Are the jury back in for this crap!

I'm sure they are there Soozy but I'm not sure.

WESH seem to think that  Casey Anthony party photos after her daughter died may be confounding for jury. This expert may help sort it out for them.   

Dunno if she will - could lead us down the garden path 

I feel there is going to be an odd ending , or a different twist we will be a bit shocked about near the end of this trial. Something to do with a mistrial, or how the jury find Casey, on what charge (if they ever get to this point)

Just a hunch, watch this space. 

Can we believe .........................Casey is crying on cue! This is quite ridiculous IMO.

Casey appears to be crying and wiping her face - I'm on tissue watch.

I'm keeping them peeled  

Is this for real?

That's a lot of assumptions!

Casey....IMO....cries...yes thats me...grieving........softly spoken, pleasant cross examiner........ 

Even with how i feel about George, i still felt upset when he was upset on the stand today, Casey is very emotionless, unless it involves her, but again, these classic symptoms i have come to expect, and not surprised at all. 

What do you think the jury are making of this?

assume, assume, assume, assume! How bloody ridiculous!

Pure psychobabble - is she a chemist incidentally?

Given all those types of behaviour...............why won't she shout out loud from the stand tell to all.................even if only to tell of her families implication..............

The doctor really isn't getting the hang of giving testimony.

I can't believe this is happening TBH! 

I'm struggling to stay awake with this testimony 

Okay, has the good doctor convinced you that Casey's behaviour (following Caylee's death) was understandable and was the result of her being a reluctant griever?

Took the words out of my mouth. 

and if Dot Simms decided that defence attorney isn't her cup of tea, then she should venture into Hypnotic relaxation tapes/  CDs, I'd buy one, does wonders for my insomnia. 

Dotty does have a very soporific voice.

Crying for the sympathy she sees as being shown to her...................Anger at that the thought of sympathy shown to her father............Is what I have seen.......

What i understand sometimes in  certain grief, you can try to pretend it didnt happen to the point of actually believing it didnt happen, or it happened in a different lifetime (if anyone can understand this) , not sure if this has happened somewhat in Casey's case. 

Also in grief, i know fact you can laugh like hysteria, in place of tears. 

Without a sympathetic ear she has stopped crying and has started again with the questioning disdainful look................

There surely is a difference between denial and out and out fantasy - creating characters, situations and events - that actually started before Caylee died even - EXPLAIN THAT?

I agree that some people go into denial when they lose a loved one, but I'm not convinced that's what happened in this case.

Well in this case, it is certainly a lot more complicated. 

It sure is, Ev.

I do agree with her that different people grieve in different ways and that young people grieve differently than older people 

I also acknowledge there are people that as you say Ev can pretend something didn't happen but in my experience as an Occupational OT (Job I had before teaching) these people would pretend that the child doesn't even exist (I use to give therapy to people that had lost young children mainly though accident or disease).  Almost every time, these people were like ghosts and emotionless as in they are not there and drift in and out of reality - as if they are sitting in a chair staring into space and unable to focus on anything or anyone including themselves. Casey doesn't fit into this category.

The hysteria people will do this only for a short while before breaking down totally moving from hysterical laughter to uncontrollable tears which over time leads them to come to terms with what has happened.  Again I don't feel Casey fitted into this category - she was able to lie, manipulate truths, make up stories, party and remember to check in with the folks.

Mebbe I'm just closed to any possibility of her grieving 'properly' for her child.  

What she just said - magical thinking 

I think the grief process, and the fantasy life are two different situations. I could try to explain, but its far to complicated even for me.  All outward actions of Casey co-insides with a person with a sociopathic nature. 

I can agree with all of that, Ev.

She lived a fantasy life, she has no grief because she is a sociopath!

Good point Bill - during George's testimony where he breaks down Casey was emotionless yet during this splurge she's weeping buckets 

Interesting, and true,  i have counselled people with similar grief processes, and also have gone through similar ones myself in past.

I can say definitely, you can feel like your not of this world, as if your in a bubble, and no one can touch you in any emotional form. 

I also have come across people in some circumstances like Casey,(when working in mental health hospitals/units etc)  (accused of murder, or lost a child in murder, or blamed when it is or isnt their fault ) You see  the blankness, the coolness, the putting on a front for what they feel people should see, what they want us to see... they are clever, they have done it all their life.  and i know we see her in court, but we dont see her out of court. 

I don't see her emotions being normal in any way, this is based on what i see from the court only, i have no idea what she is like away from the camera.

Well she does, but it is complicated, and mainly she will be grieving for herself, like a 4 year old if you can imagine, she will put herself first before anyone, its her world, her life, people are there for her!  In just the way of a mental level a 3 or 4 year old does. 

But - we have seen the jail house videos - we have heard from her friends and also read her letters. I think that gives a lot of clues.

Nobody is stopping you............