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Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

What I don't understand about the Austrian singer, if he/she wants to be a man why wear the dress, if he/she wants to be a woman why keep the beard?

Cos that's what cross dressers do  

I thought she was trans sexual? post or pre.

Nope, just a cross dresser 

So why do they call him a 'she'?  .. and why is she 'capturing hearts'  (although I have to confess, Eddie captures mine, but I prefer him dressed as a man)

Yeah, that confuses me too, cos underneath it all.....that person has still got a pair.....

FM
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

What I don't understand about the Austrian singer, if he/she wants to be a man why wear the dress, if he/she wants to be a woman why keep the beard?

Cos that's what cross dressers do  

I thought she was trans sexual? post or pre.

Nope, just a cross dresser 

So why do they call him a 'she'?  .. and why is she 'capturing hearts'  (although I have to confess, Eddie captures mine, but I prefer him dressed as a man)

Good point.  So it's a he then...and he'd be fine with being called "he".

Does it actually matter?

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Well, if nothing else, I'm encouraged by the non bias across Europe towards somebody different (we can't even agree on her/him on this forum). So all good and the song is too and she sings better than Mollie.

But what's so different?  It's a cross dresser as far as I can see - there's 1000's of them everywhere in Europe.

Cosmopolitan
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Well, if nothing else, I'm encouraged by the non bias across Europe towards somebody different (we can't even agree on her/him on this forum). So all good and the song is too and she sings better than Mollie.

Yes

 

And TBH - I gave up thinking of it as a song contest years ago - it's just a bit of fun really isn't it?

Maybe in this country.......

FM
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

What I don't understand about the Austrian singer, if he/she wants to be a man why wear the dress, if he/she wants to be a woman why keep the beard?

Cos that's what cross dressers do  

I thought she was trans sexual? post or pre.

Nope, just a cross dresser 

So why do they call him a 'she'?  .. and why is she 'capturing hearts'  (although I have to confess, Eddie captures mine, but I prefer him dressed as a man)

Good point.  So it's a he then...and he'd be fine with being called "he".

Does it actually matter?

Not if they weren't doing an X Factor 'emotional story' number on him, no.   not that they whole competition matters, of course.. but that's a different story.     Good laugh in here though 

Kaffs
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Well, if nothing else, I'm encouraged by the non bias across Europe towards somebody different (we can't even agree on her/him on this forum). So all good and the song is too and she sings better than Mollie.

Yes, but we already knew that different people aren't treated badly anymore, we don't need to vote for them to win these shows over everyone else to prove a silly point.

 

But I would like to see a level playing field for all contestants instead of this kind of nonsense.

 

So the others aren't "different" so they are ignored or just not thought of as "cool or righton" enough to win these shows, it's unfair on them just because they don't have that "difference" to fall back on. 

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Well, if nothing else, I'm encouraged by the non bias across Europe towards somebody different (we can't even agree on her/him on this forum). So all good and the song is too and she sings better than Mollie.

Yes, but we already knew that different people aren't treated badly anymore, we don't need to vote for them to win these shows over everyone else to prove a silly point.

 

But I would like to see a level playing field for all contestants instead of this kind of nonsense.

 

So the others aren't "different" so they are ignored or just not thought of as "cool or righton" enough to win these shows, it's unfair on them just because they don't have that "difference" to fall back on. 

People pick up their phones all over Eurovision land and vote for their winner. How is that not a level playing field?

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

What I don't understand about the Austrian singer, if he/she wants to be a man why wear the dress, if he/she wants to be a woman why keep the beard?

Cos that's what cross dressers do  

I thought she was trans sexual? post or pre.

Nope, just a cross dresser 

So why do they call him a 'she'?  .. and why is she 'capturing hearts'  (although I have to confess, Eddie captures mine, but I prefer him dressed as a man)

Good point.  So it's a he then...and he'd be fine with being called "he".

Does it actually matter?

It matters if that contestant wins simply because they stand out from the crowd, it's unfair on the others who go onto the stage as themselves and don't dress up like a panto dame to get attention.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Well, if nothing else, I'm encouraged by the non bias across Europe towards somebody different (we can't even agree on her/him on this forum). So all good and the song is too and she sings better than Mollie.

Yes, but we already knew that different people aren't treated badly anymore, we don't need to vote for them to win these shows over everyone else to prove a silly point.

 

But I would like to see a level playing field for all contestants instead of this kind of nonsense.

 

So the others aren't "different" so they are ignored or just not thought of as "cool or righton" enough to win these shows, it's unfair on them just because they don't have that "difference" to fall back on. 

People pick up their phones all over Eurovision land and vote for their winner. How is that not a level playing field?

Because all the talk was about a bearded lady rather than the song or all the contestants.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Well, if nothing else, I'm encouraged by the non bias across Europe towards somebody different (we can't even agree on her/him on this forum). So all good and the song is too and she sings better than Mollie.

Yes, but we already knew that different people aren't treated badly anymore, we don't need to vote for them to win these shows over everyone else to prove a silly point.

 

But I would like to see a level playing field for all contestants instead of this kind of nonsense.

 

So the others aren't "different" so they are ignored or just not thought of as "cool or righton" enough to win these shows, it's unfair on them just because they don't have that "difference" to fall back on. 

FM
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:

Well, if nothing else, I'm encouraged by the non bias across Europe towards somebody different (we can't even agree on her/him on this forum). So all good and the song is too and she sings better than Mollie.

Yes, but we already knew that different people aren't treated badly anymore, we don't need to vote for them to win these shows over everyone else to prove a silly point.

 

But I would like to see a level playing field for all contestants instead of this kind of nonsense.

 

So the others aren't "different" so they are ignored or just not thought of as "cool or righton" enough to win these shows, it's unfair on them just because they don't have that "difference" to fall back on. 

People pick up their phones all over Eurovision land and vote for their winner. How is that not a level playing field?

Emotional voting 

FM
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

What I don't understand about the Austrian singer, if he/she wants to be a man why wear the dress, if he/she wants to be a woman why keep the beard?

Cos that's what cross dressers do  

I thought she was trans sexual? post or pre.

Nope, just a cross dresser 

So why do they call him a 'she'?  .. and why is she 'capturing hearts'  (although I have to confess, Eddie captures mine, but I prefer him dressed as a man)

Good point.  So it's a he then...and he'd be fine with being called "he".

Does it actually matter?

It matters if that contestant wins simply because they stand out from the crowd, it's unfair on the others who go onto the stage as themselves and don't dress up like a panto dame to get attention.

Perhaps people liked the song/singer. It wasn't a block vote - more individuals liked him/her for whatever reason more than the other contestants. There's no conspiracy - he/she was the most popular.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaffs:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

What I don't understand about the Austrian singer, if he/she wants to be a man why wear the dress, if he/she wants to be a woman why keep the beard?

Cos that's what cross dressers do  

I thought she was trans sexual? post or pre.

Nope, just a cross dresser 

So why do they call him a 'she'?  .. and why is she 'capturing hearts'  (although I have to confess, Eddie captures mine, but I prefer him dressed as a man)

Good point.  So it's a he then...and he'd be fine with being called "he".

Does it actually matter?

It matters if that contestant wins simply because they stand out from the crowd, it's unfair on the others who go onto the stage as themselves and don't dress up like a panto dame to get attention.

Perhaps people liked the song/singer. It wasn't a block vote - more individuals liked him/her for whatever reason more than the other contestants. There's no conspiracy - he/she was the most popular.

Haven't you seen enough of this kind of thing to see why people vote for this kind of act? the same as Dana International, Nadia, Luke A, Pete, or Sam, it's the difference everyone focuses on, not whether they are good enough to win.

 

This "acceptance" thing is very outdated and boring now.

Videostar
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