Is anyone else watching the countdown as Liz approaches the finish line and overtake Victoria as longest reigning monarch?
| 1 | 20 June 1837 | 22 January 1901 | 63 years, 216 days | ||
| 2 | 6 February 1952 | Present | 63 years, 4 days |
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Do you know what date the record wil be broken EC?
it's a tad complicated Squiggle 
When will Queen Elizabeth II have reigned longer as British monarch than QueenVictoria?
The celebration marking the 60
th
anniversary of the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II inWestminster Abbey last week (June 4, 2013) made me wonder when exactly she will becomethe longest serving British monarch, overtaking the record presently held by Queen Victoria(can you tell I am a Victorianist). There are a few factors to be decided upon in making this judgement.Official Start TimeThe official beginning of the reign of a British monarch is the moment of the death of the previous monarch (as long as clear succession is obvious and accepted). For every Britishmonarchical changeover of the last two centuries, therefore, there have been two monarchson a single day
â
such as on June 20, 1837 when first William IV was king, died, andimmediately passed the monarchy to Victoria who became Queen. The date is not taken fromthe ceremonial coronation of the monarch, which generally occurs quite some time later.Victoria, for example, was crowned at her coronation on June 28, 1838, just over a year after
she became queen. Likewise, Queen Elizabeth IIâs coronation took place almost 16 months
after she had become queen.
Queen Victoriaâs reign
Victoria became queen, then, on June 20, 1837 and died as monarch on January 22, 1901.Taking first the full years, Victoria reigned for 63 full calendar years. She then also reigned
for a further 217 days, from June 20, 1900 until January 22, 1901 inclusive. Victoriaâs length
of reign is therefore 63 years and 217 days.
Queen Elizabeth IIâs reign
Elizabeth II became queen on the death of her father George VI on February 6, 1952. Hercoronation took place on June 2, 1953. Elizabeth will have reigned for 63 calendar years (thesame as Victoria) on February 5, 2015. A further 217 days will see Elizabeth II match the
length of Queen Victoriaâs reign. This will occur on
10 September, 2015. Therefore, it wouldseem to be on 11 September, 2015 that Queen Elizabeth II will become the longest servingBritish monarch (if she lives without abdicating until that date).However, there is one problem: leap years. Leap years were introduced with the Gregoriancalendar in the sixteenth century (but had been used before this). The last leap year was 2012;during the reign of Elizabeth II there have been 16 leap years (2012, 2008, 2004, 2000, 1996,1992, 1988, 1984, 1980, 1976, 1972, 1968, 1964, 1960, 1956, and 1952).
Victoriaâs reign included 15 leap years â
not including 1900 which was not a leap year as the beginning of centuries are only leap years if their numerical value is divisible by 400 (2000was a leap year, but there will not be another until 2400
). The leap years during Victoriaâs
reign were therefore 1896, 1892, 1888, 1884, 1880, 1876, 1872, 1868, 1864, 1860, 1856,1852, 1848, 1844, and 1840. To be particular, therefore, Elizabeth II has recorded one moreday (we might say specifically that this was February 29, 2000) than Victoria.We should therefore date her reign as longer on
September 10, 2015
.Until recently (that is until November 2014) there was little consensus or official rule on thequestion of the date at which the reign of Elizabeth II will become the longest in B
Originally Posted by squiggle:
Do you know what date the record wil be broken EC?
I've not read all of Dame's post, but it looks like it has a lot of info in it. 
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by squiggle:
Do you know what date the record wil be broken EC?
I've not read all of Dame's post, but it looks like it has a lot of info in it.
Copied and pasted EC I think the official date is indeed September 10th 2015..
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by squiggle:
Do you know what date the record wil be broken EC?
I've not read all of Dame's post, but it looks like it has a lot of info in it.
Copied and pasted EC I think the official date is indeed September 10th 2015..
I'm sure there will be a lot of publicity as it approaches. I've been keeping an occasional eye on the date for a while. 
Thanks for the date
Well done Dame Ann, I tried to have a think about when it would be but had to give up when my head started going 
you're welcome both
shes a good old chick our Queen is
crikey almighty! *bows down to Dame*
I love her maj, I think she's a great queen and she's looking very well. I hope she beats the record set by queen Victoria
I see they have released a new coin portrait this week.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Is anyone else watching the countdown as Liz approaches the finish line and overtake Victoria as longest reigning monarch?
| 1 | 20 June 1837 | 22 January 1901 | 63 years, 216 days | ||
| 2 | 6 February 1952 | Present | 63 years, 4 days |
As long as she doesn't do a Devon Loch
Originally Posted by pirate1111:
shes a good old chick our Queen is
Although I;m not against the idea of monarchy (it gives us a sense of identity and is a rich heritage) I'm not a fan of the current crop.
Our Queen has presided over a reckless family and failed to keep them under any sort of control.
They keep some very questionable friendships and are very, very lucky not to have single-handedly brought the British Monarchy to its knees re. The Diana debacle.
Originally Posted by Saint:
Although I;m not against the idea of monarchy (it gives us a sense of identity and is a rich heritage) I'm not a fan of the current crop.
Our Queen has presided over a reckless family and failed to keep them under any sort of control.
They keep some very questionable friendships and are very, very lucky not to have single-handedly brought the British Monarchy to its knees re. The Diana debacle.
I sort of agree with you there Renton me old chum..it's gone from being a duty to I'm alright jack 
My main concern with Elizabeth II is her failure to modernise.
She seems to hold onto the 'old way' the monarchy handle things ... by declining to comment and letting things just happen... in the hope that blind respect will pull things into line. But times have changed.
As such she's failed to take control of her country and lessened her families real influence bringing it perilously close to collapse.
Her own family haven't helped to say the least.
Originally Posted by velvet donkey:
Minimum wage for serfs disnae help.
she did modernise to a point and slipped back into to us and them,,,,,,,,,now we have a two tier country and there's more of us poor sods than them 
I thought it was t'Boomtown Rats who referenced a Banana Republic and they were talking about Ireland.
Much as though I'm old fashioned tribal Trade Union Labour I don't think the Queen has put a foot wrong and
Much as though I'm old fashioned tribal Trade Union Labour I don't think the Queen has put a foot wrong and
(Bugger this 'phone) .... And see a place for the Mornachy within a social democratic north European state.
If anyone has messed up the country it's the Thatcherites and their abstract laissez faire market economy and that Murdoch one who has excess influence for a foreigner.
Though to be fair, I'm not an expert.
If anyone has messed up the country it's the Thatcherites and their abstract laissez faire market economy and that Murdoch one who has excess influence for a foreigner.
Though to be fair, I'm not an expert.
Monarchy!
80 odd days to go.
Let the forelock-tugging commence
I'm expecting the full BBC Royal coverage machine to crank up in the coming weeks. This is an opportunity they are unlikely to miss.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
I'm expecting the full BBC Royal coverage machine to crank up in the coming weeks. This is an opportunity they are unlikely to miss.
Most of the media will be whipping themselves into a frenzy. My newspaper usually limits this type of story to one column inch on an inside page
And she's 90 next year......
Originally Posted by Sprout:
And she's 90 next year......
I noticed a piece on the British Broadcasting Corporation about the type of celebrations we may see for her 90th.
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
And she's 90 next year......
I noticed a piece on the British Broadcasting Corporation about the type of celebrations we may see for her 90th.
Do we get a bank holiday, that's all I'm interested about with that shower 