 BNP councilors on the local council, and I have fond memories of the skinheaded PHUCKS that support em threatning to kick my head in cause I told em where to shove their leaflets,

you say electing them in eu elections "as a protest" wouldnt make any difference, well it would make ME sick to my stomache for a start if I ever put an X next to one of their names,

as for a European superstate, I personaly would have no problem with that at all, I would be quite willing to call my self a european rather than British or English,
I think it WILL happen sooner or later anyway its evoloution,
at one time village fought village city fought city, county fought county, it would lessen the chances of another european war,
and as the EU seems to be left of centre I dont think for one second its what Adolf had in mind,

smoke n mirrors? perhaps, but I aint willing to give em ONE INCH its not worth the risk, IMO

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I'd rather cut me both legs off than cross a picket line,but then that's me.....

united we stand

It would never happen comrade!"

haha "come the revolution comrade they will all be up against a wall, blind fold last fag n bop bop bop"
Citizen Smith

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:

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Originally posted by old hippy guy:

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Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I'd rather cut me both legs off than cross a picket line,but then that's me.....

united we stand

It would never happen comrade!"

haha "come the revolution comrade they will all be up against a wall, blind fold last fag n bop bop bop"
Citizen Smith

IndeeD we are wasted on here....