I've got one and would like to know more about it. Google just seems to churn out a couple of paragraphs which are basically all the same. Thank you. 
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My FIL was born with one, one of the family still have it but I don't know much about them only they're supposed to be lucky....
No - i know nothing about it
What do you want to know Col?
I think there are books on it if you want to go deep
Originally Posted by stonks:
My FIL was born with one, one of the family still have it but I don't know much about them only they're supposed to be lucky....
Funny that. The mask used to be in my bf's French farmhouse and there were times when I was there on my own and a bit scared. It hung over the enormous fireplace in our bedroom and it used to make me feel really safe. Don't know why. Anywhoo, the farm is sold now and I pleaded to have it although it's supposed to be worth some money. I still talk to him almost every night before I go to sleep.
Renton, thank you.
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
What do you want to know Col?
I think there are books on it if you want to go deep
Yes please. I know that it's disputed which doctor took it, but that's about it. I've had a look at the 'supposed' original and it's identical to my plastercast, but when you see pictures of Napoleon, he doesn't really look that chissled. 
I'd never heard about them but they do seem very fascinating. Don't think I'd like anyone's death mask at home though, not even my family, not even the Turin Shroud 
Originally Posted by suzybean:
I'd never heard about them but they do seem very fascinating. Don't think I'd like anyone's death mask at home though, not even my family, not even the Turin Shroud
I feel the same as you generally, but he's very soothing for some reason.
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Originally Posted by suzybean:
I'd never heard about them but they do seem very fascinating. Don't think I'd like anyone's death mask at home though, not even my family, not even the Turin Shroud
I feel the same as you generally, but he's very soothing for some reason.
His pics on google image look the business Col...I just can't.
They have this one on Amazon Col
Re the Turin Shroud, I read a book years ago called the Hiram Key which maintained that it was the death shroud of the bloke from the Knights Templar (Gilles De Mornay or summat like that - my memory is pants)
Interestingly, the book dated it to the 14th century and this was before the carbon dating process had actually dated the shroud to then
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
They have this one on Amazon Col
Re the Turin Shroud, I read a book years ago called the Hiram Key which maintained that it was the death shroud of the bloke from the Knights Templar (Gilles De Mornay or summat like that - my memory is pants)
Interestingly, the book dated it to the 14th century and this was before the carbon dating process had actually dated the shroud to then
I'm sure he was mentioned in the Da Vinci Code. My mum is the font of all knowledge about stuff like that. She's a natural historian/theologian type and she can go on for ages about Dead Sea Scrolls, Crusades, Religious Schisms, The Man in the Iron Mask, Princes in the Tower etc. I'll ask her what she knows about Napoleon and his death mask. It's really fascinating.
She would really love the Hiram Key then Suzy. A friend leant it to me and I was really dubious as it was written by two Freemasons. I thought they might be brainwashing me lol
But it was really fascinating, going all the way back to ancient Egypt and covering all sorts of stuff inbetween
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
She would really love the Hiram Key then Suzy. A friend leant it to me and I was really dubious as it was written by two Freemasons. I thought they might be brainwashing me lol
But it was really fascinating, going all the way back to ancient Egypt and covering all sorts of stuff inbetween
That book rings a bell Veggie. I'll ask her. Thanks for that 
Well, thanks all. I am now gagging to read the book about the Knight's Templars. My mother used to take me to a huuuuge cemetry in Cologne which has lots of famous (German) people, but also a family member. We'd walk around the rows and I would ask about obelisks being cut off at the top and she told me they were freemasons believing that death was it. She was very Catholic, so I reserve judgement.
There was one on 4 rooms last week and it wasnt worth a great deal. Looked a bit spooky and made my palms itch...
There was a bit of tattooed skin in a bottle on that four rooms one week!! 
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Well, thanks all. I am now gagging to read the book about the Knight's Templars.
Was that the one I said about? It's not about the KT, it's about the history of Freemasonry actually but for all that it is a fascinating book. There is some alternate stuff about the crucifiction and the origins of modern day America which I enjoyed.
I love those sorts of books, don't believe everything I read but like stuff that gets me thinking. I haven't read The Da Vinci code as a lot of what I read about it made it look like Dan Brown had plagarised all sorts of books to cobble it together
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
Originally Posted by cologne 1:
Well, thanks all. I am now gagging to read the book about the Knight's Templars.
Was that the one I said about? It's not about the KT, it's about the history of Freemasonry actually but for all that it is a fascinating book. There is some alternate stuff about the crucifiction and the origins of modern day America which I enjoyed.
I love those sorts of books, don't believe everything I read but like stuff that gets me thinking. I haven't read The Da Vinci code as a lot of what I read about it made it look like Dan Brown had plagarised all sorts of books to cobble it together
Any of that veggie. I love history, especially if it has some relevance.
I love all of that contested historical stuff....anything with a mysterious edge gets my brain cells ticking too Veggie. I've been reading stuff about Stigmata and other claimed miracles lately.
Originally Posted by suzybean:
I love all of that contested historical stuff....anything with a mysterious edge gets my brain cells ticking too Veggie. I've been reading stuff about Stigmata and other claimed miracles lately.
ooohh, I love a bit of stigmata! ! Fortean Times used to be good for all things esoteric etc, their book reviews used to be the basis of my payday book shopping
Cologne, did you see this ? http://query.nytimes.com/mem/a...AC0994D0405B858DF1D3
Soz col I read it wrong..my FIL was a mask from birth it was made out of skin....
Originally Posted by stonks:
Soz col I read it wrong..my FIL was a mask from birth it was made out of skin....
A caul? They're supposed to be lucky!
There's an old wives tale that a baby born with a caul will never die of drowning.
Not true but would be interesting to know how that tale came about
I never knew thats what they're called....well the FIL did'nt die of drowning so thats one that came true....
Originally Posted by stonks:
Soz col I read it wrong..my FIL was a mask from birth it was made out of skin....
I was slightly worried that he'd been born with one! 
Originally Posted by Veggieburger:
There's an old wives tale that a baby born with a caul will never die of drowning.
Not true but would be interesting to know how that tale came about
Think it might be because they're born in fluid? ( those completely en caul are anyways )