He is a former Judge on there is it not? he is good, but he will be also going through what the defence say soon as well.

Yes it is best if we boringly go through the formalities of the trial first. lol

Defence may throw a few things up *as well as Baez's heed* who knows.

Bill Sheaffer the judge you mention ^^^^^^ who does the talking on WFTV has described the case by the defence as 'inane' ................I really couldn't agree more - it's beyond ludicrous. I'm actually cringing at the thought of how this will unravel.

Sure.

Still we must have trials, we can't get straight to the end result without going through everything. Its ludicrous to suggest otherwise seriously.

As i have mentioned the defence is still yet to hold their key case in chief.

what pisses me off is that he was saying today, whatever the outcome there will be an appeal. So now the defence may just be setting good grounds for an appeal. Sort of makes a mockery of it all. Furthermore he was saying something about new laws that could make it possible for casey to get a whole NEW trial ( i wasn't properly listening to that bit so dont remember the ins and outs).  I feel a bit like whatever happens this doesnt count and she knows this will go on and on and on for years.

i really couldn't do this all again! I'm losing my life and friends ................probably my husband too 

Just how many lives is that witch gonna ruin before she gets her comeuppance?

I think they appeal in most cases. However heinous other crimes in the past are as well, say for instance a serial paedophile killer. It can be very frustrating to family and people watching avidly.

Who knows for definite, even if she does get the death penalty, she could be there for years and still eventually not get it. It could go to so many speculative ways. There are so many ways it could go, we can never say for sure.  Thats why learning about trials and courts is so interesting, even when we think they are unfair.

And what do you honestly think they can come up with? I honestly can't think of anything that can dispute the stench, the duct tape, the lies, the computer searches, the entymologists report and just about everything else.

I'll be gobsmacked if the defence can offer any sort of plausible evidence that can discount what has very cleverly been laid out in an order that is not only comprehensible but 100% believable.

Baez - unfortunately for him is working with a consumate liar - who really isn't that good IMO.

As i have said who knows what they will do when they take their case in chief.

IMO .............the only way out is on a technicality. I hope/think Judge Perry has presided very wisely. I guess we'll have to wait and see ................personally I think Baez is a walking calamity and I really don't think he'll pull anything out of the bag.

Who knows - he may surprise us, somehow I really doubt it - he's a chancer out to make big bucks on the back of this win or lose IMO.

just bringing this back to the top

thanks roxan, well worth two cents

Brilliant roxane I think that Dr G has been my favorite witness so far. She was great and that bozo couldnt get one over on her!

I agree Gyps. Her testimony was initially scientific but when pushed by Cheney Mason ( big mistake by him) he let her open the doors to... Who would put duct tape over the mouth of a child after they were dead. Who wouldn`t phone 911 if it was an accidental death by drowning or by any other means?  Who would put their child`s body in bags and dump them in the woods if it was an accidental death? Who would behave the way Casey did (for 31 days) if it was an accidental death?  It all points to homicide...red flags"

Powerful stuff. 

Nothing adds up. Nothing! 

Great post Roxan! 

Dr G was great ..............it really doesn't take an expert to say all that - it is surely common sense and what almost everyone else is thinking.

The fact that it was delivered by an 'expert' and the fact that she refused to be beaten down by Baez made it all the more powerful ............I'm sure most (if not all) the jurors felt reassured that an expert was seeing it just the same as them.

Good stuff IMO 

I'm still not following this trial but I wonder with it being televised it's now becoming "entertainment" .maybe the lawyers etc are "showboating ",thinking they are on "law and order" etc? Maybe we are better off in this country with no TV in courts.

I think it's quite common in the States for Lawyers and 'expert' witnesses to become celebrities. I'm finding the case morbidly fascinating ............not really sure I'd want to see the whole circus in this country TBH. And yes .......................horrible as it is - it is entertainment ..............I'm sure the News stations are battling it out in the ratings war.

Maybe Soozy..not getting at anyone on here by the way! I just find the American courts a bit strange.Though we do have Norris and Mary in Corrie taking their packed lunch to Fiz's court appearance in Corrie.

Only in Florida, where criminal justice can be a spectator sport, are Disney World passes the back-up option.  

I was a bit surprised to find Sky news mentioning about Caylee's bones being chewed by animals 

Toddler Caylee's Bones 'Chewed By Animals: Sally Arthy, US news editor

 

The bones of a two-year-old girl, whose mother is accused of murdering her, showed signs of having been chewed by animals when they were found, a court has heard.

The gruesome evidence came in testimony from a professor of anthropology, who helped recover most of the bones, at the trial of Casey Anthony in Orlando.

Anthony has been charged with the first-degree murder of her toddler Caylee.

Prosecutors claim the 25-year-old used duct tape to suffocate the child.

But the defence argues Caylee accidentally drowned in her grandparents' swimming pool in the summer of 2008.

Caylee's remains were found in December that year in woodland near her home, almost six months after she was last seen by her grandparents.

Jurors have been shown photos of the youngster's decomposed skull.

 

 

Caylee Anthony vanished in June 2008

 

 

Professor John Schultz told the jury how a team of forensics officers searched woodland, marking with tiny flags the locations where Casey's remains were found.

As he spoke about a bone which he said showed signs of having been "chewed on by an animal," Casey appeared to slump toward one of her lawyers, who wrapped an arm around her.

Forensics scientists testified earlier this week that high levels of chloroform were found in Anthony's car. Chloroform is a chemical associated with human decomposition.

The compound can also be used to render a person unconscious.

Prosecutors have said previously that an internet search on chloroform was conducted on a computer found in Anthony's home.

 

 

Casey Anthony denies murdering her daughter

 

 

Under cross-examination, defence attorney Jose Baez pointed out that though there were two user-created accounts on Anthony's desktop, that did not mean someone else could have used the computer for the chloroform searches.

The trial has gripped the US and live coverage is being broadcast from the hearing.

Police had to break up a scuffle on Friday among members of the public waiting for a chance to get a seat in the courtroom to watch the murder trial unfold in person.

More than 100 people had queued for hours outside the Orange County Courthouse, some since 1am in the morning.

One woman was hurt in the stampede when the court opened.

 

Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

Only in Florida, where criminal justice can be a spectator sport, are Disney World passes the back-up option.  

Tries not to take offence.

 

BTW it's not just Florida.

The joke was The Florida Disney world connection. 

The joke referring to the trials being like a reality tv program, as in the entertainment circus that has gone on in the last few days on the news, regarding the scuffles of the public

This  >Only in Florida, where criminal justice can be a spectator sport, are Disney World passes the back-up option< is Also mentioned in this news link so no need to take offence. http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CR...anthony.trial.crowd/

http://www.google.com/hostedne...4e43943be655872166a0

Ready jurors !!! lunch and asda then time to sit back and judge others.... my favorite

Juror Woo reporting for duty 

Hi fellow jurors 

Good afternoon Soozy and all gaga jurors    

Afternoon gaga Jury. 

Please madam foreperson - I can only be in attendance for one hour before I have to depart to go to my Latin Lesson    I should be back after 7ish 

you are excused only if you can recite all jurors names

I can't understand why he's doing this - is he trying to look clever - or is he trying to confuse the jury?

but someone forgot to colour in his pictures 

Seriously what is the point of all this?

The jury isn't in at the moment. So say the reporters there. They are saying they have to go through all this again for the jury today. 

unfair prejudice because he couldn't get an independent study

JP is a bit ticked off with him 

Baez wants this PowerPoint thrown out. He says it was designed for this case & it's not accurate to compare hairs found in diff. regions. He says conditions used to study hair in the presentation are different from conditions that would have existed in Florida.

Judge asking questions about when the state got these photos and if they were in colour or black and white. Shaw says initially when he emailed them they  were colour. 

Jury still out. 

Just deliberating whether these photos are to be accepted into evidence, Judge looks bemused, and irritated. 

If the prosecution don't get this through - do you think it'll make much difference?

I shouldn't think it will harm their case up to now.

They are now starting to wrap up their final arguments for their case, and may be finished by the end of the week. 

Judge Perry overruling, and won't allow this photo evidence, this hair study.  The court will not permit them he says.Judge Perry rules in favor of defense, Says powerpoint can NOT be used..state was obliged to get it to defense, and they did not in this instance. 

TBH - when I look at those pics they mean nothing to me. I think the jury may be the same. Not sure that they've lost a lot - they can still talk about it.

I don`t think it makes any difference. The jury are still hearing the evidence. 

Casey has a terrible sneering expression. 

I see her looking bored and distant so much of the time, as if she isn't really considering or sometimes bothered ! what is at stake. Its all quite surreal watching her. 

I did get to watch her the other day when she couldn't face the photo's of the remains of her daughter, and court had to adjourn early for the day. 

I hate to say it but - Baez isn't doing too bad a job of this cross examination - best one yet (so far) - still time for him to slip up