Had my sister on the phone asking if i had any duct tape , she had to cut the hose on her hoover and needs some to repair it. I said i have about 4 rolls of the stuff, she can have it all, even the name of it makes me shudder and i will never use it again. She thinks i am a total fruitcake. 
We will never be thar same again will we 
*takes notes"...
skylark ...duct tape mentioned at seventeen hundred hours on the 26 june 2011...possible alibi? 
look at us, the gaga jury... working on a sunday 
soooo what your saying stonks is that there are unsolved mysteries could this be a case for *DUMMDUMMMM ,,...,,DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM*... THE GAGA JURY 
Interesting Soozy, the photos and videos of her with Caylee shows she loved her and loved being with her. She has shown some strange behaviour tho, but Cindy didnt even pick it up, so she says. She has shown a kind of detachment thru the trial, then some real emotion. She definately has some mental issues going on there...........
Had my sister on the phone asking if i had any duct tape , she had to cut the hose on her hoover and needs some to repair it. I said i have about 4 rolls of the stuff, she can have it all, even the name of it makes me shudder and i will never use it again. She thinks i am a total fruitcake.
We will never be thar same again will we
No , dont think so ........
*takes notes"...
skylark ...duct tape mentioned at seventeen hundred hours on the 26 june 2011...possible alibi?
look at us, the gaga jury... working on a sunday
soooo what your saying stonks is that there are unsolved mysteries could this be a case for *DUMMDUMMMM ,,...,,DUMMMMMMMMMMMMMM*... THE GAGA JURY
You are bonkers Gypsie!! We will all need therapy by the time this trial finishes !
I know
Interesting Soozy, the photos and videos of her with Caylee shows she loved her and loved being with her. She has shown some strange behaviour tho, but Cindy didnt even pick it up, so she says. She has shown a kind of detachment thru the trial, then some real emotion. She definately has some mental issues going on there...........
I do believe that she had some love for Caylee but I can't help feeling it was similar to a love that a child can have for say a puppy - love them while their cute and little but as soon as they get a bit bigger the love subsides as it becomes a chore to look after them. The difference is that Casey, unlike children that grow out of love with their pet and let their parent take responsibility for it, seems to have taken the route of I don't want her, but nobody else is getting her either -especially Cindy 
that CBS story was interesting but one sided as Soozy said. It hasn't changed my mind about her but it has cemented my belief though that Cindy may have been an overbearing grandmother and Casey may have been made to feel as if nothing she did with Caylee was right. It's possible that Cindy may very well have been interfering too much and that is the catalyst that led Casey to kill her child. 
I don't for one second believe that Cindy has done anything intentionally to set Casey off, she is in my eyes, the unintentional catalyst
We should meet up and have a party when it's all done!
Cindy may have been an overbearing grandmother
I think I may be an over bearing grandmother TBH ....................but I do let my son and his partner make mistakes (I just tutt silently) and put it right when I have the boys to myself 
. No ....................I just know it's very easy to be critical ..........................especially if you had a daughter like Casey!
I think I may be an over bearing grandmother TBH ....................but I do let my son and his partner make mistakes (I just tutt silently) and put it right when I have the boys to myself . No ....................I just know it's very easy to be critical ..........................especially if you had a daughter like Casey!
interesting points there Pengy. Yes i think Cindy is and was overbearing and a bit of a control freak. I think she belittled Casey, to a point where she felt she couldnt do anything right. Some say Casey hated her mother with a passion. I dont know, and i doubt we will ever know , what triggered in Casey,s mind to do such an horrific thing, but i would agree that Cindy was the catalyst . I think Cindy knows that too, she seems to be consumed with guilt, as comes thru with the mountains of stuff i have seen and read.
We should meet up and have a party when it's all done!
We should ! can you imagine ?
We should meet up and have a party when it's all done!
We should ! can you imagine ?
we could have badge with gaga jury printed on them and a 'we love Yuri' t-shirt and on the back we could have 'We love HH Judge B Perry' 
the possibilities are endless
, but i would agree that Cindy was the catalyst . I think Cindy knows that too, she seems to be consumed with guilt, as comes thru with the mountains of stuff i have seen and read.
I think Casey fits the profile to a tee of a sociopath (see above ^^^^^^) sociopaths are born like that (please read). If Cindy was overbearing and took over somewhat ................................what can you do? You would step in wouldn't you? I really don't think Cindy has to reproach herself for giving birth to a sociopathic daughter..........just my opinion of course.
, but i would agree that Cindy was the catalyst . I think Cindy knows that too, she seems to be consumed with guilt, as comes thru with the mountains of stuff i have seen and read.
I think Casey fits the profile to a tee of a sociopath (see above ^^^^^^) sociopaths are born like that (please read). If Cindy was overbearing and took over somewhat ................................what can you do? You would step in wouldn't you? I really don't think Cindy has to reproach herself for giving birth to a sociopathic daughter..........just my opinion of course.
Yes i read that and answered Soozy . Cindy said Casey had a normal childhood, Lee says she turned a bit odd around 14ish. I dont know all the answers Soozy, just go by what i have read and seen . Cindy is probably going thru what i would be........that is saying "where did i go wrong". Cindys letters to casey, in prison are interesting. give them a read sometime, dont have a link, sorry. But try google xx
IMO,... poor Caylee died.........Casey knows, why, how...........whether accidental or premeditated.....yet she sits in court, day after day, looking through files, looking with DISDAIN at witnesses trying to explain/find an answer as to how the poor child/her daughter died....................(And IMO cries real tears when she sees her brother walking in and out of the courtroom free to live his life knowing she is not free to live hers....her first real tears of sorrow)
Hi Syd. Before the jury is called in Casey has been seen laughing and chatting, like she hasnt got a care in the world.
I hope she is on the stand this week, surely before she gets sentenced, she will have something to say ???
Hi Syd. Before the jury is called in Casey has been seen laughing and chatting, like she hasnt got a care in the world.
I hope she is on the stand this week, surely before she gets sentenced, she will have something to say ???
I know as a Mother, Daughter, Sister.......I would have to stand up and speak...........whether to expose my parents, brother or to cry accident...............
Hi Syd. Before the jury is called in Casey has been seen laughing and chatting, like she hasnt got a care in the world.
I hope she is on the stand this week, surely before she gets sentenced, she will have something to say ???
personally i don't think she will ever take the stand. I would love to see it but I really don't think that will ever happen. EVIL COW!
Hi Syd. Before the jury is called in Casey has been seen laughing and chatting, like she hasnt got a care in the world.
I hope she is on the stand this week, surely before she gets sentenced, she will have something to say ???
I know as a Mother, Daughter, Sister.......I would have to stand up and speak...........whether to expose my parents, brother or to cry accident...............
Yes, but at the same time, the defense are aware that she may incriminate herself
Hi Syd. Before the jury is called in Casey has been seen laughing and chatting, like she hasnt got a care in the world.
I hope she is on the stand this week, surely before she gets sentenced, she will have something to say ???
personally i don't think she will ever take the stand. I would love to see it but I really don't think that will ever happen. EVIL COW!
No i dont think so either Sooz, just wishful thinking on my part....................
Yes, but at the same time, the defense are aware that she may incriminate herself
If it was me and my daughter had died......If my parents had anything to do with it, I would scream it out LOUD....If my brother had anything to do with it, I would scream it out LOUD.......If a Nanny had anything to do with it I would scream it out LOUD.........On the Stand.....
I would not be thinking about me.....
Evening all.
It's interesting to see we can't stay away from this thread, even on a Sunday. There is no hope for us.
Gypsie, I'm glad your daughter is feeling better today.
, but i would agree that Cindy was the catalyst . I think Cindy knows that too, she seems to be consumed with guilt, as comes thru with the mountains of stuff i have seen and read.
I think Casey fits the profile to a tee of a sociopath (see above ^^^^^^) sociopaths are born like that (please read). If Cindy was overbearing and took over somewhat ................................what can you do? You would step in wouldn't you? I really don't think Cindy has to reproach herself for giving birth to a sociopathic daughter..........just my opinion of course.
I don't think anybody thinks Cindy has to reproach herself over how Casey turned out - I know I certainly don't. 
I was just saying that she possibly could have inadvertently been the catalyst to set Casey off.
I also believe that Casey has the hallmark of being a sociopath (I met enough of them when I worked as a forensic occupational therapist before I went into teaching) and it does appear that Cindy and Casey had a difficult relationship so any interference by Cindy would have been perceived as an 'attack' by Casey. I also believe that any self-respecting grandparent would and should intervene if they feel their grandchild is in danger or not being looked after properly - so long as the balance between a fear of neglect is measured against a belief that daughter/DIL isn't bringing child up to grandparents standards.
Cindy obviously had reason to be concerned about Caylee and with Casey being a pathological liar it looks like she was right
personally i don't think she will ever take the stand. I would love to see it but I really don't think that will ever happen. EVIL COW!
I don't think the defence would dare let her take the stand - she's incapable of telling the truth and would lie under oath in the mistaken belief that everyone would believe her.
I don't think she believes anyone would convict her 
, but i would agree that Cindy was the catalyst . I think Cindy knows that too, she seems to be consumed with guilt, as comes thru with the mountains of stuff i have seen and read.
I think Casey fits the profile to a tee of a sociopath (see above ^^^^^^) sociopaths are born like that (please read). If Cindy was overbearing and took over somewhat ................................what can you do? You would step in wouldn't you? I really don't think Cindy has to reproach herself for giving birth to a sociopathic daughter..........just my opinion of course.
I don't think anybody thinks Cindy has to reproach herself over Caylee - I know I certainly don't. I was just saying that she possibly could have inadvertently been the catalyst to set Casey off.
I also believe that Casey has the hallmark of being a sociopath (I met enough of them when I worked as a forensic occupational therapist before I went into teaching) and it does appear that Cindy and Casey had a difficult relationship so any interference by Cindy would have been perceived as an 'attack' by Casey. I also believe that any self-respecting grandparent would and should intervene if they feel their grandchild is in danger or not being looked after properly - so long as the balance between a fear of neglect is measured against a belief that daughter/DIL isn't bringing child up to grandparents standards.
Cindy obviously had reason to be concerned about Caylee and with Casey being a pathological liar it looks like she was right
^^^^ We've got our very own GaGa Jury's Grace Foley.
I agree with everyone who thinks Casey is a sociopath and agree about her difficult relationship with Cindy.
I did read somewhere that it had been noted during the recorded jail visits, that Cindy and George seemed almost deferential towards Casey and it was Casey who seemed "in control". It's all very strange.
, but i would agree that Cindy was the catalyst . I think Cindy knows that too, she seems to be consumed with guilt, as comes thru with the mountains of stuff i have seen and read.
I think Casey fits the profile to a tee of a sociopath (see above ^^^^^^) sociopaths are born like that (please read). If Cindy was overbearing and took over somewhat ................................what can you do? You would step in wouldn't you? I really don't think Cindy has to reproach herself for giving birth to a sociopathic daughter..........just my opinion of course.
I don't think anybody thinks Cindy has to reproach herself over how Casey turned out - I know I certainly don't. I was just saying that she possibly could have inadvertently been the catalyst to set Casey off.
I also believe that Casey has the hallmark of being a sociopath (I met enough of them when I worked as a forensic occupational therapist before I went into teaching) and it does appear that Cindy and Casey had a difficult relationship so any interference by Cindy would have been perceived as an 'attack' by Casey. I also believe that any self-respecting grandparent would and should intervene if they feel their grandchild is in danger or not being looked after properly - so long as the balance between a fear of neglect is measured against a belief that daughter/DIL isn't bringing child up to grandparents standards.
Cindy obviously had reason to be concerned about Caylee and with Casey being a pathological liar it looks like she was right
Agreed How sad it was too late .........................my heart breaks for the grand parents. No doubt in my mind that they adored that little girl
Cindy obviously had reason to be concerned about Caylee and with Casey being a pathological liar it looks like she was right
Agreed How sad it was too late .........................my heart breaks for the grand parents. No doubt in my mind that they adored that little girl
yes I do believe they adored little Caylee
We should meet up and have a party when it's all done!
in orlando
I'll second that!
We should meet up and have a party when it's all done!
in orlando
I'll second that!
Why not - we'll have fireworks and a barbie outside of the Orange County Correctional Facility and sing our Bananarama song ^^^^^^^^ at the top of our voices (we'll invite Yuri and Judge Perry too).
We should meet up and have a party when it's all done!
in orlando
I'll second that!
Why not - we'll have fireworks and a barbie outside of the Orange County Correctional Facility and sing our Bananarama song ^^^^^^^^ at the top of our voices (we'll invite Yuri and Judge Perry too).
Brilliant, I'm up for that.
We should meet up and have a party when it's all done!
in orlando
I'll second that!
Why not - we'll have fireworks and a barbie outside of the Orange County Correctional Facility and sing our Bananarama song ^^^^^^^^ at the top of our voices (we'll invite Yuri and Judge Perry too).
Brilliant, I'm up for that.
Orlando wouldn't know what hit them
Just found this clip whilst I was browsing around .....................hmmmmmmmmmmm - interesting
doesn't seem to have embedded - heres the link
That was very interesting, Soozy. Whatever was said, Casey dropped her guard and her rage was obvious for all to see. She practically bared her teeth.
I wonder if the jury were still in court to see that flash of angry Casey?
Good afternoon Gaga Jury
This it slowed down.......
I`m not sure if it`s directed at Baez - I think it might be about Linda Drane Burdick.
She was trying to have a photo blocked at the time.
I`m not a lip reader but she seems to be saying " Did you see....?"
What do you think?
Yes, I also think she said "Did you see...".
There was real venom on her face, whoever it was directed at.
I think it showed a side of Casey she has tried very hard to keep hidden. I really hope the jury saw it.
Yes, I also think she said "Did you see...".
There was real venom on her face, whoever it was directed at.
I think it showed a side of Casey she has tried very hard to keep hidden. I really hope the jury saw it.
So do I. I`m not sure if the jury were there or not. I`ve been checking on the hinky but no-one`s confirmed anything, so far.
Anne Finnell ( she`s the death penalty qualified lawyer for penalty phase) has come back to court today for the first time since jury selection and filed a motion for a mistrial and a new jury.
Don`t know all the details.....
Yes, I also think she said "Did you see...".
There was real venom on her face, whoever it was directed at.
I think it showed a side of Casey she has tried very hard to keep hidden. I really hope the jury saw it.
So do I. I`m not sure if the jury were there or not. I`ve been checking on the hinky but no-one`s confirmed anything, so far.
Hi Scotty.
Bill talking about possible plea.
Anne Finnell ( she`s the death penalty qualified lawyer for penalty phase) has come back to court today for the first time since jury selection and filed a motion for a mistrial and a new jury.
Don`t know all the details.....
We would need to go through the whole thing again.
Yes, I also think she said "Did you see...".
There was real venom on her face, whoever it was directed at.
I think it showed a side of Casey she has tried very hard to keep hidden. I really hope the jury saw it.
So do I. I`m not sure if the jury were there or not. I`ve been checking on the hinky but no-one`s confirmed anything, so far.
Hi Scotty.
Bill talking about possible plea.
Hi Yogi
Really?
Some news coming through about defence withdrawing their "complaint" against Jeff re the accusation he (Jeff) phoned Rodriquez boss to have him excluded from giving evidence.
Something like that anyway......
