....what do they do about toilets?
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It's one of those questions you'll have us pondering on now Brisket 
Standing in the middle of that crowd in that huge square all day......there must come a point where bladders and bowels need attention. What do they do?
Same as anyone anywhere else I assume....move to the side and go or find a loo and use it....or go in a bottle.
I have been to only 1 football match in my life.
Not nearly as many people as in Cairo.
Yet my shoes were wet with wee and splashed with pee.
Makes sense Croc. I suppose I was thinking it looked impossible to move around inside that crowd.
Can I take this back to the revolution please? 
Has today resolved the situation towards a peaceful solution?
Reference: cologne
Can I take this back to the revolution please?
Certainly cologne. Reference:
Has today resolved the situation towards a peaceful solution?
I think President Mubarak's stubbornness may have angered the protestoers even more.He spent the first half of his statement blaming everybody else but himself.
He says he will not stand for re-election, but seems determined not to step down until the autumn.
I haven't heard an up-to-date news summary, but my guess is that the revolutionaries will not like what they hear.
Why would he want to stay? Megalomania I suppose.
they do a 'paula radcliffe'.......
Your are righ brisket, he says he won't stay for re election in September, that's very disingenous and most people in Egypt wont take that for an answer, so I expect the protest will go on.
There has been some violence today as anti-government protesters clash with Mubarak supporters.
The BBC's security expert Frank Gardner has been suggesting this could play into Mubarak's hands, as he will be able to say "Look you need me to stop this sort of trouble."
Gardner also suggests that Mubarak's people will be able to view footage of events and seek out and arrest many of those behind the protests.
The BBC's security expert Frank Gardner has been suggesting this could play into Mubarak's hands, as he will be able to say "Look you need me to stop this sort of trouble."
Gardner also suggests that Mubarak's people will be able to view footage of events and seek out and arrest many of those behind the protests.
The live broadcast on BBC news tells us that there is lots of stone-throwing.
Now gunfire has broken out.
The reporter, when asked, says he will remain in post for now, but may have to disappear suddenly if the need arises.
Another theory which is being suggested is that some of the civilians in the crowd are in fact plain clothes police. Yet another theory that the government allowed prisoners out of prison to do the government's bidding.
I hope free democratic elections will not throw up this sort of violence.
Much anger is because Mubarak is not going now.
Other reporters believe this violence is orchestrated from within the government.
Oh dear! The dirty tricks in politics.
Now gunfire has broken out.
The reporter, when asked, says he will remain in post for now, but may have to disappear suddenly if the need arises.
Another theory which is being suggested is that some of the civilians in the crowd are in fact plain clothes police. Yet another theory that the government allowed prisoners out of prison to do the government's bidding.
I hope free democratic elections will not throw up this sort of violence.
Much anger is because Mubarak is not going now.
Other reporters believe this violence is orchestrated from within the government.
Oh dear! The dirty tricks in politics.
Many more reporters and pundits now beloieve today's more aggressive actions have been craftily orchestrated by Mubarak.
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Many more reporters and pundits now beloieve today's more aggressive actions have been craftily orchestrated by Mubarak.
a fair few are saying he's paid them a substantial amount of money (similar to what he does when there is an election) to be 'pro Mubarak'.Terrible turn of events
Why did the soldiers let the opponents through, but checked the anti Mobarak. Who are the opponents? Some people say they may be police in normal clothes or they maybe whipped up workers, promised a certain amount of money and a chicken meal
These pictures are a collection of some of the best signs from the demonstrations.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538...rom-around-the-world
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538...rom-around-the-world
This is my favourite one.
A pro-Mubarak protester, surrounded by supporters, said something like "These poor people don't have our intelligence; they don't understand Mubarak has been good to us."
This was said by a man from the affluent part of town.
So much for democracy. A person who thinks poor people should not get a vote.
Many would say the poor people are poor because of the corrupt regime.
There has been some violence today as anti-government protesters clash with Mubarak supporters.
The BBC's security expert Frank Gardner has been suggesting this could play into Mubarak's hands, as he will be able to say "Look you need me to stop this sort of trouble."
Gardner also suggests that Mubarak's people will be able to view footage of events and seek out and arrest many of those behind the protests.
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brisket, it's been the policy of the north african dictators to try and spread panic anomst the population by warning of.. as gadaffi put it during the tunisian uprising .........'you'll all be murdered in your beds , you have made a terrible mistake, women and children will suffer'......
then the secret police come out and attempt to do exactly that, fortunately in tunisia they had the forsesight to set up local groups of vigilantes to stop the rulers henchmen and assorted thugs before they got going.
i hope the egyptians can defend themselves as well as the tunisians have, but looking at the news reports i seriously doubt it.
The BBC's security expert Frank Gardner has been suggesting this could play into Mubarak's hands, as he will be able to say "Look you need me to stop this sort of trouble."
Gardner also suggests that Mubarak's people will be able to view footage of events and seek out and arrest many of those behind the protests.
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brisket, it's been the policy of the north african dictators to try and spread panic anomst the population by warning of.. as gadaffi put it during the tunisian uprising .........'you'll all be murdered in your beds , you have made a terrible mistake, women and children will suffer'......
then the secret police come out and attempt to do exactly that, fortunately in tunisia they had the forsesight to set up local groups of vigilantes to stop the rulers henchmen and assorted thugs before they got going.
i hope the egyptians can defend themselves as well as the tunisians have, but looking at the news reports i seriously doubt it.
Thanks for that jackson. Good and true points.
The Vice-President, Omar Suleiman, is speaking on television.
He claims to need at least 70 days before any reforms can be contemplated.
He spoke of a plot to cause conflict which will be investigated.
Why is that it all feels lightweight and rather wishy-washy to me?
The Vice-President, Omar Suleiman, is speaking on television.
He claims to need at least 70 days before any reforms can be contemplated.
He spoke of a plot to cause conflict which will be investigated.
Why is that it all feels lightweight and rather wishy-washy to me?
....and why are foreign journalists being targetted?
The Vice-President, Omar Suleiman, has been interviewed.
Among other things he was asked about the voilent clashes when people died and horses and camels were allowed to charge into the square.
He denied it was anything to do with secret police or the government.
If he has held an investigation to discover evidence, then it was mighty quick.
Quickest investigation in history!
Methinks he was giving meaningless stock answers.
Another member of the ruling party (National Democratic Party) was highly indignant that any blame or even doubt should be attached to them. He put a lot of blame onto the western press.
My gut tells me not to believe these people.
Among other things he was asked about the voilent clashes when people died and horses and camels were allowed to charge into the square.
He denied it was anything to do with secret police or the government.
If he has held an investigation to discover evidence, then it was mighty quick.
Quickest investigation in history!
Methinks he was giving meaningless stock answers.
Another member of the ruling party (National Democratic Party) was highly indignant that any blame or even doubt should be attached to them. He put a lot of blame onto the western press.
My gut tells me not to believe these people.
Yes indeed Brisket. Dictators don't go without putting up a fight,I'll bet those "pro Mubarak" protesters were secret police/ corrupt cronies of him etc testing the resolve of the anti crowd.Looks like they can't go for an all out massacre as the West is watching keenly.Troubling times for Eygypt and the middle east.That Tunisian "Overlord" has buggered off to Saudi Arabia with a load of his countries wealth etc.I heard there are interpol warrants out for him and his family.I'll bet the Swiss banks and over seas banks are keeping schtum.It's outrageous.
How long will he (Murbarak)tolerate the *West* being informed of what is going on,no internet and now western journalists being attacked/detained.http://www.belfasttelegraph.co...-cairo-15073106.html
Some people might say this will play into Mubarak's hand, but really, the outcome should be that one man is holding on to some sort of power beyond the will of the people, he is supposed to hand over. Crap.
This may sound a touch romanticised.....but I watched a news report which included a brief image of a young Egyption youth listening to a speaker in Tahrir Square.
One of those pictures with impact. The hope in his eyes was almost tangible.
The latest (unconfirmed) reports say that Mubarak has resigned as leader of his party.
One of those pictures with impact. The hope in his eyes was almost tangible.
The latest (unconfirmed) reports say that Mubarak has resigned as leader of his party.
Wonderful! Wonderful.
There are reports that Mubarak will step down.
The military spokeman has said that Mubarak will meet protestors demands.
I think this is an amazing story.
A long way to go for Egyptian people and it won't be a smooth path. It is likely to be very complicated.
But I feel so privileged to have witnessed this.
Many will not believe it until it actually happens, so fingers remain crossed.
Nevertheless the last couple of weeks and today's news have been incredible.
There are reports that Mubarak will step down.
The military spokeman has said that Mubarak will meet protestors demands.
I think this is an amazing story.
A long way to go for Egyptian people and it won't be a smooth path. It is likely to be very complicated.
But I feel so privileged to have witnessed this.
Many will not believe it until it actually happens, so fingers remain crossed.
Nevertheless the last couple of weeks and today's news have been incredible.
Oh dear.....now the Information Minister is saying Mubarak will not step down.
But all other reports are saying Mubarak will go.
I hope the army don't take over - don't want a coup.
The majority are saying that the worst possible outcome would be for the deputy (Suleiman) to take over.
I hope the army don't take over - don't want a coup.
The majority are saying that the worst possible outcome would be for the deputy (Suleiman) to take over.
Reports that Mubarak has already left Egypt, and there will be a pre-recorded statement to the country in 2 hours time.
Now they are saying Mubarak is in his office in Cairo.
Now they are saying Mubarak is in his office in Cairo.
Many reports are now saying it could be an army take-over. Oh dear! That would be bad.
They're also saying that he could go to Germany because he's been having some treatment there but Germans are denying it
I really wanted to visit Egypt. I don't now.
I can't tell you how angry I am.
Mubarak has no self-awareness at all. He is totally delusional.
What a mealy mouthed speech that was!.
Not an ounce or a smidgeon of blame does he put on his own shoulders.
He blames foreigners, but not himself.
We saw before us what power can do. A power-crazed man. A megalomaniac who cannot be trusted.
What poor judgment on his part.
He has made the situation worse.
All the talk of love for his country is hollow talk.
Watching a power-ridden man in action is pathetic.
Mubarak has no self-awareness at all. He is totally delusional.
What a mealy mouthed speech that was!.
Not an ounce or a smidgeon of blame does he put on his own shoulders.
He blames foreigners, but not himself.
We saw before us what power can do. A power-crazed man. A megalomaniac who cannot be trusted.
What poor judgment on his part.
He has made the situation worse.
All the talk of love for his country is hollow talk.
Watching a power-ridden man in action is pathetic.
Both Mubarak and his deputy are ready to blame other countries - never blame themselves.
They make me think of pushy door-to-door salesmen. I don't trust them at all. I don't believe them.
They make me think of pushy door-to-door salesmen. I don't trust them at all. I don't believe them.
They make me think of pushy door-to-door salesmen. I don't trust them at all. I don't believe them.
That describes most politicians. Though this lot were a particularity bad bunch.
That describes most politicians. Though this lot were a particularity bad bunch.
Frank Gardner, the BBCs security correspondent says that the words of Mubarak and Soleiman were so very typical of a dying despot. He says they usually talk in those terms when things look desperate.