velvet donkey posted:Baz is twenty fourth in line Sprouty. But she keeps it quiet. Baroness Rothmere of Dorking
You know, I can well see that 
Baz posted:Ooooo I'd forgotten about our lovely , old type blue passports ......instead of the scrappy red ones we have now
..Felt.like.a.real.book.into.a.world.of.adventures.....
And it got stamped , eh 
Unsure atm
stay or leave won't make much difference as far as I can see it but one might get Nigel offa the tellybox quicker than the other 
Moonie posted:It would be easier to make up our minds, if we haven't already, if we had all the facts without the spin
There.will.always.be.spinners.......it.is.what.makes.the.world.go.round.....................unfortunately!.
Syd posted:Moonie posted:It would be easier to make up our minds, if we haven't already, if we had all the facts without the spin
There.will.always.be.spinners.......it.is.what.makes.the.world.go.round.....................unfortunately!.
So, how do we and I mean me in particular, sort the wheat from the chaff then Syd?
Moonie posted:Syd posted:Moonie posted:It would be easier to make up our minds, if we haven't already, if we had all the facts without the spin
There.will.always.be.spinners.......it.is.what.makes.the.world.go.round.....................unfortunately!.
So, how do we and I mean me in particular, sort the wheat from the chaff then Syd?
I.personally.hate.taking.sides......most.stories.have.two.sides......I.(personally).do.think.that.there.is.a.lot.wrong.in.the.world.at.the.moment.and.I.do.not.trust.any.party's.hand.in.dealing.with.it..............sad,but,true.....
Syd posted:Moonie posted:Syd posted:Moonie posted:It would be easier to make up our minds, if we haven't already, if we had all the facts without the spin
There.will.always.be.spinners.......it.is.what.makes.the.world.go.round.....................unfortunately!.
So, how do we and I mean me in particular, sort the wheat from the chaff then Syd?
I.personally.hate.taking.sides......most.stories.have.two.sides......I.(personally).do.think.that.there.is.a.lot.wrong.in.the.world.at.the.moment.and.I.do.not.trust.any.party's.hand.in.dealing.with.it..............sad,but,true.....
I don't think it's a matter of taking sides Syd. It's a matter of getting unbiased information so we, the general public, can make an informed decision on what will affect the rest of our lives, based on fact and not spin...
There's only one way to sort this out... 
It might come to that Rog
Sprout posted:It might come to that Rog
Roger the Alien posted:Sprout posted:It might come to that Rog
Boris looks as though he's got more meat on him
Syd posted:Moonie posted:Syd posted:Moonie posted:It would be easier to make up our minds, if we haven't already, if we had all the facts without the spin
There.will.always.be.spinners.......it.is.what.makes.the.world.go.round.....................unfortunately!.
So, how do we and I mean me in particular, sort the wheat from the chaff then Syd?
I.personally.hate.taking.sides......most.stories.have.two.sides......I.(personally).do.think.that.there.is.a.lot.wrong.in.the.world.at.the.moment.and.I.do.not.trust.any.party's.hand.in.dealing.with.it..............sad,but,true.....
Trouble is Moonie , that unless we read every document ever written on the subject, it is always going to be based on* spin* of one sort or another .
That's the problem Baz, each one having a different take on it. That's why I said we need clear and concise list of pros and cons (maybe written by someone who isn't involved in it? I dunno 
This is a real big, big decision for all of us
Sprout posted:Roger the Alien posted:Sprout posted:It might come to that Rog
Boris looks as though he's got more meat on him
Sprout posted:That's the problem Baz, each one having a different take on it. That's why I said we need clear and concise list of pros and cons (maybe written by someone who isn't involved in it? I dunno
why not do what I did and read about it...I'm ignoring any spin and voting on what I have read and weighed up myself. I'm not listening to any political crap on it...done and dusted in my head 
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Sprout posted:That's the problem Baz, each one having a different take on it. That's why I said we need clear and concise list of pros and cons (maybe written by someone who isn't involved in it? I dunno
why not do what I did and read about it...I'm ignoring any spin and voting on what I have read and weighed up myself. I'm not listening to any political crap on it...done and dusted in my head
Yes, but what are you reading ? The actual documents or a newspaper ?
Baz posted:Yes, but what are you reading ? The actual documents or a newspaper ?
nothing that a politician is spouting I never read mainstream news now, but the groups I'm in send links to various things...for and against for people to make their own mind up
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:Yes, but what are you reading ? The actual documents or a newspaper ?
nothing that a politician is spouting
I'm open to offers
Sprout posted:I'm open to offers
I'll put as many links as I can in here...for and against
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Sprout posted:I'm open to offers
I'll put as many links as I can in here...for and against
Whatever you think PM me if you want to, if that's better for you
From where I'm sitting it's the Scottish referendum all over again - just wearing different clothes!!
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Baz posted:I voted in the survey ages ago
Me too! The same day as you in fact
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Sprout posted:Baz posted:I voted in the survey ages ago
Me too! The same day as you in fact
I might have done too!
Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing posted:Sprout posted:Baz posted:I voted in the survey ages ago
Me too! The same day as you in fact
I might have done too!
You did along with others , but only Baz and me commented
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Yes Sprout, It's going to feel like 17 months.