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Of course they're now listening, people en mass are refusing to vote until live feed begins, no phone votes no $$$$$'s

Money talks

I will not vote until live feed is reinstaled, now there's a petition in waiting Wink
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Dean0MacDean0MacMember
Um... ENDEMOL have ALWAYS listened about the L.F... It's been CH4 who're the morons in this situation.

Endemol have been on OUR side the entire time, they're as p'd off w/ CH4 as us LOYAL BB viewers are and have been every time CH4 have taken matters into their own hands.

Let us not get it twisted as to who is to blame for this. It is not Endemol it is CH4.
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Prince_SophiaPrince_SophiaMember
quote:
Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
Um... ENDEMOL have ALWAYS listened about the L.F... It's been CH4 who're the morons in this situation.

Endemol have been on OUR side the entire time, they're as p'd off w/ CH4 as us LOYAL BB viewers are and have been every time CH4 have taken matters into their own hands.

Let us not get it twisted as to who is to blame for this. It is not Endemol it is CH4.
Who gets the phone vote money ENDEMOL or c4, i think you'll find that's ENDEMOL, if they lose dollas they'll put presure on c4 to re-install live feed ie DROP THE PRICE ffs
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Clearly the majority of viewers weren’t watching the LF.
BB gets 2 or 3 million viewers per night for the HL’s shows, it would seem only a teensy fraction of those were also watching LF – so even if every last one of the LF viewers boycotted voting I doubt it would make any difference to revenue.
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quote:
Originally posted by JasmineJ:
Clearly the majority of viewers weren’t watching the LF.
BB gets 2 or 3 million viewers per night for the HL’s shows, it would seem only a teensy fraction of those were also watching LF – so even if every last one of the LF viewers boycotted voting I doubt it would make any difference to revenue.


you are right, the live feed only averaged around 1 million viewers per day but that number fell as the cut the net feed, the freeviw feed, th e4 feed, the red button feed and the secret channel feed, however do remember that those 1 million were the ones who created the lut and whatm and such like threads on the forums and they were the ones first with the "did you see ?" or "its kicking off" threads that brought many many things to the attention of non lf watchers, it also exposed just how disgracefully biased the editing of the highlights shows were.
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Prince_SophiaPrince_SophiaMember
quote:
Originally posted by JasmineJ:
Clearly the majority of viewers weren’t watching the LF.
BB gets 2 or 3 million viewers per night for the HL’s shows, it would seem only a teensy fraction of those were also watching LF – so even if every last one of the LF viewers boycotted voting I doubt it would make any difference to revenue.
hmmm, how easily we think of money when live feed was aimed at those who in life for a couple of months in a year feel they're not alone and have a type of family to watch, you get me LIFES WORTH LIVING, then the money men get involved and the thought of actualy helping others not so lucky in life goes out of the window.
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P *Pesky-Pixie* (Guest)
quote:
Originally posted by JasmineJ:
Clearly the majority of viewers weren’t watching the LF.
BB gets 2 or 3 million viewers per night for the HL’s shows, it would seem only a teensy fraction of those were also watching LF – so even if every last one of the LF viewers boycotted voting I doubt it would make any difference to revenue.


I think it's the buzz factor of LF that gets peeps voting/watching....no sites are being updated...so no buzz = no votes/no viewers.

I don't think LF viewers boycotting is having much effect at all really...but the lack of 'buzz' created by LF is. They (C4) have done this to themselves.
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quote:
Originally posted by Crunchy Nuts:
What I don't understand about this no live feed business is that they're filming it anyways, so why not let us watch it? Confused

All that unseen footage that will go to waste because of it.

As they're filming it anyways, it will be virtually impossible for them to not make money by offering us viewers live feed. Surely?

Exactly, Crunchy, I've said the same all along Nod
They are having pay the camera crew and production bods anyway, they are already filming it 24/7 in order to cherry-pick the highlights - so how much more money would someone to operate the tweety bird noises cost?
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Dean0MacDean0MacMember
quote:
Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
quote:
Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
Um... ENDEMOL have ALWAYS listened about the L.F... It's been CH4 who're the morons in this situation.

Endemol have been on OUR side the entire time, they're as p'd off w/ CH4 as us LOYAL BB viewers are and have been every time CH4 have taken matters into their own hands.

Let us not get it twisted as to who is to blame for this. It is not Endemol it is CH4.
Who gets the phone vote money ENDEMOL or c4, i think you'll find that's ENDEMOL, if they lose dollas they'll put presure on c4 to re-install live feed ie DROP THE PRICE ffs


Endemol have always been on the viewers side. They are as incensed by CH4's cutting the LF as we were. They were in the process of stepping in before we began shouting this year, of course yes they realise it's diminishing revenue but with 41 OTHER Big Brothers around the world AND other projects, BBUK really doesn't make difference money wise for Endemol, them stepping up is for US not the ÂĢ.
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quote:
Originally posted by Demantoid:
quote:
Originally posted by Crunchy Nuts:
What I don't understand about this no live feed business is that they're filming it anyways, so why not let us watch it? Confused

All that unseen footage that will go to waste because of it.

As they're filming it anyways, it will be virtually impossible for them to not make money by offering us viewers live feed. Surely?

Exactly, Crunchy, I've said the same all along Nod
They are having pay the camera crew and production bods anyway, they are already filming it 24/7 in order to cherry-pick the highlights - so how much more money would someone to operate the tweety bird noises cost?


Maybe they are not filming 24/7 Ninja
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Prince_SophiaPrince_SophiaMember
quote:
Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
quote:
Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
quote:
Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
Um... ENDEMOL have ALWAYS listened about the L.F... It's been CH4 who're the morons in this situation.

Endemol have been on OUR side the entire time, they're as p'd off w/ CH4 as us LOYAL BB viewers are and have been every time CH4 have taken matters into their own hands.

Let us not get it twisted as to who is to blame for this. It is not Endemol it is CH4.
Who gets the phone vote money ENDEMOL or c4, i think you'll find that's ENDEMOL, if they lose dollas they'll put presure on c4 to re-install live feed ie DROP THE PRICE ffs


Endemol have always been on the viewers side. They are as incensed by CH4's cutting the LF as we were. They were in the process of stepping in before we began shouting this year, of course yes they realise it's diminishing revenue but with 41 OTHER Big Brothers around the world AND other projects, BBUK really doesn't make difference money wise for Endemol, them stepping up is for US not the ÂĢ.
Are yoiu mad, buisness is about collecting every penny they can get the evil hands on. srry pal but you raly are naive,,,
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Prince_SophiaPrince_SophiaMember
quote:
Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
quote:
Originally posted by JasmineJ:
Clearly the majority of viewers weren’t watching the LF.
BB gets 2 or 3 million viewers per night for the HL’s shows, it would seem only a teensy fraction of those were also watching LF – so even if every last one of the LF viewers boycotted voting I doubt it would make any difference to revenue.
hmmm, how easily we think of money when live feed was aimed at those who in life for a couple of months in a year feel they're not alone and have a type of family to watch, you get me LIFES WORTH LIVING, then the money men get involved and the thought of actualy helping others not so lucky in life goes out of the window.
More to the point THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING
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Prince_SophiaPrince_SophiaMember
quote:
Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
I just hope they aren't dangling LF as a carrot to get us to vote tonight! Disappointed
100% spot on and i bow to you, this is exactly what is going on, but you have to reverse your thought pattern, for them to say this shows how scared they are of loosing the phone vote, keep up the good work, don't vote and we will eventually get live feed back
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Dean0MacDean0MacMember
quote:
Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
Are yoiu mad, buisness is about collecting every penny they can get the evil hands on. srry pal but you raly are naive,,,


Not mad, I just know a teeny bit more on Endemol's side of this than others and I have explained it to several others, in several other threads. But I'll point it out, again.

  • Endemol have been on the viewers side, from day 1.

  • Endemol are as incensed by this, as the loyal BB viewers are. (BOTH in our defense and that of their revenue).

  • Endemol have not "ONLY JUST" decided to step in on this issue now they're realising CH4 have cocked up.

    They WARNED CH4 this would happen, they gave them a small benefit of the doubt because CH4 would not listen. They told CH4 they would step in if deemed necessary. They are now taking those measures...

    Whether it comes to anything, who knows? But it will be one of two things.

    1: We'll get LF back.

    2: BB will cease to exist midway through the series.
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    MrsBMrsBMember
    quote:
    Originally posted by Demantoid:
    quote:
    Originally posted by MrsB:
    Maybe they are not filming 24/7 Ninja

    Maybe not. Maybe the HMs are all tucked up in cosy hotel rooms when the cameras are off.
    Whatever, I am transfixed by that pic in your sig - was he playing 'hide the courgette' that night? Eeker Laugh


    I reckon they are all aware of what is going on anyway...none of them seemed at all put out by the lack of furniture, champagne, buffet etc that normally welcomes the HM on launch night Ninja

    My sig is fab, isn't it!!!!
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    Dean0MacDean0MacMember
    quote:
    Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:
    quote:
    Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
    I just hope they aren't dangling LF as a carrot to get us to vote tonight! Disappointed


    Believe me until I can actually physically see LF one way or another...my boycott continues! C4 fib! Nod Ninja


    CH4 have said nothing about Live Feed. ENDEMOL have demanded a meeting with CH4 about this issue.
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    Prince_SophiaPrince_SophiaMember
    quote:
    Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
    Are yoiu mad, buisness is about collecting every penny they can get the evil hands on. srry pal but you raly are naive,,,


    Not mad, I just know a teeny bit more on Endemol's side of this than others and I have explained it to several others, in several other threads. But I'll point it out, again.

  • Endemol have been on the viewers side, from day 1.

  • Endemol are as incensed by this, as the loyal BB viewers are. (BOTH in our defense and that of their revenue).

  • Endemol have not "ONLY JUST" decided to step in on this issue now they're realising CH4 have cocked up.

    They WARNED CH4 this would happen, they gave them a small benefit of the doubt because CH4 would not listen. They told CH4 they would step in if deemed necessary. They are now taking those measures...

    Whether it comes to anything, who knows? But it will be one of two things.

    1: We'll get LF back.

    2: BB will cease to exist midway through the series.
    • Dean by the way i called son number 2 Dean.....


    Now My son listen up


    have been on the viewers side, from day 1.


    Endemol are as incensed by this, as the loyal BB viewers are. (BOTH in our defense and that of their revenue).

    You say
    Endemol have been on the viewers side, from day 1.
    Response Edemol love money


    Endemol are as incensed by this, as the loyal BB viewers are. (BOTH in our defense and that of their revenue).
    Response Edemol love money



    Endemol have not "ONLY JUST" decided to step in on this issue now they're realising CH4 have cocked up.
    Response Edemol love money


    Stop making Endemol seem a caring institution they care about one thing, getting dollas for the shareholders...and by re-itroducing live feed it will not generate a PENNY for them.
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    P *Pesky-Pixie* (Guest)
    quote:
    Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
    CH4 have said nothing about Live Feed. ENDEMOL have demanded a meeting with CH4 about this issue.


    I know....but would it surprise you for C4 to announce they are in discussions about LF (and put a positive spin on the announcement) only to have no change in the LF situation.

    I don't trust C4 even if they did change their minds to actually produce the goods....for months we were told no decision had been made regarding LF....when the truth is the decision was made months if not years ago and they didn't have the back bone to tell us.

    I've read some stuff somewhere about Endemol doing a deal with an agency that does embedded advertising and that maybe part of the reason we have no LF too. GSK have done the deal with Enemol because of the type of advertising that is available...advertising that can only be used on-line....hence the having to go to C4 website.

    I think this is an Endemol and C4 issue myself.
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    Dean0MacDean0MacMember
    quote:
    Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
    Dean by the way i called son number 2 Dean......


    1: Please, do not talk down to me by calling me "My son" I have not disrespected you in any way and have listened to and respect your opinion, on the matter.

    2: You're evidently one of those who once they have a standpoint, they stick by it. More power to you but seriously, remove those blinkers.

    I've never once refused to accept that Endemol are a business, a corperation and are about "making money" - Not once. But the fact remains they are also doing it FOR US without us, they would not make that money. I am not blinkered or "one sided" on this topic.

    But there are many Endemol staff who are BB fans, as well. Although I'm sure you could probably have guessed that. - And I have also informed you that Endemol were in the process of shunting CH4 before we began shouting over this weekend because they had already previously warned them, this would happen.

    But you aren't listening to any of that. You are making them seem like nothing more than money hungry zealots as much as you claim I'm trying to make them seem a caring institution - As I said they actually ENJOY making the program, not just because it is a huge cash cow but despite the fact, it is a huge cash cow.

    I am not going to argue with you about this any longer, you've given your obviously thoughts/feelings and opinions on the matter and I've tried to inform you of things you've gotten wrong but you're refusing to even bother see it another way (which yes my comments have been facts not spin) even though I have agreed with you, on the money situation.

    Have a good day Smiler wavey
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
    Dean by the way i called son number 2 Dean......


    1: Please, do not talk down to me by calling me "My son" I have not disrespected you in any way and have listened to and respect your opinion, on the matter.


    dean, reread what you quoted, all she said was she called one of her sons dean, no insult.
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
    Dean by the way i called son number 2 Dean......


    1: Please, do not talk down to me by calling me "My son" I have not disrespected you in any way and have listened to and respect your opinion, on the matter.

    2: You're evidently one of those who once they have a standpoint, they stick by it. More power to you but seriously, remove those blinkers.

    I've never once refused to accept that Endemol are a business, a corperation and are about "making money" - Not once. But the fact remains they are also doing it FOR US without us, they would not make that money. I am not blinkered or "one sided" on this topic.

    But there are many Endemol staff who are BB fans, as well. Although I'm sure you could probably have guessed that. - And I have also informed you that Endemol were in the process of shunting CH4 before we began shouting over this weekend because they had already previously warned them, this would happen.

    But you aren't listening to any of that. You are making them seem like nothing more than money hungry zealots as much as you claim I'm trying to make them seem a caring institution - As I said they actually ENJOY making the program, not just because it is a huge cash cow but despite the fact, it is a huge cash cow.

    I am not going to argue with you about this any longer, you've given your obviously thoughts/feelings and opinions on the matter and I've tried to inform you of things you've gotten wrong but you're refusing to even bother see it another way (which yes my comments have been facts not spin) even though I have agreed with you, on the money situation.

    Have a good day Smiler wavey
    dean my son you are naive
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
    Dean by the way i called son number 2 Dean......


    1: Please, do not talk down to me by calling me "My son" I have not disrespected you in any way and have listened to and respect your opinion, on the matter.


    dean, reread what you quoted, all she said was she called one of her sons dean, no insult.


    Then went on to say "Now my son, listen up" I just couldn't be arsed to quote the entire post.
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Big Brothers Big Scam:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Dean0Mac:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Prince_Sophia:
    Dean by the way i called son number 2 Dean......


    1: Please, do not talk down to me by calling me "My son" I have not disrespected you in any way and have listened to and respect your opinion, on the matter.


    dean, reread what you quoted, all she said was she called one of her sons dean, no insult.


    Then went on to say "Now my son, listen up" I just couldn't be arsed to quote the entire post.


    ahh sorry.
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    ðŸ’ŊâĪïļðŸ˜‚🎉🙏ðŸĪ”😀ðŸ˜đ👍👎☝ïļðŸ‘ðŸ˜ŧ👀ðŸ‘ŋðŸ˜ĒðŸĪŠðŸĪĢ✅🙄ðŸĪ·ðŸ”Ĩ🏆📈ðŸĪŊ
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    Dean by the way i called son number 2 Dean......


    1: Please, do not talk down to me by calling me "My son" I have not disrespected you in any way and have listened to and respect your opinion, on the matter.


    dean, reread what you quoted, all she said was she called one of her sons dean, no insult.


    Then went on to say "Now my son, listen up" I just couldn't be arsed to quote the entire post.


    ahh sorry.
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    ðŸ’ŊâĪïļðŸ˜‚🎉🙏ðŸĪ”😀ðŸ˜đ👍👎☝ïļðŸ‘ðŸ˜ŧ👀ðŸ‘ŋðŸ˜ĒðŸĪŠðŸĪĢ✅🙄ðŸĪ·ðŸ”Ĩ🏆📈ðŸĪŊ
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    Channel 4 has today published the findings of a review commissioned by the channel’s board with a view to understanding what lessons could be learned from the reaction to the programme. The review has prompted Channel 4 management to take several initiatives including introducing a new intervention policy for Big Brother, bringing back a ‘right to reply’ style programme to Channel 4, appointing the channel’s first Viewers’ Editor and commissioning a major research programme into diversity in the UK.
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    ðŸ’ŊâĪïļðŸ˜‚🎉🙏ðŸĪ”😀ðŸ˜đ👍👎☝ïļðŸ‘ðŸ˜ŧ👀ðŸ‘ŋðŸ˜ĒðŸĪŠðŸĪĢ✅🙄ðŸĪ·ðŸ”Ĩ🏆📈ðŸĪŊ
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