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Originally Posted by Roxan:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

this should be interesting cos this guy did the second autopsy on Caylee and will dispute what Dr G has said.

 

He's been involved in lots of high profile cases including Jonbenet Ramsey and I think I heard Anna Nichole Smith???? 

Wow really? That case was a total screw up!

Exactly Roxan 

FM
Originally Posted by Roxan:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

God these two old boys .........................so slow - it's gonna be like watching paint dry!

 

Wonder what he's got to say?

He's going to say manner of death cant be determined. Hopefully the jury will have nodded off by then, I know I will!

 Roxan, well they have up to now, why change their habits. 

 

This Doc has testified as an expert witness about 300 times at least! 

Ev (Peachy)

Reports from live court

 

Dr. Spitz thinks Dr. G should have opened Caylee's skull.

Spitz was given access to the remains after Dr. G and conducted his own autopsy on Caylee Anthony for the #CaseyAnthony case

Spitz did a second autopsy on #CayleeAnthony It happened at funeral home 

Spitz: I did not bring a saw bc I thought this autopsy was done, but it wasn't. He said exam of interior of head should've been done

George exiting courtroom.Cindy stays.

Now showing demo skull. A real skull.

(the tweeters in court are saying #CaseyAnthony is crying as Dr Spitz talks about his examination

 

CaseyAnthony cannot see this photo nor can Cindy. 

Jury showing big interest in this expert.

Dr. Spitz is explaining how the skull was positioned 

Mason asking if Spitz detected any problems in Dr. G's autopsy report on Caylee. Ashton objects. Overruled.

 

Spitz says when he opened the skull he found material which shows how #CayleeAnthony was laid there

 

He says her brain essentially disappears but the remnants show shevwas laid on her left side 

Ashton has objected to Spitz's testimony several times, calling it narrative. Perry lets Spitz keep explaining

CaseyAnthony Spitz, cause of death unknown. Tape on skull loosely.

 

 

 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Roxan:

I have a mental image of him singing "Dem bones"

 

 

 

I fail to see what opening the skull achieves???  there has been no indication that trauma to the head is a part in this.  Wouldn't the rain/water have washed any dust away?  The remains were there fore 6 months.

 

He seems to be suggesting that Dr G failed to complete a thorough autopsy, because she hadn't opened the skull.

Why would it matter, when there was no head injury?

Just trying to cast doubt on Dr G's professionalism, maybe?

Yogi19

Ashton objections getting shot down.

Dr Sptiz thinks the duct tape was placed after death and not before. 

There would be DNA on the duct tape if it were placed across the face.

 

The duct tape was"a later event".

Spitz says he has a strong feeling the duct tape was placed to hold lower jaw in place. 

 

My note now (Actually this is in line with what i think happened and have said all along) mentioned on the other thread.. 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Ashton objections getting shot down.

Dr Sptiz thinks the duct tape was placed after death and not before. 

There would be DNA on the duct tape if it were placed across the face.

 

The duct tape was"a later event".

Spitz says he has a strong feeling the duct tape was placed to hold lower jaw in place. 

 

My note now (Actually this is in line with what i think happened and have said all along) mentioned on the other thread.. 

Who do you think placed the duct tape onto Caylee's body, Ev?

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Ashton objections getting shot down.

Dr Sptiz thinks the duct tape was placed after death and not before. 

There would be DNA on the duct tape if it were placed across the face.

 

The duct tape was"a later event".

Spitz says he has a strong feeling the duct tape was placed to hold lower jaw in place. 

 

My note now (Actually this is in line with what i think happened and have said all along) mentioned on the other thread.. 

Who do you think placed the duct tape onto Caylee's body, Ev?

No one is 100% sure, i do think the Mother. I mentioned on the other thread why i think... in short  she chloroformed her child to get to sleep, it went wrong one time, the duct tape was used AFTER death to stop bodily fluids escaping, and this adds up with the jaw being held in place with the duct tape.

 

For me the most likely sinereo of them all unfortunately. 

 

I thought so at the beginning, and i feel now this is more likely than less 

 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Ashton objections getting shot down.

Dr Sptiz thinks the duct tape was placed after death and not before. 

There would be DNA on the duct tape if it were placed across the face.

 

The duct tape was"a later event".

Spitz says he has a strong feeling the duct tape was placed to hold lower jaw in place. 

 

My note now (Actually this is in line with what i think happened and have said all along) mentioned on the other thread.. 

Who do you think placed the duct tape onto Caylee's body, Ev?

No one is 100% sure, i do think the Mother. I mentioned on the other thread why i think... in short  she chloroformed her child to get to sleep, it went wrong one time, the duct tape was used AFTER death to stop bodily fluids escaping, and this adds up with the jaw being held in place with the duct tape.

 

For me the most likely sinereo of them all unfortunately. 

 

I thought so at the beginning, and i feel now this is more likely than less 

 

Ev - didn't he say after decomposition not death?

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Ashton objections getting shot down.

Dr Sptiz thinks the duct tape was placed after death and not before. 

There would be DNA on the duct tape if it were placed across the face.

 

The duct tape was"a later event".

Spitz says he has a strong feeling the duct tape was placed to hold lower jaw in place. 

 

My note now (Actually this is in line with what i think happened and have said all along) mentioned on the other thread.. 

Who do you think placed the duct tape onto Caylee's body, Ev?

No one is 100% sure, i do think the Mother. I mentioned on the other thread why i think... in short  she chloroformed her child to get to sleep, it went wrong one time, the duct tape was used AFTER death to stop bodily fluids escaping, and this adds up with the jaw being held in place with the duct tape.

 

For me the most likely sinereo of them all unfortunately. 

 

I thought so at the beginning, and i feel now this is more likely than less 

 

Okay, thanks Ev.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

If the duct tape had been put on at a much later date why was it so worn? why was there no DNA from the person who'd put it on? The tape had been there for months!

Someone had to put it on. 

 

Also we know the state contaminated this duct tape, So the item the state claim is the murder weapon was contaminated by the FBI.

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Ashton objections getting shot down.

Dr Sptiz thinks the duct tape was placed after death and not before. 

There would be DNA on the duct tape if it were placed across the face.

 

The duct tape was"a later event".

Spitz says he has a strong feeling the duct tape was placed to hold lower jaw in place. 

 

My note now (Actually this is in line with what i think happened and have said all along) mentioned on the other thread.. 

Who do you think placed the duct tape onto Caylee's body, Ev?

No one is 100% sure, i do think the Mother. I mentioned on the other thread why i think... in short  she chloroformed her child to get to sleep, it went wrong one time, the duct tape was used AFTER death to stop bodily fluids escaping, and this adds up with the jaw being held in place with the duct tape.

 

For me the most likely sinereo of them all unfortunately. 

 

I thought so at the beginning, and i feel now this is more likely than less 

 

Ev - didn't he say after decomposition not death?

He did Soozy. 

 

Why would duct tape be applied after the body had decomposed? 

Scotty
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Ashton objections getting shot down.

Dr Sptiz thinks the duct tape was placed after death and not before. 

There would be DNA on the duct tape if it were placed across the face.

 

The duct tape was"a later event".

Spitz says he has a strong feeling the duct tape was placed to hold lower jaw in place. 

 

My note now (Actually this is in line with what i think happened and have said all along) mentioned on the other thread.. 

Who do you think placed the duct tape onto Caylee's body, Ev?

No one is 100% sure, i do think the Mother. I mentioned on the other thread why i think... in short  she chloroformed her child to get to sleep, it went wrong one time, the duct tape was used AFTER death to stop bodily fluids escaping, and this adds up with the jaw being held in place with the duct tape.

 

For me the most likely sinereo of them all unfortunately. 

 

I thought so at the beginning, and i feel now this is more likely than less 

 

Ev - didn't he say after decomposition not death?

He said he would have problems with assertion tape placed prior to decomposition  Obviously decomposition starts after death. 

 

 Spitz says manner of death is undetermined & can't rule out an accidental death I would have expected DNA if tape placed across face.

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Ashton objections getting shot down.

Dr Sptiz thinks the duct tape was placed after death and not before. 

There would be DNA on the duct tape if it were placed across the face.

 

The duct tape was"a later event".

Spitz says he has a strong feeling the duct tape was placed to hold lower jaw in place. 

 

My note now (Actually this is in line with what i think happened and have said all along) mentioned on the other thread.. 

You`ve picked that up wrongly EV. He said he thinks the duct was placed after decompositon - not death. 

Scotty

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