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Originally posted by Skylark24:
Well i am not a Freddie fan but having listened to the conversation i dont think he is any different to any young guy with parents, who claim "dole" money as a bit of pocket money, I didnt take his comments as patronising to people who have to live on this amount, infact he probably doesnt have a clue that some folk actually have to live on this amount! In this situation how many young guys do? There are many young folk living with their parents in council homes and dont even know the price of a pint of milk! So i dont think Freddie is any different in that respect. Plus as the convo was with David, i am sure he would have put him right if it had been offensive


Well said Skylark. I`m a freddie fan but I`m not blinded. If he had meant that in an offensive way I would not for one minute be defending him. He was pointing out the meagre amount that people have to live on. "pocket money" has been jumped upon by those who would rather believe he meant it differently. As you said, David would have put him straight if he thought it was a "snobby" slur.
Scotty
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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
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Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
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Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
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Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
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Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
I suspect a lot of people who live with their rich parents (who have paid taxes all their lives), probably see it the same way. Tbh I dont see what all the fuss is about

and I am not a freddie fan btw
Well I think people who have been long term out of work would see it as the wrong thing to say Shake Head




why I couldnt care less Confused
Well, lets hope youre never in their position! Shake Head



well thats the point I AM Laugh
Somehow, I think if you were, you wouldnt have posted the above comments and would have said in the FIRST one that you were on the dole and he didnt offend you!!! Roll Eyes



ok then I am a liar Confusedthanks for telling me what I should have wrote Smiler I am living on Income support at the mo a whole ÂĢ22 per week, now if you need any more info I am happy to oblige


"I suspect a lot of people who live with their rich parents (who have paid taxes all their lives), probably see it the same way. Tbh I dont see what all the fuss is about" was the original statement by LN1F....I also agree with LN1F and think this is a fair point to make.

Whether employed or unemployed is irrelevant?

Differences of opinion that's all....that's the way of the world.
Lacey
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by Skylark24:
Well i am not a Freddie fan but having listened to the conversation i dont think he is any different to any young guy with parents, who claim "dole" money as a bit of pocket money, I didnt take his comments as patronising to people who have to live on this amount, infact he probably doesnt have a clue that some folk actually have to live on this amount! In this situation how many young guys do? There are many young folk living with their parents in council homes and dont even know the price of a pint of milk! So i dont think Freddie is any different in that respect. Plus as the convo was with David, i am sure he would have put him right if it had been offensive


Well said Skylark. I`m a freddie fan but I`m not blinded. If he had meant that in an offensive way I would not for one minute be defending him. He was pointing out the meagre amount that people have to live on. "pocket money" has been jumped upon by those who would rather believe he meant it differently. As you said, David would have put him straight if he thought it was a "snobby" slur.


I don`t think it was meant in a patronising way either.

I`ve heard other people who have had to go on the dole say more or less the same thing.
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Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,
old hippy guy
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Originally posted by longcat:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by longcat:
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Congrats to her Clapping
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Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
Eeker How bizarre!! Here we are talking about ppl on the dole, and my daughters just found out shes got her first job!!! Big Grin Not that she was on the dole, luckily, not in that position; Shes only 16, and is going back to 6th form, but she has been trying to get a Saturday job, evening job etc for ages and tried everywhere. Nobody was recruiting and she was getting really fed up, and then just now she got an email telling her she has been successful!!! Big Grin Wo! Maybe now she can start saving to pay for her own JLS tour tickets!!! Laugh
PCE you are giving me a headache. You keep posting your reply at the top of someone else's quote instead of the bottom. I keep thinking your sending invisible messages. Big Grin
Laugh Im trying out google chrome and when I click reply, it starts at the top rather than the bottom like firefox.....

Im liking google chrome, doesnt crash like the useless firefox Mad
I love my Google Chrome Smiler


I'm loving Google Chrome too! Big Grin Having just had a serious malware infection that got through IE I changed to chrome! (I do use firefox for some things though)

This is the only bit of this thread I'm prepared to get involved in! You lot are getting scary! Valentine
Dirtyprettygirlthing
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Originally posted by **Nipple Twister**:
I am with Scotties opinion.


Thankyou. I love differing opinions NT (can`t bring myself to type your full name Laugh)
but in this case I do feel what Freddie said has been misinterpreted by some. I would NOT defend him if I thought he meant it any diffferently.
Dave agreed, what more is there to say?
Scotty
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
A mind reader too? great Laugh
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Cant we all just get along? Smiler


The irony. Laugh

You enjoy goading Big Grin Valentine
You cut me deep right there... That my comment was from the heart Frowner


Oh stop it.


Point proven Laugh
Scotty
If anyone is goading and taunting its you... I have laughed it of but now its getting too much... Please feel free to ignore my posts from now on.... Thanks....
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
A mind reader too? great Laugh
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by Scotty:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
Cant we all just get along? Smiler


The irony. Laugh

You enjoy goading Big Grin Valentine
You cut me deep right there... That my comment was from the heart Frowner


Oh stop it.


Point proven Laugh
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,
You tell em, OHG Valentine He WASN'T being patronising, but note how all of those who actually 'feel' more lowly than Knobber, start to project their own insecurities, onto him LMFAO Big Grin

So the guy's loaded? He can't help it - WTF is he supposed to do, make himself homeless so that some of you idiots can feel better?

Get over it! He's got LOADSA MONEY in his family Roll Eyes
K
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Originally posted by figtree:
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Originally posted by squiggle:
Hi figtree wavey Yes I have just watched it again and he was really trying to empathise with Dave I think and give them a common ground. He can be a bit clumsy in his conversation at times but there's no harm in him at all. If the remark had been offensive David would have been quick to pick up on it.


waveyHi Squiggs did you get my message re salt water rinses for your poorly mouth? I feel for you I have been there! Hug Hug

The thing is with Freddie he is open and honest if he is asked a question he will answer as honestly as he can!Whether the answer isthe one required is a different thing!
I like Freddie for many reasons and I will continue to stick by him! Nod


Yes thanks for that figtree, I did reply straight away but its easy to miss a post on a day like today isn't it? I said I feel a bit muddleheaded with the infection and will probably end up drinking 4 large glasses of salt water and gargling with a large glass of something I fancy wavey Big Grin
squiggle
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,


Too bloody right. Nod
kattymieoww
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by pussycatj:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
We could argue this till the end of the world and still disagree Big Grin....


I disagree PCE Laugh
I disagree that you disagree with me... Big Grin


I agree. Glance
I disagree with you agreeing Big Grin


Let's agree to disagree Laugh
FM
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Originally posted by *KG*:
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,
You tell em, OHG Valentine He WASN'T being patronising, but note how all of those who actually 'feel' more lowly than Knobber, start to project their own insecurities, onto him LMFAO Big Grin

So the guy's loaded? He can't help it - WTF is he supposed to do, make himself homeless so that some of you idiots can feel better?

Get over it! He's got LOADSA MONEY in his family Roll Eyes
Sweeping generalisations.... Everyone who disagrees with you is some insecure knobber? great Disappointed....

Some Freddie fans have been too personal with their comments....
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by Blizzie:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by pussycatj:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
We could argue this till the end of the world and still disagree Big Grin....


I disagree PCE Laugh
I disagree that you disagree with me... Big Grin


I agree. Glance
I disagree with you agreeing Big Grin


Let's agree to disagree Laugh
Or disagree to agree Big Grin
prettycocoaeyes
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Originally posted by *KG*:
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,
You tell em, OHG Valentine He WASN'T being patronising, but note how all of those who actually 'feel' more lowly than Knobber, start to project their own insecurities, onto him LMFAO Big Grin

So the guy's loaded? He can't help it - WTF is he supposed to do, make himself homeless so that some of you idiots can feel better?

Get over it! He's got LOADSA MONEY in his family Roll Eyes


Mad
TiGi
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by *KG*:
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,
You tell em, OHG Valentine He WASN'T being patronising, but note how all of those who actually 'feel' more lowly than Knobber, start to project their own insecurities, onto him LMFAO Big Grin

So the guy's loaded? He can't help it - WTF is he supposed to do, make himself homeless so that some of you idiots can feel better?

Get over it! He's got LOADSA MONEY in his family Roll Eyes
Sweeping generalisations.... Everyone who disagrees with you is some insecure knobber? great Disappointed....

Some Freddie fans have been too personal with their comments....


Sorry, but can't help singing out loud "What a difference a day makes, 24 little hours" Tra La La
FM
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by *KG*:
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,
You tell em, OHG Valentine He WASN'T being patronising, but note how all of those who actually 'feel' more lowly than Knobber, start to project their own insecurities, onto him LMFAO Big Grin

So the guy's loaded? He can't help it - WTF is he supposed to do, make himself homeless so that some of you idiots can feel better?

Get over it! He's got LOADSA MONEY in his family Roll Eyes
Sweeping generalisations.... Everyone who disagrees with you is some insecure knobber? great Disappointed....

Some Freddie fans have been too personal with their comments....
Flippin eck, Laugh I dont think anyone that isnt gunning for halfwit thinks theyre beneath him Laugh Or as as deranged! Laugh
Little Miss Spurs
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,


I agree with everything you`ve said OHG apart from what I`ve bolded. I had a boyfriend (yonks ago) who had rich parents and they didn`t give him a penny. He lived in the Uni halls, wore raggedy jumpers and sandshoes. Chips and curry sauce was a treat for us. They made him make his own way and I admired them for it. Thumbs Up
Scotty
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Originally posted by Supercalifragilistic:
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Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
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Originally posted by *KG*:
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Originally posted by old hippy guy:
Speaking as someone who has been "on the dole" many many times in my life, I wasnt in the LEAST offended by what fred said, the job seekers allowance for a single adult male was about 60 quid a week the last time I was claiming it, about 18 months ago,
60 a week to LIVE on, thats for food, hygiene, utilities, transport, DAMN its hard,
When you consider the likes of Fred would spend more than that on ONE meal, then yeah, I would call it pocket money,
and its a fact that are one of the lowest paid unemployed in western Europe,
You tell em, OHG Valentine He WASN'T being patronising, but note how all of those who actually 'feel' more lowly than Knobber, start to project their own insecurities, onto him LMFAO Big Grin

So the guy's loaded? He can't help it - WTF is he supposed to do, make himself homeless so that some of you idiots can feel better?

Get over it! He's got LOADSA MONEY in his family Roll Eyes
Sweeping generalisations.... Everyone who disagrees with you is some insecure knobber? great Disappointed....

Some Freddie fans have been too personal with their comments....


Sorry, but can't help singing out loud "What a difference a day makes, 24 little hours" Tra La La
Its pathetic... Some of these fans cant defend him anymore now they choose to get personal... Argument lost already... Nobody here knows anyone so I hate it when some people seat on their horses and mete out sweeping judgements from comments on a bliddy forum.... Gahhhhhhhhhhhhh Mad
prettycocoaeyes

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