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I think the Jury may believe her on some points, they have wrote down everything she has said, and are looking interested. Her voice and mannerism's are surprisingly natural for someone telling the truth now. She may have lied at another point, but she is being truthful on the stand about certain things (IMO) I think the Jury may note as well she comes across as sincere about the sleeping with George and she is adamant about what he actually said to her, quite firm and direct. Making her sound plausible. 

Ev (Peachy)

Holloway: " I never went to anybody" She says detectives came to door 2 years later and then affair exposed.

 

Holloway: Went to NationalEnquirer because she didn't want story edited. Wanted her story in full, she thought they would tell the story properly.

Baez asks if she kept quiet about relationship for 2 years. Holloway appears to be getting emotional on stand.

 

Holloway is now crying as Ashton approaches her on the stand

Ashton Wants Holloway to read whole statement from. 2-17. She's still crying.

Ashton had Holloway reading her statement in Depo where she quoted George as saying " I really believe it was an accident"

 

CaseyAnthony - stone faced. 
#GeorgeAnthony - angry-looking. 
#cindyanthony - taking notes.
Jurors - watching intently

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

I'm not buying the tears sorry   

Neither am I.

mebbe it's because it's something that really annoys me about Americans but I can't stand the way they cry at the drop of a hat 

I can't criticise anyone for crying at the drop of a hat - I could bubble for Britain.

I just feel her tears are contrived.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):

mebbe it's because it's something that really annoys me about Americans but I can't stand the way they cry at the drop of a hat 

 

hahaa Pengy , class. 

but they do   they cry if they swat a gnat   and then think the Brits are strange cos of the stiff upper lip and all that   so I guess it makes us even 

FM

Ashton: George made it clear to you he had no first hand knowledge? Correct. 

 

krystal holloway reads own statem't 2 police. It sez #georgeanthony said I really believe it was just an accident & she tried 2 cover it up.

Baez to Holloway: "Did he say Casey told him?" Baez to Holloway: Did you tell the police that he knew it was an accident? Holloway: that is correct.

 

Ashton says "Ms Holloway I'm frankly confused." Ashton: "In statement you said 'like he knew?' " Holloway: "YES!"

Baez wants to show Holloway something on the computer. Ashton objects. Sideba

 

George speaking to Cindy, Cindy head lowered, hand in head, saying something...

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Pengy:

there is nothing in this testimony that in my mind brings reasonable doubt that Casey didn't do this - what it does question is whether it was an accident or by foul means 

Did you watch that 24 hour mystery thing, where they put in their own jury and tried casey? very interesting. 

yes they all seem to think immediately that it was an accident gone wrong    I could be swaying that way myself but I'm still not sure because if it was an accident I'd have thought she'd have broken down and admitted it by now 

FM

Even if George lied about having an affair with her and she lied about having an affair with him, then changed her mind - none of it is important in the grand scheme of things. 

 

The important thing is the defence are honing in on her claim that George only said "It was an accident that snowballed out of control." 

 

As if he knew and was involved in the cover up.

 

Jeff made her read her statement re that in full.

 

George also said " I really believe it was an accident that went wrong and Casey tried to cover it up."   

 

Big difference. 

Scotty

I think if George did make the statement to her regarding "an accident which snowballed", it may have been because he had started to disbelieve the Nanny kidnapping story and suspected Casey was the person responsible for Caylee's disappearance.

Naturally, he wouldn't want to believe Casey had intentionally murdered Caylee and therefore was thinking it must have been an accident.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I think if George did make the statement to her regarding "an accident which snowballed", it may have been because he had started to disbelieve the Nanny kidnapping story and suspected Casey was the person responsible for Caylee's disappearance.

Naturally, he wouldn't want to believe Casey had intentionally murdered Caylee and therefore was thinking it must have been an accident.

Hi, yes i am thinking along those lines. If he said that, why didnt she ask more about it? She said she didnt ask anything further, which i think is a bit strange. She isnt all that bright tho, is she? I have to say tho, that i have missed some as comp playing up

FM
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Pengy:

there is nothing in this testimony that in my mind brings reasonable doubt that Casey didn't do this - what it does question is whether it was an accident or by foul means 

Did you watch that 24 hour mystery thing, where they put in their own jury and tried casey? very interesting. 

I watched it when it first aired Ev. There was an uproar at the time because the guy (can`t remember his name now) who instructed and guided the jury - was part of the defence team

 

Edit - was employed by the defence as expert on jury selection.

He was supposed to represent them during the jury selection but bailed out a few days before it started.

 

 

 

Scotty
Last edited by Scotty
Originally Posted by Scotty:

Even if George lied about having an affair with her and she lied about having an affair with him, then changed her mind - none of it is important in the grand scheme of things. 

 

The important thing is the defence are honing in on her claim that George only said "It was an accident that snowballed out of control." 

 

As if he knew and was involved in the cover up.

 

Jeff made her read her statement re that in full.

 

George also said " I really believe it was an accident that went wrong and Casey tried to cover it up."   

 

Big difference. 

I totally agree Scottykins 

FM
Originally Posted by Skylark24:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:

I think if George did make the statement to her regarding "an accident which snowballed", it may have been because he had started to disbelieve the Nanny kidnapping story and suspected Casey was the person responsible for Caylee's disappearance.

Naturally, he wouldn't want to believe Casey had intentionally murdered Caylee and therefore was thinking it must have been an accident.

Hi, yes i am thinking along those lines. If he said that, why didnt she ask more about it? She said she didnt ask anything further, which i think is a bit strange. She isnt all that bright tho, is she? I have to say tho, that i have missed some as comp playing up

Hi Skylark.

Yogi19
Originally Posted by Scotty:

Even if George lied about having an affair with her and she lied about having an affair with him, then changed her mind - none of it is important in the grand scheme of things. 

 

The important thing is the defence are honing in on her claim that George only said "It was an accident that snowballed out of control." 

 

As if he knew and was involved in the cover up.

 

Jeff made her read her statement re that in full.

 

George also said " I really believe it was an accident that went wrong and Casey tried to cover it up."   

 

Big difference. 

True. I would love to know how the Jury view this situation, and her full testimony. 

Ev (Peachy)

Perry says instruction will be read as is. He says if he did anything wrong- he'll be graded later if it comes to that. As in appeal.

perry: jury will be instruction that Holloway statement should only be used to impeach #GeorgeAnthony not as evidence re #CaseyAnthony.

 

"OK jury, I have a statement to read to you."

 

Judge is reading instruction to jurors. Saying Holloway's statements are to George's credibility but not to how Caylee died. 

 

 

Ev (Peachy)

Judge instructs jury not to consider Holloway's statements in regard to manner victim died or Casey's guilt/innocence.

 

Holloway called to stand, just to be excused.

 

George and Cindy did not give eye contact or move when she walked past. 

 

Dominic Casey back on the stand now. (he was the funny confused man when he took the stand the last time... who searched in area of wood where Caylee's remains was eventually found )

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Scotty:
Originally Posted by Ev (Peachy):
Originally Posted by Pengy:

there is nothing in this testimony that in my mind brings reasonable doubt that Casey didn't do this - what it does question is whether it was an accident or by foul means 

Did you watch that 24 hour mystery thing, where they put in their own jury and tried casey? very interesting. 

I watched it when it first aired Ev. There was an uproar at the time because the guy (can`t remember his name now) who instructed and guided the jury - was part of the defence team

 

Edit - was employed by the defence as expert on jury selection.

He was supposed to represent them during the jury selection but bailed out a few days before it started.

 

 

 

Interesting!  Thanks for that info Scotty

 

I have looked for many views and discussions and programmes with information who isn't one side or another, i find the guy on the WESH interview after the live feed to be very credible in his unbiased views (neither for or against the state or defence) which i prefer. 

Apart from him (he is the young good looking stocky man, can't remember his name but he is an attorney) I can't find very many views similar, a shame. 

Ev (Peachy)
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

Oh noes this is the mumbling guy who's as deaf as a post when the State asks questions but fine when the defence does 

Are you implying he "puts it on" when questioned by the state, Pengy?

I would never be that biased 

I believe you.

He's apparently a New Zealander but has lived and worked in Europe and by that I think they mean the UK because I can detect a British sounding accent more so than a kiwi one 

FM
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:
Originally Posted by Yogi19:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

Oh noes this is the mumbling guy who's as deaf as a post when the State asks questions but fine when the defence does 

Are you implying he "puts it on" when questioned by the state, Pengy?

I would never be that biased 

I believe you.

He's apparently a New Zealander but has lived and worked in Europe and by that I think they mean the UK because I can detect a British sounding accent more so than a kiwi one 

Well spotted.

Yogi19

 Baez: Asking George if duct tape we saw in video from search command tent was his. We're back on the 'ol duct tape.

GeorgeAnthony said duct tape in video could have been his or someone else's. 

Baez asking George if he had just seen the vidoe that had been on.. and asked  "Sir you didn't recognize that location as being close to your home? GeorgeAnthony does not recall where video taken.(I think George likes to be as awkward as possible with Baez, understandable though IMO) 

Ev (Peachy)

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