with someone like Katherine Jenkins or Leona lewis, big singers i think we may well have a chance, with the right song too.  Jade got 24 points last year, ok not great, but better than other years.

So we didn't win eh?....Well done to Belgium...not a bad show for my sweepstake pick 

That's what used to happen, of course. The Eurovision was originally meant as a song writing contest, to provide an opportunity for new songwriting talent. The "Song for Europe" contest (or it's equivalent) had the performer already picked - often a really big, established name like Cliff Richard or Lulu - and they performed 8 or so songs written by various newcomers.


It might be worth noting that the last time we actually won the competition was when an already-established act was chosen - Katrina and the Waves...

As I've said before..................it's down to the 'knockout/punch' factor....and we simply don't have it! due to the lily livered voters that vote for our songs

I didn't know that suzy.
I liked Belgium best.

 Brisket...I wasn't happy at first but then I heard it tonight and I thought it was cool (but not very Eurovision).

YR, that's pretty much what I was about to say too. We had visitors, so I only saw the voting and heard the winning song.

According to some who saw it the show was rubbish lol, so your visitors were probably more interesting or entertaining than watching it, well hopefully lol

I'm moving to Armenia...

I thought Belgium should have won, but our song wasn't a last place bad song surely.?


We were screwed by Europe again.

I agree Vids.
I liked Belgium much more than any of the others.
It is very good to see your name here again. (We've been talking about you )

You guys have been talking about me???     all good I assume.

I'll be back on here full time when BB11 starts on June the 11th.


I've missed you guys

 We were dreadful!

Waterman and co-composers Mike Stock and Steve Crosby said: "We are proud that Josh performed our song brilliantly and he did a fantastic job for the UK."

According to my extensive investigations, Jade came fifth last year, with 173 points.

I'm not sure we can use the 'They all hate us' excuse, anymore.

I never watch it,I assume we were crap ,as usual.

Worse than that... we came stone last, think out of 25?

It was a terrible song really, it sounded like something that belonged at number 35 in the chart in the mid 80's, which isn't really a surprise when Pete Waterman was behind it...

Was it the worst song on the night? Not quite... When I heard the Serbian song I thought that would be a contender for nil points, but with the voting system being ever so slightly flawed they ended up with 72 points...

It makes me smile when I recall an interview Pete Waterman gave a few days ago during which he rather churlishly implied that most of the other songs were poor, and below the standard ofd his own piece.

We deserved to come last. That song was atrocious and he sang completely out of tune.
"That Sounds Good To Me"? Errr, no it doesn't!  

 

Perhaps this is why we have stopped trying?

Remember though Blizzie that Andy Lloyd Webber toured Europe with that song before Eurovision last year, just like the German girl who won last night did - so each time all the countries involved were familiar with the songs.

Cheating in my book but there you go

If they don't like us, how come half of them sing in English instead of their own lingo?  

That winner sang in Cockney, talked in American and reminded me of Tracy Barlow.

Our song didn't deserve to win clearly, but it wasn't the worst song of the night, im not having that.

Much like alot of the other songs that finished above us.

Well, a lot of Germans speak English with an American accent.
However, was I the only one who thought that both the song and performance were rip-offs of Lily Allen?

You have me at a disadvantage - I only heard a few before switching over to Wallander. However the badly delivered UK song seemed from a different Boom bang a bang time in comparison to the others. I suspect that it received ten points due to entry mistakes.

Eugine's Lair, I thought it was more Kate Nash - who also rips off Lily Allen.
A rip-off of a rip-off..

It was! Kinda like a Germanic 'Mockney'...apples and pears guvnor...knees up muvva bran, oopsie daisy...'ave a banana 

I liked the Netherlands song (a typical old-fashioned Eurovision type of song), but it didn't even get through to the final night.
I also liked Belgium which finished in a respectably high position.
All the rest, surely. were the same song, just done in different arrangements.

Because English is the accepted international language, regardless as to whether the people and/or culture are liked.

The official language of Europe is French, not English.

Heheh - I don't want to start an Allen/Nash war, but I've always considered them contemporaries. They both started-out seriously at about the same time, and were both considered part of a general movement in the London scene. It's just that Lily broke into the big-time first, so the GBP got the impression that Kate was following in her footsteps.

There used to be a rule that you had to sing in your national language, but that didn't prove popular. I think the Scandinavian countries in particular felt they were at a disadvantage.

It probably also had the adverse affect of encouraging more "boom-bang-a-bang/la-la-la" songs to get round the language problem...

Is it?
I wasn't aware that there was any single, official language. Indeed, this remains one of the big, unsolved problems.
The EU has tried to standardize a few, official languages, but they've never been able to agree on which ones to use, so there are currently 23 official EU languages. The 3 EU political centres (Brussels, Strasbourg and Luxembourg) are all French-speaking, but all documents produced still have to be translated into all 23 languages.
The most widely-spoken mother-tongue in the EU is German, not French. I'm not certain, but I suspect the most common native language in the Eurovision Zone is Russian...

There isn't an official language of Europe...according to my source in Brussels