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Originally posted by TiGi:
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by TiGi:
Personally I think it's quite unprofessional of the staff to have patients on their list of friends. Asking for trouble if you ask me.


Tigi because my treatment keeps me alive and its three times a week we are bound to develop relationships and some nurses we consider friends. Ive been doing this this time around for eight years so we talk about most things that go on in our lives and know a bit about eachother. Spending so much time lines get blurred Smiler


I know all this. My Dad was a renal patient for many years. He was dialyised 3 times a week and built up close bonds with his nurses.
But that said, they are professionals and I think they should remain so.



Hug Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by Triggers:
Hi Toots! Valentine If you haven't named names I really don't see the problem. I also think it was very unfair that you had to change hospitals because you were unhappy with a mamber of staff.
I really don't know much about the workings of Facebook but I hope this all works out.



Thanks Triggers, if it wasn't for how it was sorted that other time i might of been more prepared to make official complaints to higher people Hug


Did you read my earlier post Toots? About blocking some Frineds from seeing certain things? that way you don't have to delete them but they can't see things such as wall posts etc...x


Yes sorry I'm so late getting back to you, trying to reply to every one and i came off dialysis and came home before i could cary on replying Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
Toots, I'd delete all your Nurse Friends and close your profile so only friends can see it, alternatively, you can create a group and put into the group people you don't want to read your wall posts/ status updates etc.......that way, you can keep them as Friends but stop the Professionals reading everything....

...if you need any help I'll try my best to show you how? xxx


Just when it seems she was being nice, there's Devil in the last line with the come on Roll Eyes Laugh


Are you implying smutt you think I missed temps? EekerSmiler


Laugh are you losing your touch? Eeker
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by Tootall:
Hi Tupps, like ive repied later on i have tried the proper channels before, one involving me being swept under the carpet instead of trying to fix the problem. Its hard making official complaints too as these are people who i see every other day. Intodays age they are to scared of getting sued, so instead of admitting not knowing something or admitting to do something wrong they don't, so instead of fixing the problem they don't and the mistakes happen over and over again. I have to say not all nurses are like this but they are extremly hesitant to tell a collegue they are doing something wrong, just make sure they them selves are doing it right. I am not looking to sue people either or i could of done it the night i was given 16 sleeping tablets one night instead of the ONE i was prescribed! I appreciate the job they do also as i wouldnt be alive now with out them.
Rightly or wrongly i have people on here i consider friends so like to sound off to them about my experiances and get advice. Also to let others know what does go on that is tried to be hidden Smiler


My post wasn't a criticism Toots.. just a little info and opinion. Sorry if it felt like it. Hug

You have a dimella on the FB thing.. but that's easily sorted by restricting access for certain people to certain stuff, PMing people rather than posting in 'public' or deleting people. The fact that your health care isn't always up to par is far more serious Eeker <--- my face when I read your post about the alarm incident.



Oh no Tupps i never took it the wrong way Hug , I appreciate everyone who takes the time to read my threads and also appreciate what they say too. Its after all why i posted to see wheter people though i was wrong to tlk about my hospital treatment and also about having nurses on FB.
I see you were shocked about the alarm incident and why i was angry about it. Its a basic thing i think if the machine is alarming to find out why and stop it doing so, not just by repeatedly hitting the silent and reset button every 15 seconds as she was prepared to do for the 5 hrs of my treatment Smiler
Tootall
I see students at the college everyday and get along with them great, one of them, a 19 year old, asked me if I would add him on FB and I say no. He is an adult, we get along but I don't feel comfortable, even if he was older I wouldn't add him.

I blocked a friend I used to work with because she is friends with a student and I could see him in pictures therefore he could probably see me in pictures. I haven't even added my cousins daughter because she is coming to the college in September and I don't want all her friends getting access to anything of mine.

You have to be very careful and I think you should try very hard not to mix FB and work. I would have thought that the nurses might not accept your friend request anyway but seen as though they have and are gossiping about it I would remove them or as mentioned above block them from seeing your status updates.
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Originally posted by Ella:
Toots I think the best thing would be to remove all your nurse friends and then moan as much as you like to the rest of us Hug You could even have a separate fb for your nurse friends if you really like to keep in touch with them.

Or you could speak to the nurse in question and tell her how you feel about her bedside manner and that you will tell her in future when you have a problema nd not post it on fb Hug

OR.....I can come kick her ass for making you feel bad Valentine


Lol Hi Ella, thanks for your post. I did in that incident and every incident let it be known when I'm not happy. But when you are scared to fall asleep incase incidents like this happen and you are not concious to object or keep check when you are under the care of a couple of nurses it can't be good can it. Like i say other nurses know about these weakneses the certain nurses have. So much so they would rather not e in the same bay as them.

Good ideas about the seperate Fb though, but am thinking of deleting most if not all of them though i like diamantes idea Hug

Lol imagines Temps, Finn and Ella kicking Ass! Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by Raggyâ™ĨDoll:
Yeah I agree with tupps, that sort of mistake is serious not just that the woman's personality annoys you, her laziness or lack of knowledge has put you and possibly others at risk. It's the nature of facebook to trivialise these things and make it look like bitching rather than valid complaints. I read somewhere that some study has shown sites like that and twitter have meant we don't empathise with people any more because we're battered with info. Sounds like bollix like Laugh


Lol Raggyâ™ĨDoll, its because i get so frustrated and angry that i feel i need to relese it on places like here. Lol nurses if they don't like the ward, how its un or fancy doing something different they can leave and do. Where as for us its treatmen we have to have 2 or 3 days a week to keep us alive. We cannot say we'll go somewhere else or just stop doing it. Also from the nature of giving us life saving treatment there are opertunitys for things to go drasticly wrong and that can effect us and our life Smiler


Oh defo, understand there were some horrible midwives when I was in hospital only for 2 nights I can understand you venting, danger is mixing your private life with a professional relationship & it sounds like you are getting there with sorting that out.

Sorry if my first post sounded harsh btw, your further explanations clarified the situation a bit more. Hope you get well soon Smiler Hug
Raggyâ™ĨDoll
Tootsxxxxxxx
I've read your status updates and your little moans and whinges, and all your fun stuff as well. I don't think you've ever given that much away about the nursing staff, and if some paranoid bint recognises herself, then that's her problem. As you say, it's your life and you want it looking after properly. Having said that, perhaps you should delete all the nurses from FB and take all your complaints to a higher authority.
Kaytee
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Originally posted by HyacinthB:
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I also feel though if a nurse makes a complaint there is something done immediately the problem is approached but if its a patient doing this its not taken as serious.

Not true Toots. I have worked both in law and in the medical profession and any patient complaint is treated very seriously indeed.

I'm sorry if you felt my earlier post was somewhat harsh. It wasn't meant to be. I was merely trying to explain how a conflict of interest could arise.


I appreciate you were just trying to help me Hyacinth and was pleased to readyour reply. I'm however talking about my experiences as i always do and in my ward they try to deal with it in house. Hence i was shoved out of one hospital to another one by the person in charge. I was told of the meeting 5mins before it hapened so had no one on my side, happened behind closed doors and ended with me being told i had to dialises else where. I know how things are suppose to work and sometimes how it happens is very different. I have been a dialysis patient 10 years, a renal patient since i was three so have some experience how things happen too lol

I do see what you mean about the conflict of interest too HugSmiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by FGG Aka Crocodile Rock:
The fact that someone recognised themselves from your not so flattering (i'm assuming) comment must mean what you wrote was true.

And no, they have no right to tell you what you can or cannot do...no names were used and as someone else said, you have as much right to a whinge and moan as the next person...

Carry on and bollox to them!


Lol thank you for your reply Croc, I felt the same as you before i was approached this morning. I also feel though if a nurse makes a complaint there is something done immediately the problem is approached but if its a patient doing this its not taken as serious. Smiler


Well quite!!

And if the person you spoke about isn't one of your friends and read the stuff for themselves WTF are they doing spying on their patient?


They definitely not on my face book and infact very few nurses are actually on the site it self Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by Tiddly~Wink:
Take heart also, that if she's persistently incompetent, the chances are she's more than likely to have more than you, who are finding her work unsatisfactory. You might even have the satisfaction of hearing quite soon, that she may be moved to a different department. She's putting people's lives at risk, and as you probably know more about your treatment, and how it should be carried out, she knows herself that she's inadequate. This will not have gone unnoticed. It's only a matter of time, before she's hauled up before her superiors, as this is in the remits of gross negligence on her part. The incident with the alarm makes me Mad


Sadly ive been through this before Tiddly, it gos on for years Its not over looked, its seen by the other competant nurses but just left to it. There is a ward manager but they are mostly in their office, see them when theres a inspection due and telling everyone to do what should be done each day and checks on it. They doesn't bother any other days. I wish they had a Matron in charge checking what needs to be done is but theres not. My ward is getting a ward for clenliness, shame its only after they were told the surprise inspection was happening each time and the big nurse higher than Sisters turns up to mop the floor before surprise inspection turns up Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by Garage Joe:
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Just because someone doesn't name names doesn't mean the person can't be identified. It sounds like they have been in this instance despite no names.


But does that mean i can't mention anything that happens to me in hospital just in case some one takes offence if they feel my experience involved them and makes them sound bad? I'm having trouble working this in my head. Can i not talk about my family either? Smiler


What you must understand is that there are no secrets on here. If you talk about anyone on the interweb, it can be read by others.


Yes that is right but i never thought i was doing anything wrong reporting whats happening, especially when they don't take the oppertunity to fix things Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by tupps:
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by tupps:
Just because someone doesn't name names doesn't mean the person can't be identified. It sounds like they have been in this instance despite no names.


But does that mean i can't mention anything that happens to me in hospital just in case some one takes offence if they feel my experience involved them and makes them sound bad? I'm having trouble working this in my head. Can i not talk about my family either? Smiler


You asked in your OP if you could be sued.. it would very much depend on what you said etc.

But in a general nutshell it means that... if someone publishes (posts) anything which would likely lower the person concerned in the estimations of what a Court would deem "right thinking people".. e.g. it attempts to discredit that person's character or reputation; what is published (posted) is communicated to a third person; from what is published (posted) it is possible to identify the person.. in theory there could be a claim yes. But as with any claim, there are always defences... which may or may not apply.

People can say what they like about people.. post what they like.. as they often do.. my point was just that if it contravened the law and someone had a mind to make a claim.. then in theory the person 'saying' whatever could get in 'trouble' and could get 'sued'.

I take it you've had no-one saying that.. so the immediate problem is that rather than any threats of legal action it is impinging on your use of FB and your relationship with the people charged with your healthcare.. so I wouldn't waste an energy on worrying about that bridge unless you come to it (which is probably unlikely).


Thank you Tupps Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by Mazzystar:
Hi Toots
AFAIK its not illegal,but I dont think you should have anyone on there who could be identified even without a name.Though I'd never discuss a student on FB,even without a name,I stll wouldnt have one on mine(despite getting asked on numerous occassions)!!!
Keep your moans here (or similar) where you're using a nom de Plume and cant be identified.Or else use MSN to privately message anyone if you need to let off steam.


Thank you Mazzystar, I have to think about what everyones said i think. I don't like to tell my sister and mum each time something happens as they feel helpless and frustrated for me but sometimes i just need to vent Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by **Dolly**:
The problem with things like forums, email, text ect is that they are just words coming off a page. There is no facial expression ect to give the recipient a clue as to the tone of the words if you follow me. So. According to how a person might be feeling or what mood they are in, they can read a message one way or if in a good mood another, because they are just words on a page they are open to misintepretaion.

Think about how many times you may have read something, got on your high horse and when you have spoken to the person that have no, thats not what I meant.

To be safe and more importantly make you feel comfortable when you go for treatment, delete them all off face book or say nothing at all on FB use other mediums to vent.

Good luck - hope this all makes sence.


Thanks Dolly, it does make sense indeed and i know about what you mean about how you can read things different ways. Thats why i post a smile at the end of most my posts so people don't think i was angry/ upset mistakingly Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by Templetonpeck:
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Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
Toots, I'd delete all your Nurse Friends and close your profile so only friends can see it, alternatively, you can create a group and put into the group people you don't want to read your wall posts/ status updates etc.......that way, you can keep them as Friends but stop the Professionals reading everything....

...if you need any help I'll try my best to show you how? xxx


Just when it seems she was being nice, there's Devil in the last line with the come on Roll Eyes Laugh


Are you implying smutt you think I missed temps? EekerSmiler


Laugh are you losing your touch? Eeker


Lol I have been slightly out of practice lol Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by Lindsxdx:
I see students at the college everyday and get along with them great, one of them, a 19 year old, asked me if I would add him on FB and I say no. He is an adult, we get along but I don't feel comfortable, even if he was older I wouldn't add him.

I blocked a friend I used to work with because she is friends with a student and I could see him in pictures therefore he could probably see me in pictures. I haven't even added my cousins daughter because she is coming to the college in September and I don't want all her friends getting access to anything of mine.

You have to be very careful and I think you should try very hard not to mix FB and work. I would have thought that the nurses might not accept your friend request anyway but seen as though they have and are gossiping about it I would remove them or as mentioned above block them from seeing your status updates.


Thanks Linds, I have not added my nephew to FB because I don't want to have to watch what i say Smiler
Tootall
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Originally posted by Raggyâ™ĨDoll:
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by Raggyâ™ĨDoll:
Yeah I agree with tupps, that sort of mistake is serious not just that the woman's personality annoys you, her laziness or lack of knowledge has put you and possibly others at risk. It's the nature of facebook to trivialise these things and make it look like bitching rather than valid complaints. I read somewhere that some study has shown sites like that and twitter have meant we don't empathise with people any more because we're battered with info. Sounds like bollix like Laugh


Lol Raggyâ™ĨDoll, its because i get so frustrated and angry that i feel i need to relese it on places like here. Lol nurses if they don't like the ward, how its un or fancy doing something different they can leave and do. Where as for us its treatmen we have to have 2 or 3 days a week to keep us alive. We cannot say we'll go somewhere else or just stop doing it. Also from the nature of giving us life saving treatment there are opertunitys for things to go drasticly wrong and that can effect us and our life Smiler


Oh defo, understand there were some horrible midwives when I was in hospital only for 2 nights I can understand you venting, danger is mixing your private life with a professional relationship & it sounds like you are getting there with sorting that out.

Sorry if my first post sounded harsh btw, your further explanations clarified the situation a bit more. Hope you get well soon Smiler Hug


Thank you Raggyâ™ĨDoll, I'm working on getting better Hug
Tootall
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Originally posted by Kaytee:
Tootsxxxxxxx
I've read your status updates and your little moans and whinges, and all your fun stuff as well. I don't think you've ever given that much away about the nursing staff, and if some paranoid bint recognises herself, then that's her problem. As you say, it's your life and you want it looking after properly. Having said that, perhaps you should delete all the nurses from FB and take all your complaints to a higher authority.


Thanks Kaytee think I'll just delete for now, I do find you all a great support to me Smiler
Tootall
From now on you keep a diary. Times..dates..names. You should tell your family, because they can talk on your behalf, and God forbid something should happen and you were unable to speak for yourself, then they would have all the facts, to verify what you have been going through at the hands of these incompetents. The wrong medication is a major breach of safety, and that alone, should have been investigated fully, and the person in question should have been severely hauled over the coals and at the very least suspended from duty, until a full enquiry was launched into their very serious misconduct. as I said before, most long term patients like yourself, will know more about your treatment, and requirements, than somebody who is fairly new to your department. This shouldn't be the case, but unfortunately some, (wrongly) think they know it all. Every patient is different, so they should be taught to listen and learn, and gain your trust, the way you implicitly feel you can trust them, after all when all's said and done, your life is literally in their hands, and you should at least be able to trust them to know what they are doing. Is it not possible for you to be dialysed at home at all? Just a thought. Hug
FM
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Originally posted by Tootall:
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Originally posted by Kaytee:
Tootsxxxxxxx
I've read your status updates and your little moans and whinges, and all your fun stuff as well. I don't think you've ever given that much away about the nursing staff, and if some paranoid bint recognises herself, then that's her problem. As you say, it's your life and you want it looking after properly. Having said that, perhaps you should delete all the nurses from FB and take all your complaints to a higher authority.


Thanks Kaytee think I'll just delete for now, I do find you all a great support to me Smiler


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Kaytee

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