velvet donkey posted:Return to sender with a tuppeny red.
Don't whatever you dare....send it with a penny black! 
I have a fear of destabilisation. There has to be a really good reason to attack the status quo. As I said in the other place the Brexit peepil have to........
a) come up with a valid reason to leave.
b) explain how the UK would leave.
c) explain what the future holds.
I think point B is partially defined but they haven't been able to explain the rest of it.
Sprout posted:velvet donkey posted:Return to sender with a tuppeny red.
Don't whatever you dare....send it with a penny black!
you can send them back, loads have and haven't been as polite as me I might add ...mine did not include sweary words, and no mention of pigs, bacon, electoral fraud or tax evasion 
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Sprout posted:velvet donkey posted:Return to sender with a tuppeny red.
Don't whatever you dare....send it with a penny black!
you can send them back, loads have and haven't been as polite as me I might add ...mine did not include sweary words, and no mention of pigs, bacon, electoral fraud or tax evasion
PMSL!
just in case you've not made your mind up yet
I'm defo in now cos my mum says so.
Sprout posted:Has anyone read their leaflet yet? I haven't
I have but couldn't be bothered to read it. I think a counter point would have been appropriate and fair under the circumstances. I'm not pro-brexit but just think the leaflet should have given the other camp a voice.
Garage Joe posted:I have a fear of destabilisation. There has to be a really good reason to attack the status quo. As I said in the other place the Brexit peepil have to........
a) come up with a valid reason to leave.
b) explain how the UK would leave.
c) explain what the future holds.
I think point B is partially defined but they haven't been able to explain the rest of it.
I'm torn between the prospect of exit, which would let the rabid right wing off their rather stretchy leash and the prospect of the election of a left wing government that could nationalise as it saw fit and chuck Rupert Murdoch out of the country.
I think Corbyn's right backing the EU as the EU, while the Tories are in charge, is a protection against rampant right wing dogma that would be unfettered if we left the EU while the Tories were in charge.
I'm an out.....nothing the In people has said has changed my mind
Carnelian posted:Garage Joe posted:I have a fear of destabilisation. There has to be a really good reason to attack the status quo. As I said in the other place the Brexit peepil have to........
a) come up with a valid reason to leave.
b) explain how the UK would leave.
c) explain what the future holds.
I think point B is partially defined but they haven't been able to explain the rest of it.
I'm torn between the prospect of exit, which would let the rabid right wing off their rather stretchy leash and the prospect of the election of a left wing government that could nationalise as it saw fit and chuck Rupert Murdoch out of the country.
I think Corbyn's right backing the EU as the EU, while the Tories are in charge, is a protection against rampant right wing dogma that would be unfettered if we left the EU while the Tories were in charge.
I don't know too much about the Brexit threads but their denizens certainly pop up on our IN sites!
They still seem unable to come up with a credible reason for leaving and have no idea of how to define the future outside. If they want to trade with the commonwealth then they will need a long tunnel.
I'm still waiting to be presented with strong reasons to leave, they just aren't coming.
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:
I'm still waiting to be presented with strong reasons to leave, they just aren't coming.
I've always been for staying in.. and I don't see anything changing. Even though Boris is now bringing Hitler into the equation. 
What a pillock.
velvet donkey posted:I don't like the regime but it weighs up against the uncertainty and no doubt following spite. It's catch 22. I believe a country should be able to govern itself but I probably live in cuckoo land.
Europe is the Hotel California.
Boris wouldn't get past the Billy Smart auditions.
Too right Donks. You can't leave Hotel California. 
Especially after the leave comments Boris made regarding Hitler! 
Kaffs posted:I've always been for staying in.. and I don't see anything changing. Even though Boris is now bringing Hitler into the equation.
Funny, last week we had smears from Cameron and co playing the race card, Boris on Hitler...Livingston suspended for mentioning Hitler because he's anti semitic ... I despair at this Country, I really do
I'm still voting in and have no intention of changing my mind, we vote in and if it goes tits up we can leave, we vote out and it goes tits up we're lumbered
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Kaffs posted:I've always been for staying in.. and I don't see anything changing. Even though Boris is now bringing Hitler into the equation.
Funny, last week we had smears from Cameron and co playing the race card, Boris on Hitler...Livingston suspended for mentioning Hitler because he's anti semitic ... I despair at this Country, I really do
I'm still voting in and have no intention of changing my mind, we vote in and if it goes tits up we can leave, we vote out and it goes tits up we're lumbered
Just what I said ages ago
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Just what I said ages ago
where politicians are already fighting over when to have another referendum.
which loosely translates as Nippy won't STFU about it, I'm sick hearing that 'when it's obvious the majority of Scots want independence we'll have another vote' The only way to know the majority want it is to vote - we did that - the answer is no. She needs to shut up and suck it up., and get on with the job she's supposed to be doing NOW.
As for the 'Scottish Referendum', from where I stand it seems to me it's EVERYONE ELSE who is going on about it and TELLING US what the SNP want.
From what I saw the SNP were trying to get on with the situation as it now was, but others wouldn't let it lie.
Anyway, enough of that! That wasn't what the post was about, it was highlighting the fact that the same threats/warnings/scaremongering if you like are being trotted out over this potential leaving of the EU as were flying about over the potential Scottish exit.
They are happy to tell us of all the negative things an exit could lead to,
COULD is the crux word here. If it could be bad. it equally COULD be good.
Every decision we make in life has a 50/50 chance of being good or bad.
Sorry, Fluffers... but I can't agree. This is from their manifesto .. not something someone else is telling them. (I'll shut up now )
We will achieve independence only when a majority of our fellow citizens are persuaded that it offers the best future for our country. Our success will depend on the strength of our arguments and the clarity of our vision. We believe that the Scottish Parliament should have the right to hold another referendum if there is clear and sustained evidence that independence has become the preferred option of a majority of the Scottish people â or if there is a significant and material change in the circumstances that prevailed in 2014, such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against our will.
We will undertake new work, starting this summer to persuade a clear majority of the Scottish people that independence is the best future for our country.
Derek Laud (BB6) has just appeared on the C4 documentary "Boris v Dave"!
Derek apparently knew David Cameron when he worked at Conservative Central Office after leaving university.
Derek Laud was a bit of a berk on BB6
Is anyone NOT voting in the EU referendum?
Saint posted:Derek Laud was a bit of a berk on BB6
As with quite a few HMs on BB6, I really wanted to like Derek but he kept making it impossible for me to do so. 
I have to say though that I thought he came across very well on tonight's show.
I'm voting.....I've gone to out now....I was out, then I went to in, now I'm out again
Saint posted:Is anyone NOT voting in the EU referendum?
I'm voting for sure.
Sprout posted:I'm voting.....I've gone to out now....I was out, then I went to in, now I'm out again
The filth of it all
Moderator !!!!!!
Sprout posted:I'm voting.....I've gone to out now....I was out, then I went to in, now I'm out again
But you need to shake it all about.
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Sprout posted:I'm voting.....I've gone to out now....I was out, then I went to in, now I'm out again
But you need to shake it all about.
Saint posted:Sprout posted:I'm voting.....I've gone to out now....I was out, then I went to in, now I'm out again
The filth of it all
Moderator !!!!!!
I haven't shaken it ll about......yet
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:Sprout posted:I'm voting.....I've gone to out now....I was out, then I went to in, now I'm out again
But you need to shake it all about.
There's still time
Depends what it is that"s in or out, or being shaken about.
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Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Depends what it is that"s in or out.
.
In my case, my vote
I've decided not to vote
Can't trust any of them to tell the truth
On your heads be it . . . . while I bury mine in the sand, aherm 
