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Comrade Ogilvy

Anyone else feel stuck in the middle of it ?

Many are concerned (rightly so imo) that the BNP seem to be gaining in popularity due to the current political climate.

And who is responsible for said climate ?

Well in the 12 years reign of New Labour we've seen our freedoms diminish at an alarming rate, hard won freedoms paid for by the blood of our ancestors.

http://video.google.com/google...218544&hl=en&fs=true"

Central database, I.D. cards ??!!

Well, is having these systems in place really a move in the right direction ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

BNP is a ridiculous direction to take but that established.. What VALID alternatives ?, any other party will no doubt continue down the same path, despite what they might promise or how good they are at kissing babies. What value does a politicians promise hold ?

Is anyone else concerned about the future, no matter who's in the driving seat ?

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Russell teh Muscle (Guest)

Are you here to stay?

5/25/0910:01 AM

~Orchid~Member

Just because of the political climate, that is no excuse to vote in Nazi's. Vote 'Green' or something or stay at home.

5/25/0910:02 AM

HollygolightlyMember

quote:
Originally posted by Russell teh Muscle:
Are you here to stay?

Shall I pass you the wooden spoon Rus?

5/25/0910:02 AM

~Orchid~Member

quote:
Originally posted by Russell teh Muscle:
Are you here to stay?

5/25/0910:03 AM

Russell teh Muscle (Guest)

quote:
Originally posted by Hollygolightly:
quote:
Originally posted by Russell teh Muscle:
Are you here to stay?

Shall I pass you the wooden spoon Rus?

*snigger*

5/25/0910:03 AM

Comrade OgilvyMember

quote:
Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Just because of the political climate, that is no excuse to vote in Nazi's. Vote 'Green' or something or stay at home.

Of course it's not but my point is can we really trust any of them ?

5/25/0910:04 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

I shall vote Green,anyone who thinks that a vote for the BNP is a "protest" vote are sadly lacking brain cells.

5/25/0910:04 AM

Former Member

BNP's never gonna happen

Having said that, the remaining options aren't much cop either........from now on, voter apathy can be anticipated for some time to come.

5/25/0910:04 AM

~Orchid~Member

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
quote:
Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Just because of the political climate, that is no excuse to vote in Nazi's. Vote 'Green' or something or stay at home.

Of course it's not but my point is can we really trust any of them ?

Of course we can't. They are a bunch of scheming, self-serving liars as the expenses row has revealed. But either you vote for a fringe party or don't vote at all. I don't really see what voting for the BNP is going to do except cause political and social uproar.

5/25/0910:06 AM

Dame_Ann_AverageMember VIP10 years

quote:
Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Just because of the political climate, that is no excuse to vote in Nazi's. Vote 'Green' or something or stay at home.

Exactly !

5/25/0910:08 AM

TiGiMember

De ja Vu

5/25/0910:10 AM

mary_beeMember

Personally, I'd rather see any party win than the BNP.

5/25/0910:13 AM

Russell teh Muscle (Guest)

RUSS FOR PRIME MINISTER!!!11!!!

5/25/0910:14 AM

HyacinthBMember

quote:
Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Just because of the political climate, that is no excuse to vote in Nazi's. Vote 'Green' or something or stay at home.

I always vote but, in the European Elections on 4th June, I am registering a protest vote as I am definitely not voting for one of the three major parties.

5/25/0910:15 AM

Former Member

I mean, seriously, who the hell would willingly vote BNP? Other than, perhaps, Trisha/Jeremy Kyle show wannabe types. Thankfully, these truculent & resentful "I know me rights!

" people are in a very miniscule voting minority.

5/25/0910:15 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

Just my own personal point of view but I always always always vote because women in this country suffered for the right for me to have that vote and I would feel I had betrayed them if I didn't bother.

5/25/0910:16 AM

Garage JoeMember

I could handle Heritage Labour or Conservative. Perhaps one of 'em could make a transfer bid for dancing Vince Cable.
Both parties would have sufficient experience and a working philosophy. Any other vote would be wasted in my opinion, as anyone who has studied late C19th Russian politics would agree.

5/25/0910:18 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

I've always voted green in the European elections.I may do the same when Michael Martin "retires".He's my MP.

5/25/0910:19 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

I've always voted Labour,but alas not now.There is no way in hell I'd vote Tory.I've the champagne on ice when auld Maggie pops her clogs.

5/25/0910:21 AM

DirtyprettygirlthingMember

I usually give political or religeous threads a wide wide berth.... but here goes.... my concerns...

..with the current level of public outrage at our politicians, resulting in a more widespread voter apathy than I have ever previously known, I am really quite worried about the BNP.

They are loving the desperation the credit crunch has created and all these recent corrupt MP reports and resulting public anger... and on forums and in RL I have been really really shocked at the level of support the BNP seem to be getting.

I think its important to still vote to ensure the BNP don't end up being the real winners in all this, and end up sneaking in the back door and gaining power in the EU or our parliament.

And with that, I am now scarpering out of this thread and into something way more shallow and safe!

(welcome back OP xx)

5/25/0910:22 AM

mary_beeMember

quote:
Originally posted by Deegs:
I mean, seriously, who the hell would willingly vote BNP? Other than, perhaps, Trisha/Jeremy Kyle show wannabe types. Thankfully, these truculent & resentful "I know me rights! " people are in a very miniscule voting minority.

Sadly, I know of a lot of support in my area.

5/25/0910:23 AM

DirtyprettygirlthingMember

quote:
Originally posted by mary_bee:
quote:
Originally posted by Deegs:
I mean, seriously, who the hell would willingly vote BNP? Other than, perhaps, Trisha/Jeremy Kyle show wannabe types. Thankfully, these truculent & resentful "I know me rights! " people are in a very miniscule voting minority.

Sadly, I know of a lot of support in my area.

Its true. And it seems that its no longer something to keep a secret... BNP supporters seem to be supporting them openly and with pride!

5/25/0910:24 AM

TiGiMember

quote:
Originally posted by mary_bee:
quote:
Originally posted by Deegs:
I mean, seriously, who the hell would willingly vote BNP? Other than, perhaps, Trisha/Jeremy Kyle show wannabe types. Thankfully, these truculent & resentful "I know me rights! " people are in a very miniscule voting minority.

Same here, I noticed today only 2 doors down had Vote BNP posters in their front window, not surprised to be honest.
Sadly, I know of a lot of support in my area.

5/25/0910:25 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

Dangerous times.Thst's why we all need to vote.If we sit back and do bugger all it lets these loonys in.

5/25/0910:26 AM

Comrade OgilvyMember

quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I shall vote Green,anyone who thinks that a vote for the BNP is a "protest" vote are sadly lacking brain cells.

That's a given.

Point is though is there any way out ?

All the major parties have a fascist agenda.

Who's to say the greens wouldn't start to 'compromise' if they were to gain more power ?, power which corporations can buy.

5/25/0910:26 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I've always voted Labour,but alas not now.There is no way in hell I'd vote Tory.I've the champagne on ice when auld Maggie pops her clogs.

It is very sad to me that you can still hold so much hatred for one person when so much damage has been done to us all by the Labour government since its been in charge.

5/25/0910:27 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by Comrade Ogilvy:
quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I shall vote Green,anyone who thinks that a vote for the BNP is a "protest" vote are sadly lacking brain cells.

That's a given.

Point is though is there any way out ?

All the major parties have a fascist agenda.

Who's to say the greens wouldn't start to 'compromise' if they were to gain more power ?, power which corporations can buy.

Now then, now then....Wiki is as reliable a source of "knowledge" as my big left toe.

5/25/0910:27 AM

~Orchid~Member

quote:
Originally posted by Dirtyprettygirlthing:
quote:
Originally posted by mary_bee:
quote:
Originally posted by Deegs:
I mean, seriously, who the hell would willingly vote BNP? Other than, perhaps, Trisha/Jeremy Kyle show wannabe types. Thankfully, these truculent & resentful "I know me rights! " people are in a very miniscule voting minority.

Sadly, I know of a lot of support in my area.

Its true. And it seems that its no longer something to keep a secret... BNP supporters seem to be supporting them openly and with pride!

A friend of mine lives in North East, England and said they were surprised by the support the BNP command there. People are openly BNP and even boast about it on Facebook accounts.

5/25/0910:29 AM

mary_beeMember

quote:
Originally posted by TiGi:
quote:
Originally posted by mary_bee:
quote:
Originally posted by Deegs:
I mean, seriously, who the hell would willingly vote BNP? Other than, perhaps, Trisha/Jeremy Kyle show wannabe types. Thankfully, these truculent & resentful "I know me rights! " people are in a very miniscule voting minority.

Same here, I noticed today only 2 doors down had Vote BNP posters in their front window, not surprised to be honest.
Sadly, I know of a lot of support in my area.

A lot of people around here support it because they believe that the BNP will bring back fox hunting, and that's basically their livelihood.

Where one of my friends works, almost everyone there is voting for them

There's also a hell of a lot of young people, even younger than me, who openly support the BNP. But when questioned about their beliefs they've NO idea what they stand for, they just say they agree with them because 'mummy and daddy do', which is incredibly worrying.

5/25/0910:29 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I've always voted Labour,but alas not now.There is no way in hell I'd vote Tory.I've the champagne on ice when auld Maggie pops her clogs.

It is very sad to me that you can still hold so much hatred for one person when so much damage has been done to us all by the Labour government since its been in charge.

She fecked us up in Scotland,she had no MP's up here to lose,so she brought in the poll tax a year before the rest of the country,as an "Experiment" etc.Decimated the big industries up here,she is loathed.I make no apology for hating her or her legacy.

5/25/0910:30 AM

Garage JoeMember

quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I've always voted Labour,but alas not now.There is no way in hell I'd vote Tory.I've the champagne on ice when auld Maggie pops her clogs.

It is very sad to me that you can still hold so much hatred for one person when so much damage has been done to us all by the Labour government since its been in charge.

I tend to agree. I really wince when someone says that about her. There is no point having that attitude when two so called Labour governments have continued with her crackpot market led policies.

5/25/0910:30 AM

KayteeMember 10 years

My OH has torn up his voting card, but he's daft to do so. Staying at home isn't the answer either.
I always vote, my right to do so was hard won, but I refuse to vote for the main parties, so hopefully there will be a credible independent candidate. The Monster Raving Loonies are looking more attractive by the minute.

5/25/0910:32 AM

squiggleMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I've always voted Labour,but alas not now.There is no way in hell I'd vote Tory.I've the champagne on ice when auld Maggie pops her clogs.

It is very sad to me that you can still hold so much hatred for one person when so much damage has been done to us all by the Labour government since its been in charge.

She fecked us up in Scotland,she had no MP's up here to lose,so she brought in the poll tax a year before the rest of the country,as an "Experiment" etc.Decimated the big industries up here,she is loathed.I make no apology for hating her or her legacy.

And has the Labour government been good for you and your area?

5/25/0910:32 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by Garage Joe:
quote:
Originally posted by squiggle:
quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I've always voted Labour,but alas not now.There is no way in hell I'd vote Tory.I've the champagne on ice when auld Maggie pops her clogs.

It is very sad to me that you can still hold so much hatred for one person when so much damage has been done to us all by the Labour government since its been in charge.

I tend to agree. I really wince when someone says that about her. There is no point having that attitude when two so called Labour governments have continued with her crackpot market led policies.

That's why I'm voting Green.

5/25/0910:32 AM

ilovewillyoungMember

I know i wont be voting any of the 3 main parties this time

5/25/0910:33 AM

Comrade OgilvyMember

My point is all the major parties are funded by corporations, bankers, international financiers, etc...where do we feature ?

The smaller parties like green etc have some decent ideologies but on the road to power a party makes many 'friends' who will help you on the way, just for a small favour here or there.

5/25/0910:39 AM

old hippy guyMember

I will be honest here the B NAZI P scare the hell out of me, BECAUSE they apeal to the politicaly ignorant and the dim, with their knee jerk reactions to the problems in our country,

and it is EXACTLY these fears that the German nazis played on in the 1920s n 30s,
I know that anyone with any intelligence can see them for what they realy are, but the number of people I know personaly who say that they (the scum) seem to be the ONLY party that has the British peoples interests at heart is shocking,

its got to the point where, when talking to some of my friends we tend not to "go there"

MY fear is that they will us into a civil war, cause you can spout democracy and "freedom of choice/speech" to me till you are blue in the face,
I know that I am NOT alone when I say we WILL NOT LET THIS HAPPEN, no matter what it takes they WILL be stopped,

5/25/0910:41 AM

kattymieowwMember 10 years

quote:
Originally posted by old hippy guy:
I will be honest here the B NAZI P scare the hell out of me, BECAUSE they apeal to the politicaly ignorant and the dim, with their knee jerk reactions to the problems in our country,

and it is EXACTLY these fears that the German nazis played on in the 1920s n 30s,
I know that anyone with any intelligence can see them for what they realy are, but the number of people I know personaly who say that they (the scum) seem to be the ONLY party that has the British peoples interests at heart is shocking,

its got to the point where, when talking to some of my friends we tend not to "go there"

MY fear is that they will us into a civil war, cause you can spout democracy and "freedom of choice/speech" to me till you are blue in the face,
I know that I am NOT alone when I say we WILL NOT LET THIS HAPPEN, no matter what it takes they WILL be stopped,

Too bloody right!

5/25/0910:46 AM

old hippy guyMember

quote:
Originally posted by kattymieoww:
I've always voted Labour,but alas not now.There is no way in hell I'd vote Tory.I've the champagne on ice when auld Maggie pops her clogs.

I know its probably not "pc" to say so Katty but I myself am waiting for that "glorious" day, I WILL party like its 1999 hehe,
I hope to God they dont try to pull some sort of lady Di type national mourning, state funeral bollox on us, cause I wont have it, nor will many of the people I know, I hated her THEN I hate her NOW

5/25/0910:46 AM

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