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Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think both Jeff and the Judge are making it plain to the jury just what a plonker Baez is. This whole testimony is a waste of time IMO. 

I agree.  If as we believe she chloroformed her, then there won't be any blood   As we understand according to the State's evidence, she was bagged in black refuse sacks therefore, the biological material would have been in those not necessarily the car.

 

What is he trying to prove here - that the absence of blood means Casey didn't kill her child?

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think both Jeff and the Judge are making it plain to the jury just what a plonker Baez is. This whole testimony is a waste of time IMO. 

I agree.  If as we believe she chloroformed her, then there won't be any blood   As we understand according to the State's evidence, she was bagged in black refuse sacks therefore, the biological material would have been in those not necessarily the car.

 

What is he trying to prove here - that the absence of blood means Casey didn't kill her child?

The defense don't need to prove anything, its only the prosecution that has to do that. The defense just need one of the jury to say there is a slight reasonable doubt in any area. 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by machel:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I was wondering when the easel was gonna come out. My god he's making an utter fool of himself - incompetency simply oozes out of him!


perhaps this is her defence - mistrial because lawyer is too stupid to understand/defend her

If she is found guilty, she could certainly lodge an appeal, based on the lack of competency of her legal team.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

 

What is he trying to prove here - that the absence of blood means Casey didn't kill her child?

The defense don't need to prove anything, its only the prosecution that has to do that. The defense just need one of the jury to say there is a slight reasonable doubt in any area. 

I meant to say what's he trying to say here rather than prove 

 

 

I don't think he's doing a very good job of eliciting reasonable doubt in the minds of any of the jury - but he might send them to sleep 

 

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

 

What is he trying to prove here - that the absence of blood means Casey didn't kill her child?

The defense don't need to prove anything, its only the prosecution that has to do that. The defense just need one of the jury to say there is a slight reasonable doubt in any area. 

I meant to say what's he trying to say here rather than prove 

 

 

I don't think he's doing a very good job of eliciting reasonable doubt in the minds of any of the jury - but he might send them to sleep 

 

Juror number 6 has nodded off through the whole of the trial so far, on and off 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think both Jeff and the Judge are making it plain to the jury just what a plonker Baez is. This whole testimony is a waste of time IMO. 

I agree.  If as we believe she chloroformed her, then there won't be any blood   As we understand according to the State's evidence, she was bagged in black refuse sacks therefore, the biological material would have been in those not necessarily the car.

 

What is he trying to prove here - that the absence of blood means Casey didn't kill her child?

The defense don't need to prove anything, its only the prosecution that has to do that. The defense just need one of the jury to say there is a slight reasonable doubt in any area. 

True, the defense don`t have to prove anything but after their opening statement they`re going to have to. They stupidly put the ball in their own court. 

 

 

 

Scotty
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

 

I don't think he's doing a very good job of eliciting reasonable doubt in the minds of any of the jury - but he might send them to sleep 

 

Juror number 6 has nodded off through the whole of the trial so far, on and off 

Mistrial 

 

 

 

Oh dear JP is a tad angry with both Bozo and Mr Ashton 

FM
Originally Posted by Scotty:

The defense don't need to prove anything, its only the prosecution that has to do that. The defense just need one of the jury to say there is a slight reasonable doubt in any area. 

True,the defense don`t have to prove anything but after their opening statement they`re going to have to. They stupidly put the ball in their own court. 

 

 

 

that's the point Bill Schaeffer (sp) on WFTV keeps making 

 

 

I iz playing with pretty colours 

FM
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

I think both Jeff and the Judge are making it plain to the jury just what a plonker Baez is. This whole testimony is a waste of time IMO. 

I agree.  If as we believe she chloroformed her, then there won't be any blood   As we understand according to the State's evidence, she was bagged in black refuse sacks therefore, the biological material would have been in those not necessarily the car.

 

What is he trying to prove here - that the absence of blood means Casey didn't kill her child?

The defense don't need to prove anything, its only the prosecution that has to do that. The defense just need one of the jury to say there is a slight reasonable doubt in any area. 

True, the defense don`t have to prove anything but after their opening statement they`re going to have to. They stupidly put the ball in their own court. 

 

 

 

But that's as it stands, they don't need to prove anything. The Jury know this. I also think the prosecution have left a lot of questions unanswered. Like Roy Kronk for example not coming to the stand, and from a Jurors point of view, they should want to know everything. 

 

I also think the defense are not doing the best job, far from it up to now, but if there is any sort of reasonable doubt and i think there is, and we will see what the jury think in time. 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Scotty:

The defense don't need to prove anything, its only the prosecution that has to do that. The defense just need one of the jury to say there is a slight reasonable doubt in any area. 

True,the defense don`t have to prove anything but after their opening statement they`re going to have to. They stupidly put the ball in their own court. 

 

 

 

that's the point Bill Schaeffer (sp) on WFTV keeps making 

 

 

I iz playing with pretty colours 

  

 

I`m bestest pals with Bill. 

Scotty
Originally Posted by Roxan:


The prosecution didnt bring Kronk to the stand, and also a couple of other witnesses, to try to force defence to get Casey to testify, since they were going to bring evidence into the case that cant be raised by defence unless by Casey or else it will be heresay.

 

Having said that I also think this is a very hard case for the prosecution to prove beyond all reasonable doubt.

 From a jurors point of view, they would want him on he stand, and im sure they would want to see her on as  well. But i gather the defense are bringing him in anyway? 

 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:

Is WFTV playing up for anyone else?

I do find there are gaps in the transmission but I like it the best.  I know cnn does a good broadcast and WESH but they don't have Bill Shaeffer's expertise which is why I stay with WFTV 

 

 

members of the jury please disregard the testimony of the witness on the last object 

FM

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