Not alot adds up with Cindy Col..I think the apple does'nt fall far from the tree with her and her daughter....

Soozy, I'd be over to my daughter's house after a couple of days. My grandchildren (from my daughter) are now 16 and almost 14, but there is no way I'd lose track of them for more than a couple of days.

I'm not looking for a nark at all ................they assumed their daughter was taking care of the grand daughter - why would they think she was missing? I guess we really aren't seeing it the same way at all. Why would Cindy Anthony lie? I can see (only because the defense have put him in the frame) why you might assume George is lieing but why would Cindy lie? There is no doubt in my mind that she adored her grand daughter and also loved(s) her daughter too. That message on My space simply bears it out IMO - her heart was breaking (not because she knew her grand daughter was dead) but because her daughter had simply walked ot - given no indication of where she was and hadn't been home for weeks.

She didn't know where they were!

Although at this point it was evident that she'd stolen a lot of money from the grand parents.

The thing is Soozy we all have different points of view. Some of us are adamant that certain things are true. beyond reasonable doubt, we think this.

We can't change people's minds.

I do find it hard to understand why they took 32 days to alert police, but happily alerted police over gas cans. Not that makes her love her children any less.......

I dont think the Mother is guilty, i may be wrong, she isnt standing trial. The defence will put the blame anywhere but Casey, so IF they can get the jury to have ANY reasonable doubt she will be acquitted.

I have to agree. She said the 'nanny' cost $400 per week. That's downright ridiculous, especially as she wasn't working. How can nobody around her lose sight of the fact that she was living this huge lie? Maybe I'm naive, but my daughter went west a few years ago for a couple of months and I sniffed that out practically from day one and fought the people around her until she got back to the way of life she felt comfortable with. I always thought that was the normal way families dealt with problems, but I must be wrong.

Got to go lovely peeps

Catch you later

I'm of the same frame of mind as Soozy.... I don't think Cindy knew/knows anything and she totally loved her granddaughter. 

When we have children we believe in them, trust them that they are telling us the truth, believe they are what we expect of them and I think Cindy believed and trusted her daughter.... We want to feel that in our children, they are totally honest in what they are telling us and sometimes the obvious doesn't hit us in the face. 

Because Casey is very very Clever. She faked ID for Universal studios, to name only one thing she faked, it was gobsmacking. 

She is extremely clever Ev, the lies were very convincing, especially to a family/mother who loved and trusted her. 

Well my children and I must be super close cos I know at a thousand paces if they are'nt being truely honest with me....

Same here stonksy. My daughter tries now and again and I just look at her and she caves in.

I find both defence and prosecution have been quite lenient on all the witnesses so far....

that's what I thought Stonks 

I'm not being funny but ...............my mum would say exactly the same ........................I've never felt the need to put her right. I'm very close to my own children (they are adults 31,29 and 28) now. I really don't kid myself that they've never misled me .................nothing in the realms of 'caseys world' but I'd be kidding myself if I honestly thought that they'd never told a porky or two. As teenagers we all do it don't we?

I may well be wrong.

 I wish I could say that with certainty

Soozy, nobody is saying that we know absolutely everything about our grown up children. I think the trend is that we would know if something was wrong, not even as serious as your grandchild missing, just things wrong. So why did the grandparents not raise some sort of alarm. Wouldn't you if you're daughter or daughter in law kept fobbing you off?

I can cos they are crap liars..all liars are crap liars thats how we know about lies....

In this instance I honestly don't think so. There were issues .............money had gone missing and the daughter took off. As far as the mother (grandmother) was concerned all was well ...........her daughter spoke on the phone and gave 'plausible' lies. Obviously it would be heartbreaking not seeing your grandchild for 31 days but ...............there were obviously some problems there and the mother (grandnother) was giving her 'adult' daughter some space .....................there really was no reason in her mind to call the police - she was simply hurt that her daughter had chosen to put some distance between them (as her My Space blog shows). It was only when she realised that she was being lied to that she set about sorting it out.

31 days is a long time I agree but Casey was very convincing with her lies. Of course if I didn't see my grand kids for that length of time I'd be distraught but .............I wouldn't see it as a Police matter TBH.

You don't have to seek police help..you go look yourself or phone and ask to speak to the child or ask others..have you seen them?..do they look well? does Caylee look happy?....

We have to agree to disagree. I am babysitting a nearly 14 year old tomorrow, so, I'm off to bed.

Last post.

That's what I would do, calling all her mates, facebook, school, everything. My grandchildren are as important as my children.

Zactly Col, its not rocket science....

Cindy alerted the police after 31 because that was the day she recognised the odour in the car,knew something was far wrong and was finally able to track Casey down,dragged her home and after much interrogation by Cindy and Lee, she told them Caylee had been kidnapped by the Nanny.  

Before that, Cindy was frustrated and annoyed during many many communications with Casey over that period of time, trying to find out what was going on, when were they coming home? etc. Cindy wasn`t happy but why would she contact the police? She believed what Casey was telling her: Casey was in Jacksonville,she was at a 5 day conference,the nanny had been in car crash, she was working out of town,Caylee was with the nanny, Caylee had been to the park, the zoo, Caylee was happy,they were both staying with nanny and all the other bollox too numerous to mention

Cindy felt no need to alert the police before she did. She believed Casey`s lies.

I can see why, with the benefit of hindsight and knowing the child was already dead in the time frame being discussed, that people would wonder why the grandmother didn't report the kid missing to the police earlier.. .but at the time there was no indication the child was dead or missing so it could be that after a bad argument that can sometimes happen between parents and children the grandmum was trying to get her Daughter to return home and bring the kid back with her . .maybe she was thinking that she was being punished by her daughter for said argument and not being allowed access to her grandchild as can often happen to grandparents when their own kids are annoyed with them..

I mean who would think to call the police on their kids if there was already maybe a valid reason to believe the kid was ok just being withheld form the grandparents in a fit of pique perhaps?

dunno if I've explained myself properly there but if a mate [am not a grandmum myself]  was having problems getting access to their grandkids after previously having had full on and good access I'd not immediately think oooooh kid is dead/murdered/kidnapped and advise the mate to call the cops, I'd be suggesting said friend tried to mend fences to gain access again..  and seems she did try to maintain contact to build bridges until she then realised things were wrong when the whiffy car turned up.. after all at that time they had no reason to think anything dodgy had happened..

I think I have confused myself now

Your post was not confusing, Olly.

The reasons you give for Cindy's delay in reporting Caylee missing, seem perfectly reasonable to me.

i haven't spoken to my parents for nearly 5 years, i have 3 children with only one at home now, they wouldn't think it unusual not to see/hear from their granddaughter, so i can understand from where the grandmother is coming from

glad it made sense to somebody. .half the time when I type something I miss out a lot of my thought process so what may make sense to me may not to anybody else.. 

Made sense to me Olly - I'm of the same opinion TBH.

On a slightly lighter note - am I alone in thinking that George Anthony is the spitting image of Lou Carpenter (Neighbours several years ago)?

Now that you mention it, there is a resemblance.

I've not watched any of the feed so couldn't say who the guy looks like.. I didn't; want to get sucked into the live feed thing.. spent all last summer walking around with a blue tooth ear piece listening to them Bb twatty contestants whaffling on. .felt weird not having voices in my ear when it all finished :

and am glad I made sense to a few peeps

Totally agree, Mother (Casey), had the upper hand being the child's Mother (The threatening card towards the Grandparents), Grandmother (Cindy) was stuck between a rock and a hard place....demand they come home (and being seen to be demanding) and alienate her daughter altogether... or trust her daughter to look after Caylee and come home eventually.........(I think)

I have looked at it today and found it plausible that the Grandmother did nothing wrong other than trusting her daughter.

She would have  been slightly out of the norm to go to worst case scenario immediately,to think the child was killed/hurt/dead surely? 

At what day would it have been acceptable for her to start to think along the lines of granddaughter is missing / dead? 

The grandmother did not had the upper hand, totally agree with Syd's point about being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Okay Ive spend the day reading this, no really the WHOLE DAY and this is my thoughts... and as i am always right then there really is no need to carry on talking about it and therefore i can go back to enjoying my summer, which like soozy, i was glad to have BB free for once

I think she did it, I dont even want to keep an open mind, she has to be as guilty as hell. Nobody changes their story that much to cover up quite an innocent accident as drowning by mistake. Why make up worse worse lies than the truth? Mental!

I think she surrounded herself with young upwardly mobile people, young poeple who partied and had a good future in front of them. In her eyes she didnt, she was stuck with a kid, no job, no money and no home of her own. So she lied to try and fit in, probably hoping to stick with one of the blokes and by default get that life she wanted. A kid really messed up this plan. I think she may have sedated her, to keep her out of the way , or actually killed her in cold blood. Im not ruling out either. If it wasnt cold blood then i fail to see how she could have been out drinking and dancing, laughing and having her picture taken. If it were an accident she would have been distraught over the death.

The dad, he really doesnt make sense in my head, Something is not right there but i cant decide what. I can convince myself hes totally innocent, then i swing to totally guilty then i swing to a middle ground where he knew his grandaughter was dead and was trying to protect the daughter.

The daughter is a nasty piece of work, but i dont think shes mentally ill. I think shes a cold, heartless woman who feels she should have a much better life than she had and is determined to try and get it, nomatter what.

CASE CLOSED.... and back to summer

*joke, this trial feels like its going to get very very interesting*

also wanted to ask why everyone is saying this stuff about the dad chucking a plastic bag over a wall? When in the thread below that ev  has posted with the daily blogs of the case there is this quote from Mr Birch the tow yard manager - 

The tow-yard manager, Mr. Birch, suggested they open the trunk and he noted that they were both standing side-by-side. The odor that came out of the trunk was even stronger, and a few flies flew out. Inside they found a standard white garbage bag. No other items were in there. One of them suggested they look in the bag to see if the origin of the smell was there. The prosecutor asked what Mr. Birch remembered seeing in the bag, and he remembered a pizza box and papers, he said it was very light and there were no food items. There was nothing in the bag that would have created that smell. Mr. Birch offered to dispose of it for George Anthony and threw it in the dumpster.

later when george anthony is questioned about this he confirms it by saying -

He opened the trunk, and saw a white garbage bag, he could see through the light colored plastic that there was a Pizza box, he could see “Arm & Hammer,” and maggots. The manager pulled it out and tossed the bag away.

So what wall is everyone on about? is there more than one plastic bag?

http://talk.gagajoyjoy.com/dis...6348051157101/page/2

bag for life??

As far as I know Gypsie, there`s only one wall (tow-yard wall) and one plastic bag involved in the case, but I could be wrong.  

Ev posted somewhere on here that George had thrown Caylee over a wall in a white plastic bag.

I replied that what was thrown over the wall by George was a white plastic bag filled with rubbish taken from the trunk of Casey`s car at the tow-yard. 

My mistake, it was Mr. Birch who threw it over the wall.

Maybe Ev was saying George threw Caylee over a different wall in a different white plastic bag. I don`t know.

It`s the first time I`ve heard that story. 

Hope that`s cleared things up for you.    

I dont get any of it??

I'm not surprised, Zazz.

Casey has told so many lies to so many people, it is going to be very hard to find the truth in this case.