Foregone conclusion 
I love this guy.... *warning, sweary words* 
I've not put the youtube link in because there is a swear word in the title...I dinnae want a banning 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMHN5BnD00E
^^^^^^
Sprout posted:
he's good...there are loads on youtube...normally he's bang on 
Switzerland has withdrawn its application to join the EU....it's only been pending for 25 yrs......so I'm with Switzerland......may as well pull up the drawbridge before the entire thing collapses....which it surely will sooner or later
Kaytee posted:Switzerland has withdrawn its application to join the EU....it's only been pending for 25 yrs......so I'm with Switzerland......may as well pull up the drawbridge before the entire thing collapses....which it surely will sooner or later
And unsurprisingly , I'm with you Kaytee 
Let's get out while the going is good !!!
Kaytee posted:Switzerland has withdrawn its application to join the EU....it's only been pending for 25 yrs......so I'm with Switzerland......may as well pull up the drawbridge before the entire thing collapses....which it surely will sooner or later
I see what you're saying but it's just so confusing at the minute....first I was out, now i'm in...but could be out. What are we all to do? 
velvet donkey posted:We've got Christopher Ward and Bremont.
I'm sure we can take it to Rolex, Patek Philippe, Omega, Jaeger Le-Coultre
What if I wanna be by myself though? There's no one selling Europe to me at the minute (depending on what I read and who I speak to) 
velvet donkey posted:There's no-one selling it to me either
What's the point of a country if you cannae run it yourself?
I totally get you Donks! and then in another breath.....it seems that we should be in. That's why I said in another fred....I need a clear cut list of pros and cons as to why we should be in or out 
And by that I mean...the truth!
How much worse off are those countries that aren't in Europe I wonder?
velvet donkey posted:Watch This Week with some Blue Nun
I can hear both sides but I come down on sovereignty. Not Merkel.
Yes I want us to not be beholden to anyone else as well, but then other things I hear contradict my thoughts.
I'm hoping this all pans itself out by the time we come to vote
I also kinda like Andrew too. He seems to be able to take peeps to task
Well said Mr McDonnell! taxes just aren't fair these days!
velvet donkey posted:Yep. I love the dude
Best prog. on the telly
I like watching him and JoCo (as he calls her) together
Right peeps. I'm orf for tonight 
Nice iPad snaffle but.
I'm still on the fence, my neighbour is none too pleased.
Never give up your day job EC
If we 'Brexit' does that mean we can no longer enter Eurovision?
The positive from that would be the BBC does not waste millions funding it...
As Eurovision pre-dates the EU, I don't think a 'BREXIT' will alter anything on that score.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:As Eurovision pre-dates the EU, I don't think a 'BREXIT' will alter anything on that score.
Nil Poi 
I'm not hearing anything to move me off the fence, so as a default position I think I would rather stay in than leave, mainly because I don't want my Roquefort cheese to go up in price.
No one has said anything to convince me to vote out as yet. In fact no one has said much apart from the politicians and I ain't gonna listen to them.
We really need some proper background to it all, so that we have some chance of understanding the possibilities of how things could change (or not) in the future given a YES or NO outcome.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:We really need some proper background to it all, so that we have some chance of understanding the possibilities of how things could change (or not) in the future given a YES or NO outcome.
100% right. That's exactly what I have been saying since this started and as yet info is thin on the ground.
Enthusiastic Contrafibularities posted:No one has said anything to convince me to vote out as yet. In fact no one has said much apart from the politicians and I ain't gonna listen to them.
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:We really need some proper background to it all, so that we have some chance of understanding the possibilities of how things could change (or not) in the future given a YES or NO outcome.
I agree with both of you. As an undecided, I need some proper facts before I can reach a decision.
there is no way I will vote out...and we should be sorting out the corruption in this country at the very top, instead of handing them more power....
Everytime I think 'OUT; I realize it's more of a knee-jerk reaction to some rubbish someone spouted, rather than an even and rational considered opinion.
velvet donkey posted:Why Cameron declared it I'll never know. There's other ways to sort out a bun fight.
Now it's an Eton Mess.
I was out, now I'm in....this could change......a lot!
renegotiating the trade agreement with Europe...and they are gonna give us a good deal, I really don't think so
Human rights, union laws and the like the tories are trying to destroy and if people think voting out of Europe is going to make us pull the drawbridge up it won't.
Has anyone read their leaflet yet? I haven't
Baz posted:Sprout posted:Has anyone read their leaflet yet? I haven't
I have .....
You're not moving though!
Sprout posted:Has anyone read their leaflet yet? I haven't
I'm sending mine back to tory headquarters freepost... I've included a little message
I made my mind up by studying the pros and cons, not by reading the cons
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Sprout posted:Has anyone read their leaflet yet? I haven't
I'm sending mine back to tory headquarters freepost... I've included a little message
I made my mind up by studying the pros and cons, not by reading the cons