I think they want tea and cakes with Yuri as well

They are saying "Yuri was lovely, wasn't he?" *sighs*

And who can blame them?

I must stop this, I am a happily married woman.

Goodnight Roxan.

See you laterz Night xx 

No trial tomorrow, closing arguments on Sunday.

So they are Sundaying and not Saturdaying?

He is a great host and would put on a great spread..BUT.. I would forwarn him as to your objectives..(Wink) ..(I am on explorer at the moment so have to Wink without a smile) 

They are trying to confuse us.

Nooo, don't warn him off - we'll be good, I promise.

sooo see yaw'll on monday, ayyyy emmmm ? xx

Aren't you going to be here on Sunday for closing arguments, Gyps?

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh are we working sunday oh my god, could that be any better!!!!! sunday, daytime drinking and closing arguments !!!  I will!

No trial tomorrow, to give the lawyers time to prepare their closing arguments.

Judge is getting angry!

Judge Perry just asked Cheney Mason if they were going to call Miss Anthony up. Mason said no we're not.

Sounds like defense thought about putting Cindy back up. Decided not to.

Perry lets jury go. Return Sunday at 9 a.m for closing arguments. 

Mason renews recent mistrial motion re death penalty

Judge immediately denies before Mason finishes. 

Mason presenting his mistrial motions.

Sad misunderstood face..........

I did'nt do it....statement.....

Renewed motion for judgement of acquittal is denied.

Really looking forward to sunday its going to be great

I heard Bozo mutter under his breath "travesty of justice".

Not sure if he was referring to the other case which JP and Mason were discussing, or Casey's case.

It's going to be an interesting day.

Off for a long soak in the bath and then bed.

night yogi and everyone, see you sunday

nite all,  still cannot believe that a Mother is allowed to sit and say nothing about her daughters death..just allowed to shuffle papers, tell tales, and look with disdain at people trying to find the answers...

Night gaga jury , i  think i need a break as well  

been following you all following the trial.. what am I gonna read when it finishes

just curious if any of you have made a judgement based only on what the Jurors were allowed to hear not including all the background stuff they were kept from and if so would your verdict be different?

Only watched one day of streaming cos I didn't want to get hooked. .was painting and didn't need diversions... but a much as Casey looks like a girl who needs a good slap I still can't look at somebody who is alive and say right I am going to define the date you die now by bringing in a guilty verdict with the death penalty.. 

I know I've not followed it as much as you lot and have not read much of the non trial stuff but I get the feeling it wasn't premeditated  murder. .I think she was annoyed she couldn't find a baby sitter and wanted to go out that night so maybe used chloroform to get Casey to sleep and hid her in the boot of the car  while she went out and partied . .if she left her in the back seat somebody may have spotted her and called the police...only to come back and find Caylee was dead.. then went into 'shit I've gotta cover this up' mode so invented the 'she's with the nanny story' and I'm living with so and so atm.. then it snowballed as she couldn't hide it  [the fact Caylee was not with her]  from her family once they finally found her.. 

I may be completely off track here as I'm only going on bits I've picked up here and there... and as awful as Casey is I think she should be found guilty but of a lesser offence.. thankfully you can't give the death penalty just cos a defendant has a slappable face and a dodgy personality.. 

thanks for giving me loads to read on a daily basis guys...

Hi Olly.

I've tried to make my judgement based on everything I have seen in the trial, including the stuff the jury didn't see. Only because it was impossible for me to ignore the information once I had seen/heard it - if you know what I mean?

I think Casey is guilty of murdering her daughter - the chloroform, use of duct tape and searches for neck breaking prevent me from believing it was an accident, not to mention her behaviour following Caylee's death.

IMO, Casey is a manipulative, pathological liar and has mental health issues - she shows traits which might indicate she is a sociopath.

As far as I know there is no known cure for sociopathy so I want to see her get a very, very  long jail sentence. I don't particularly want to see her get the Death Penalty.

Glad the thread kept your interest.

Did you ever get to see the gorgeous Yuri Melich? - he is lush.

Hi Olly

I have swayed back in forth in my thinking. my initial thoughts were she was guilty then i started to think maybe it was an accident, pretty much as you described but then i came back round to firmly thinking she was guilty.

I can honestly say that the evidence i have heard is what has made me come to that conclusion, rather than what ive read outside of it. Thats been more an insight into her mind and the juicy gossip

I think that she was disalusioned with her life, she thought she was meant for bigger and better things. She (in her eyes) DESERVED a good job, a great lifestyle and everything on a plate, i do think she thought that much of herself. What she actually had was no home of her own, no job and she was a single mother with no money. So she hung around with the movers and shakers to see if she could wiggle into thier life, either by catching a good man or getting a job out of it (the night she was trying to help with the shot girls when nobody really needed her too).   How on earth does a kid fit into that (in her mind).  So i think she decided that she could never say, oh i cant ive got caylee, because then she wouldnt be one of them, she would be just a single mum, someone 'tied down'.  

My theory is that when she lost her job ( i wish we knew more about how/when and why she lost her job) she started to drug caylee then and keep her in the boot when she needed too. She got used to doing this and it stopped feeling so wrong. We know caylee was uncountable for on many occasions and thats where i think she was kept for the two years.

I think that casey then realised that this 'kid' could talk. How the hell was she going to get out of this, the kid wasnt going to forget she was kept in a boot and mummy put her to sleep.  The serches on the home computer showed that she was clearly looking at ways to kill someone, so she had it in mind. Not 100% sure if she set out to do it that day or it was the day that she administered too much chloroform but... i do think it was premeditated. There was too much story planted in place for it to have been a spur of th moment thing. Then nanny the boyfriend the friend that didnt exist but had been in her story for 2 years.

I didnt think she would get the death penalty until her mum lied on the stand to try and save her. I think that probably cemented the juries  conclusion that she was as guilty as hell and so now... im not so sure.

I'm sorry, Rox - I couldn't help myself.

I think though based on what ive read in some of these facebook pages that even if she gets the death sentence she wont be put to death. They were saying they have executed something like 4 people in 4 or 5 years and that at that rate she would be executed in 2150 or something mental like that. 

bet you are glad im so good with exact facts

Now that might be taking things a bit far. Then again..............

 She wouldn't, would she?

Hello all 

you will be pleased to know that my niece and I will be listening to the closing arguments tomorrow.  It turns out she was in Florida in Orlando at the time Casey went missing so if aware of what the case is all about.

I've brought her up to date and we shall be ready to comment tomorrow 

I think i have seen it a few ways, how the Jurors may see it, and how i see it based on everything i have read.

I have found that most reports and discussions lean of the side of only thinking her guilty and only want to discuss her being guilty. I wanted to see the facts as the jury has done, and read about it as the WESH news team do IMO. They can see reason for and against all the facts and evidence, not just one sided.

I have said from the beginning, (in this thread and the other casey one) she probably was the one who neglected/abandoned, which then followed the demise of her little girl...She would put her child too sleep by the chloroform method on times, (we know this from her ex boyfriend).. it doesn't take much to work out this was done that one time that ended in the life of Caylee.

 Whether she due to her illness of the mind, blocked it out, or pretended it didn't happen, or just couldn't face the fact of what had happened... or even if she maliciously didn't care, and went and continued to go on *busyfying* hard through partying in her own life, i feel she had not meant to murder her daughter.

  We only have facts she is a liar and no facts she is a murderer.(even if we think she killed her) On those reasons alone, no murder weapon, no dna , etc etc, im not sure a jury could sensibly come to a conclusion to find her guilty of first degree murder, even if they THINK she did it, there is no proof. So for that main reason alone, i couldn't condem her to first degree murder and would be highly surprised if any jury would.

(maybe a couple may do, but it only takes one of them not too)

So definitely no  first degree murder charge (IMO it won't be first degree)

Brilliant!  get them all involved... i did hehee 

Heya guys .. some interesting hypotheses there 

Just wondering why, if it was premeditated, she chose that particular day.. which, if I have got it right from what I've heard, was one where she couldn't get a babysitter and wanted to go to some party or other.. and for all her personality disorders she appeared to be ok as a mum as there is no evidence I've seen to disavow this.. albeit cos the child also brought attention to her as well, which she seems to crave. .

anyway thanks for giving me your thoughts on this. .whatever she does get I hope they don't sanction her murder by the state just lock her away for a very long time 

let me know what case y'all be following next.. .

oh and yeah Yuri seems ok...

Cheers for that Roxan. .suppose I am always concerned in a case where there is a potential for a death penalty to err on the side of caution so I'd not be happy to go for 1st degree just in case it was wrong. .

plus it makes me go a bit shivery looking at the defendant knowing they could be put to death at some point but are flesh and blood and alive and kicking now.  slappable face or not..

.I watched a Louis Theroux interview with a woman on Death Row who had admitted all her crimes and found it horrid to watch . .partly cos I knew she was already dead but also cos as she was talking she knew the exact time she was going to die. . then seeing Louis outside at one minute past 12 saying it's confirmed time of death etc.. then interviewing the creeps that wanted to watch her die too asking what it was like and what happened.... and yes they were some that were family of her victims but to me that made them no better than her...

I think in anger and at a moment in time when something dreadful has just happened we could all be killers... but more out of passion and a heat of the moment thing but, to then kill later after the initial shock and anger has died down so clinically and in cold blood just makes me shudder at the thought

anyways thanks for listening to my ramblings and giving me something to follow daily..

He did take the stand and testify to Casey telling him Lee used to stand over her, and sexual references from Lee, but not sure if at any time the jury heard from one of the boyfriends about her using chloroform.  Here is  Jesse Grunds testimony on the stand, and you can also google jesse grunds police interviews about everything else he claims.http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dp...jess-grund-testifies