So do I. It's the only way to look at it. Long may it continue on here.

awwww!  

Like a home visit kind of thing!

 sort of yes !
Me Bad !!

Soozy Woo Member Yesterday at 4:23 PM I'm gonna say this and then I;m logging out for the night. There are people here who disagree with each other from time to time and have their spats ........................sometimes it gets heated but - that's just how it is and generally there are no hatd feelings. Then ............there are really nasty feckers who have a superiority complex and feel that they have the right to say nasty, horrible stuffand then wonder why they have a lifetime ban. I think there is more behind this thread than meets the eyes TBH ..............don't like it,

You seem fairly bitter about something that is a general suggestion Soozy, even hinting there are mysterious plots underlying a thread which was posted by one of the most kind and genuine posters on the forum. What exactly are you implying?

Surely the whole point is to have an open system for moderation that is not controlled by button pressers and hearsay hinters, and is also capable of giving ALL parties a chance of putting their case.  The view of many people is that the current system could be better - no more, no less.  

Your abuse of unnamed 'nasty feckers' who have presumably annoyed you does nothing to bring balance or open discussion to this thread.  Nobody is suggesting that people should do as they like.  All people are saying is democracy is best served by transparency - isn't it?  The various suggestions about sin bins and 'x strikes and you're out' all have merit  and should be discussed.  Accusations about the motives of a very nice FM do not help and are unkind, hurtful and unfair.  

It would be nice if you could withdraw your remarks this morning.  If you do I will withdraw the quote.

In defence of Soozys remarks about nasty fekkers: I have to say that because we have the lifetime ban/IP ban or whatever Lori and co use it has been somewhat mellow here overall for quite a while but a look in the troll tank would remind anyone of how unpleasant forums can get.
Most of the old fms aren't here not because of being banned but because they now have other stuff they're into or hang around on FB. Allowing people who are banned to come back in order to add to the mix or make the place busier won't work imo. The majority of  people that will come racing back will be people looking to settle old scores and chaos will ensue.
And I say that as someone who has online friends who have been banned from here

I think the length should depend on why they were banned. Most have said if it was a 3 strikes rule then someone could be banned for life for posting silly pictures etc. Also it shouldn't depend on the volume hitting the report button. The majority are not always right. 

I know we have mods here and mostly they do a great job but in some ways I think as we are all adults we should have some sort of self moderation. Nobody is forced to respond to anyone they think is a WUM or troll. Nobody is forced to retaliate if someone has a  go. I fall out with people all the time but I'd hate to be banned simply for having a differing opinion and a resulting heated discussion. A lot of what has gone on here is nothing more than old grudges. People not willing to let things lie and in the process it consumes their online life. Lifes too short.....IMO

Yeah,,,,Marge is out to cause trouble rofl  

Marge 

I wasn't talking about Marge. I was talking in general 

Ah wisnae talking to you 

Awww 

Guess I'll have to go do my mountain of ironing then 

I think most people DO self moderate Cagney, well I know if I posted some of the things i shouted at the screen I'd be banned long ago.

Same here 

I don't doubt MOST people do self moderate but there are some who don't and allow themselves to be wound up time and time again rather than step away from a situation. Especially when they are fully aware and post to confirm that they knew it would be the same old same old and should never have replied....and never will again....until the next time. 

Seems to me that the 'time should fit the crime' but then, additionally, take into account both any 'past offences' and any serious provocation. (Life does seem like a v v long time 'though and, imho, probably only fitting for those who repeatedly come in and cause trouble/launch serious personal attacks.)
I guess that Lori and co. have better things to do than to spend forever watching out for 'repeat offenders' and those who come back time and time again with new ids, only to repeat the behaviour that they got banned for in the first place, or to get into lengthy 'he said' 'she said' debates about who is in the wrong.
Also, I'm not sure that anyone from GaGa has ever suggested that the moderation decisions on here are 'transparent' or this is a 'democracy.' Whether folk like it or not, they decided the 'punishment' and it's not open for discussion. As far as I can see these are the rules:

• Remember that not every new user is someone you've seen before. Let's not immediately jump to conclusions. Not everyone that registers is that guy ... you know ... that guy?
• If you see a person that you suspect is a previously-banned user, report it and move along. Don't call them out, don't jump right to the attack, just report it and be done with it.
• Remember that not every user has or cares about a history on C4. That was C4, this is not C4. We don't care what went on there. You shouldn't either.
• Do not feed the Trolls. You don't need to rush into every argument on the forums. If you are a member that seems to be involved in a lot of arguments here, be warned: you may be banned. Moderators will not be spending time refereeing or evaluating who is right and who is wrong. They will be looking for and banning people that are repeatedly involved in disturbances.
• Leave your troubles behind. Arguments that started somewhere else should stay somewhere else. If you drag an argument from someplace else to these forums you will be banned.
• Leave your flamethrower behind. If you're here just to create problems and cause grief for other users, your time here will be short.
• But do bring your asbestos underwear. People here have very strong opinions. They don't necessarily agree with you. Get over it. It's not personal. If it becomes personal, report it and move on, but don't feed the Troll or, as stated above, you'll get yourself banned.
• We don't read every post, every topic. Don't assume that we know that Harry has been picking on Sally all week. Tell us. Then don't jump into the fray, just move on to another topic.
• Think before you post. Are you posting to the right person? In the right Forum? Did you spell the name properly? Are you sure this is what you want to say? Don't start an argumentative or provocative topic, then ask the moderator to clean up your mess.
• The Troll Tank is where examples of bad behavior go. Topics that are moved there, or placed there and closed are examples of what NOT to do.

That's the first time I've ever read the rules Supes 

...It took me a while to find them!...There may be more, elsewhere, but if so I don't know where they are!
EDIT: there are some somewhere as I recall: no nudity, no foul language etc. but i don't know where they are any more

which guy? 

awwwww...    things didn't work out between Harry & Sally then?     Still once she'd showed him how well she could fake it in the cafe there was always going to be some underlying suspicions!

LOL...and  as for Harry and Sally? Didn't they end up falling in love and geting married after all of their previous disagreements

Snap, kinda.....shame it didn't work out for them

They must have been going through a bad patch Soops! 

I for one, am very disappointed to hear of this behaviour from Harry!

Good thread Marg and glad you opened up the subject for discussion    Personally i think everyone should be given the benefit of the doubt, banned for say a week then if they keep up with whatever they were banned for , then maybe a month, and a lifetime ban after that. We can all get heated at some point

Ah! The House Rules. tick, tick, tick, incomplete, fail, pass etc................

quote:

Reference:

Remember that not every new user is someone you've seen before. Let's not immediately jump to conclusions.
Not everyone that registers is that guy ... you know ... that guy?

which guy? 

The one he usually is silly!

I thought all the folk her knew that! tsk!