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Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by ~Cosmopolitan~:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

The mob that attacked the Ukip leader (more importantly what they said to him) proves me right.

Stop flaming, Vids

 

The Scottish mob were no more representative than an English mob acting like a bunch of thugs.  Does the English mob to represent you in the eyes of the world..?

 

No, me neither.

Mark my words, the Scots blame the English for all their problems, thats why the SNP exist in the first place.

Don't be so stupid  

Thats not stupid, why didn't that gang say anti UKIP things instead of the anti English things they actually did say.?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/poli...burgh-protesters-van

 

apparently one of the guys arrested is English

Yes, that was quite clearly mentioned on the news.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing

From the Independent- 

 

Lothian and Borders Police said two men were arrested at the  protest for alleged assault and breach of the peace. Mike Shaw, president of Edinburgh University Students Association's Socialist Society, tweeted: "Ukip protest yesterday branded as 'anti-English'. As a proud Englishman, arrested yesterday for protesting, I dispute these claims."

Liam O'Hare, a spokesman for the  Radical Independence  group,  said: "Farage's attempts to paint our protest as anti-English is pathetic. Our vision is for a Scotland that welcomes people from across the world, including England. This is the exact opposite of Farage and Ukip's vision for Scotland, which is a parochial, bigoted British nationalism. We're against his racist ideas, not where he comes from."

 

Did you manage then, Vids, or are you a bit tied up at the moment? 

FM
Originally Posted by erinp:

John Martin, the president of the Edinburgh College Students' Association, said: "We organised yesterday's protest against Farage out of a belief that UKIP's policies are fundamentally rotten. Their headline five-year immigration freeze is not only completely disconnected from reality, but is a policy that neither the people of Scotland nor the rest of the United Kingdom would stomach. His regressive and repugnant ideology is not far removed from that of the BNP - just dressed in a better-fitting suit."

A spokesman for the Radical Independence Campaign said: "This was about challenging someone whose party has been spouting racist, sexist and homophobic bile and gone unchallenged for months. Everyone who opposes the politics of fear and division should unite against UKIP - whether you live in Scotland or England."


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FM
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by erinp:

John Martin, the president of the Edinburgh College Students' Association, said: "We organised yesterday's protest against Farage out of a belief that UKIP's policies are fundamentally rotten. Their headline five-year immigration freeze is not only completely disconnected from reality, but is a policy that neither the people of Scotland nor the rest of the United Kingdom would stomach. His regressive and repugnant ideology is not far removed from that of the BNP - just dressed in a better-fitting suit."

A spokesman for the Radical Independence Campaign said: "This was about challenging someone whose party has been spouting racist, sexist and homophobic bile and gone unchallenged for months. Everyone who opposes the politics of fear and division should unite against UKIP - whether you live in Scotland or England."


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Think he's busy erin 

FM
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by erinp:

John Martin, the president of the Edinburgh College Students' Association, said: "We organised yesterday's protest against Farage out of a belief that UKIP's policies are fundamentally rotten. Their headline five-year immigration freeze is not only completely disconnected from reality, but is a policy that neither the people of Scotland nor the rest of the United Kingdom would stomach. His regressive and repugnant ideology is not far removed from that of the BNP - just dressed in a better-fitting suit."

A spokesman for the Radical Independence Campaign said: "This was about challenging someone whose party has been spouting racist, sexist and homophobic bile and gone unchallenged for months. Everyone who opposes the politics of fear and division should unite against UKIP - whether you live in Scotland or England."


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Think he's busy erin 

FM
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/poli...burgh-protesters-van

 

apparently one of the guys arrested is English

'After gamely attempting to argue back, trying to hit back at the repeated accusations of racism and homophobia with protests of innocence, Farage finally had to admit his surprise. "We've never, ever, ever had this kind of response. Is this a kind of anti-English thing? It could be," he said to a reporter.

It wasn't. Not entirely. The protesters disagreed. Many said they were there to protest at Ukip's stance on immigration and the political backgrounds of Ukip's motley collection of local council candidates; others were there to protest against his party's obscure economic policies. There was no violence, no punches thrown, no missiles lobbed.'

 

I was listening to an SNP spokeswoman earlier who said she'd walked past the incident without fully appreciating what was going on, and she saw it at the time as just being another rowdy student protest. Now of course she's biased, but she has a point.

The fact is that Farage has had an extremely easy ride so far, both from the public and the press (and that includes the BBC, whom he's now having a go at). Campaigning politicians have to put up with that sort of reception all the time (and sometimes a lot worse), Farage has managed to escape it up till now, but when finally pressed with some difficult questions and people who disagree with him he panicked. To dismiss the protesters as "fascists" and "anti-English" is just as ridiculous as accusing the BBC of a "hate campaign" against UKIP...

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:

From the Independent- 

 

Lothian and Borders Police said two men were arrested at the  protest for alleged assault and breach of the peace. Mike Shaw, president of Edinburgh University Students Association's Socialist Society, tweeted: "Ukip protest yesterday branded as 'anti-English'. As a proud Englishman, arrested yesterday for protesting, I dispute these claims."

Liam O'Hare, a spokesman for the  Radical Independence  group,  said: "Farage's attempts to paint our protest as anti-English is pathetic. Our vision is for a Scotland that welcomes people from across the world, including England. This is the exact opposite of Farage and Ukip's vision for Scotland, which is a parochial, bigoted British nationalism. We're against his racist ideas, not where he comes from."

 

Did you manage then, Vids, or are you a bit tied up at the moment? 


Then why did they chant "go back to England English scum"?  sounded pretty anti English to me.

 

You haven't proved me wrong or posted anything that has any basis of reality, but it's nice that Mr Liam O'Hare even welcomes English to his country, thats spiffing of him to even allow us to Scotland....im honoured.

Videostar
Last edited by Videostar
Originally Posted by erinp:

John Martin, the president of the Edinburgh College Students' Association, said: "We organised yesterday's protest against Farage out of a belief that UKIP's policies are fundamentally rotten. Their headline five-year immigration freeze is not only completely disconnected from reality, but is a policy that neither the people of Scotland nor the rest of the United Kingdom would stomach. His regressive and repugnant ideology is not far removed from that of the BNP - just dressed in a better-fitting suit."

A spokesman for the Radical Independence Campaign said: "This was about challenging someone whose party has been spouting racist, sexist and homophobic bile and gone unchallenged for months. Everyone who opposes the politics of fear and division should unite against UKIP - whether you live in Scotland or England."

And yet they were clearly anti English, no anti UKIP chants, just anti English chants.

 


 

Videostar
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by erinp:

He almost got his ass kicked yesterday

I doubt he will be back anytime soon

Or indeed any English people, but then thats what the Scottish want of course.

No that's not true of me .I am not a nationalist ,my hand would wither if I voted SNP. Parties like Ukip and the National front will always get that sort of reception here in Scotland.

Same here Erin.... 

 

Vids - you're sounding more racist than any of the Scots I know...

Thanks.

 


 

Videostar
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by Slinkiwitch x:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by erinp:

John Martin, the president of the Edinburgh College Students' Association, said: "We organised yesterday's protest against Farage out of a belief that UKIP's policies are fundamentally rotten. Their headline five-year immigration freeze is not only completely disconnected from reality, but is a policy that neither the people of Scotland nor the rest of the United Kingdom would stomach. His regressive and repugnant ideology is not far removed from that of the BNP - just dressed in a better-fitting suit."

A spokesman for the Radical Independence Campaign said: "This was about challenging someone whose party has been spouting racist, sexist and homophobic bile and gone unchallenged for months. Everyone who opposes the politics of fear and division should unite against UKIP - whether you live in Scotland or England."


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Think he's busy erin 


More insults, you lot belong in that anti English mob.

Videostar
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

Give yourself a blow job then.

Why do you even think thats funny?  do you think one forum member insulting and attacking another forum member simply because they disagree is something to be admired or laugh along with?  that is school yard bullying.

 

I haven't insulted any of you because you disagree with me, but this playground mentality is driving me mad, debate is a great thing but attacking and insulting someone for simply voicing an opinion is disgusting.

 

I'll do you all a favour now and leave this place for good, i've had this crap before and just rolled with it but this time it's too much.

 


 

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:

And yet they were clearly anti English, no anti UKIP chants, just anti English chants.

Sorry Vids, but that's simply not true, Did you see the Guardian article linked further up? It's subtitled "Party leader takes shelter in police riot van as demonstrators chant: 'Ukip scum off our streets'". It also mentions the woman in a wheelchair who blockaded Farage's taxi and said "Ukip are just bullsxxx".


Yes, there were anti-English/British chants, but the UKIP spin on the incident has been to concentrate entirely on that and to deflect from the fact that it was primarily an anti-UKIP protest: for example, one clip I saw showed a student taking Farage to task over anti-semetic attitudes in his party.

Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

Give yourself a blow job then.

Why do you even think thats funny?  do you think one forum member insulting and attacking another forum member simply because they disagree is something to be admired or laugh along with?  that is school yard bullying.

 

I haven't insulted any of you because you disagree with me, but this playground mentality is driving me mad, debate is a great thing but attacking and insulting someone for simply voicing an opinion is disgusting.

 

I'll do you all a favour now and leave this place for good, i've had this crap before and just rolled with it but this time it's too much.

 


 


I went    at the phrase used.

I was not and would not be part of any bullying and I am sorry that I have made you feel that way Vids.  Flower smiley photo: flower smiley_rose.gif

FM
Last edited by Former Member
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by erinp:
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:

Give yourself a blow job then.

Why do you even think thats funny?  do you think one forum member insulting and attacking another forum member simply because they disagree is something to be admired or laugh along with?  that is school yard bullying.

 

I haven't insulted any of you because you disagree with me, but this playground mentality is driving me mad, debate is a great thing but attacking and insulting someone for simply voicing an opinion is disgusting.

 

I'll do you all a favour now and leave this place for good, i've had this crap before and just rolled with it but this time it's too much.

 


 

 

 

 

It wasn't funny Vids. It was totally uncalled for. 

Rexi
Originally Posted by Videostar:
 

Same here Erin.... 

 

Vids - you're sounding more racist than any of the Scots I know...

Thanks.

 


 

Oh, put your petted lip away, mr rolly eyes and as cosi says, get your ass in the Voice thread tonight.

 

I'll apologise for that if you apologise for tarring every Scot with the same brush in these comments..

 

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I doubt he will be back anytime soon

Or indeed any English people, but then thats what the Scottish want of course.


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Ok then, but speak with a Scottish accent,  just to be safe. 

 

 

why? 

Because they dont like the English up em.

 

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Mark my words, the Scots blame the English for all their problems, thats why the SNP exist in the first place.


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And yet no other Scots have been openly slating those d*ckheads for the anti English chanting,


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Call me sensitive.. but that all seems pretty anti-Scotland in general to me.    Now I'm annoyed at myself becuase I usually don't let you draw me in when you're in you're in this mood.

Kaffs

It's a duty to hound all Queen's scum politicians but we get arrested, tortured & jailed by their pig police.

I was arrested & tortured with rigid handcuffs for peacefully leafleting "**** OFF ALL LAWYER POLITICIANS".

It's a fantasy to pretend that there is any democracy in Scotland when the police state exterminates dissent.

The fascistic defamation laws didn't allow concerns about gunman Thomas Hamilton to be published. What "democracy"?

Of course every politician who does not call for WAR FOR FREEDOM against the Queen's state ought to be hounded.

Every day when there are not bullets and bombs ripping apart the Queen's men, enemies of the Scots, is a "sad day".

 

Scottish National Standard Bearer website

For Freedom Forums

 

Peter Dow
Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
You have us at a disadvantage.

Ah semi-literacy. My sympathies.

 

Well let me give you some pointers.

 

Instead of saying "You" especially when you have not quoted someone's earlier post so it is not absolutely clear who you are addressing your remarks to, say "Peter Dow, you .." instead, if you are addressing me.

 

If you mean by that, I am a newbie here and you don't know me, I gave two links to my website at the end of my post where you can read all about me.

 

However, I don't know you, Garage Joe, or indeed anyone here, so we are all strangers to each other, all friends of each other whom we do not know. So we are all at an equal disadvantage in that sense.

 

Peter Dow
Originally Posted by Roger the Alien (fka noseyrosie):

Welcome to the forum Peter 

 

Thanks Roger!

Originally Posted by Xochiquetzal:

Welcome to our friendly forum Peter. 

 

I think you may fail to raise an argument, although they do happen here now and again. We generally manage to sort out our disagreements eventually. 

Thank you Xochiquetzal, if I've spelled your name correctly?

 

Do you like ABBA?

 

 

Originally Posted by Garage Joe:
Happy polly logies! I thought it was Vids being daft. Anyway if I'm semi-literate perhaps you can get 20 down. **I*T*R It's more moving, hence state of audience's eyes?

No. It's really me. The real Peter Dow.

 

Crosswords, scrabble, countdown etc. not my forte, sorry.

My diversions are computer war games mostly. 

Peter Dow

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