quote:Originally posted by TiGi:quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:
There's an over use of emoticons in here.
That's inverted emoticon snobbery
He showed his lack of morals.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
Are we heading for 100 pages here?
quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
OMG!!! You STILL havent understood!!! Another fm was suggesting that ppl who dont like Halfwit "feel more lowly" than him. I was saying about tipping your hat etc as a sarcastic remark about the comment made by said fm!! NOT HALFWIT HIMSELF!!
I quite understand. However, you don't seem to understand the point I am making. We don't go around bowing and scraping to people unless they impose these things on us, so why you're comment to PCE? Understand now?
You might have explained that straight away instead of laughing at me not understanding your little in-joke with PCE.
You are rude imo. With your !!! CAPITALS and
to cologne who is trying to explain how she feels.You seem to be losing the sense of forum decorum.
Cologne leave them to it.
quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
He showed his lack of morals.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
Why shouldn't he? his 'wealthy parents' have probably paid more into the system than we ever will!!!! He is an English Citizen and is entitled to claim...or should we now discriminate against peoples backgrounds...
...who's to say his Parents completely support him? Just because THEY'RE wealthy, it doesn't mean he is...
Its just pocket money....quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
He showed his lack of morals.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
No, You got the hump coz I disagreed with you earlier. Cologne made a mistake and in the first post I replied to her I suggested she had misunderstood and should go and look at the posts !! She didnt, then accused me of not filling her in on why she made a mistake. Careful, else you;ll get accused of being a bully too!!!quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
OMG!!! You STILL havent understood!!! Another fm was suggesting that ppl who dont like Halfwit "feel more lowly" than him. I was saying about tipping your hat etc as a sarcastic remark about the comment made by said fm!! NOT HALFWIT HIMSELF!!
I quite understand. However, you don't seem to understand the point I am making. We don't go around bowing and scraping to people unless they impose these things on us, so why you're comment to PCE? Understand now?
You might have explained that straight away instead of laughing at me not understanding your little in-joke with PCE.
You are rude imo. With your !!! CAPITALS and
You seem to be losing the sense of forum decorum.
Cologne leave them to it.
quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
He showed his lack of morals.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
Why shouldn't he? his 'wealthy parents' have probably paid more into the system than we ever will!!!! He is an English Citizen and is entitled to claim...or should we now discriminate against peoples backgrounds...
...who's to say his Parents completely support him? Just because THEY'RE wealthy, it doesn't mean he is...
They probably haven't you know.
quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:Its just pocket money....quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
He showed his lack of morals.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
Oh well that's different then.
quote:Originally posted by paace:quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:
Freddie's parents have the financial wherewithal to afford to live in and own a stately home. They also have the financial clout to send Freddie, his brother, and his two sisters to be educated privately. They view the stately home as a business and have turned their home into a Wedding/Conference venue.
So, would we consider Freddie to be privileged to be born to wealthy parents? To be educated in the best tradition of a classical education which leads to an Oxford Degree? How lucky he is, is what I say to that. He has won first prize in the lottery of life is also what I would say. He is also lucky in that his parents have brought him up to have good manners. They have done a sterling job with Freddie, he is a really decent and respectable boy.
If Freddie has claimed the dole at some point in his life, he is entitled to so so. We all can, rich or poor. It is the Law of the Land, and one that was instigated to help people to find work. It is still a right we all enjoy. To say Freddie is not entitled to claim Unemployment Benefit is to admit to not knowing the Law of the Land, and to segregate people in a class-conscious way. It says more about the people accusing Freddie of his non-entitlement than it does about Freddie himself.
And as for his comment about his 'dole', he did view it as pocket money before he went to Oxford. He probably lived rent-free in the mansion and the dole money enabled him to have a little bit of independence. But he was still entitled to it. And his attitude and stance about the dole in general was said in natural conversation and not to be taken as gospel or a sign of arrogant oneupmanship.
He has a right to claim what he's entitled to, but it doesn't make it the right thing to do and we have a right to object. Like the wealthy claiming their childrens allowance. All these benifits should be means tested.
Well I happen to think that one Law should apply to all, rich or poor. Freddie had the right to claim, and he did. It was at a transition time between College and University as I understand it. His parents, whilst sending him to private school, were also entitled to Child Benefit in respect of him and his siblings. It would be impossible to means test every parent before granting them Child Benefit, surely.
quote:Originally posted by Scotty:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
OMG!!! You STILL havent understood!!! Another fm was suggesting that ppl who dont like Halfwit "feel more lowly" than him. I was saying about tipping your hat etc as a sarcastic remark about the comment made by said fm!! NOT HALFWIT HIMSELF!!
I quite understand. However, you don't seem to understand the point I am making. We don't go around bowing and scraping to people unless they impose these things on us, so why you're comment to PCE? Understand now?
You might have explained that straight away instead of laughing at me not understanding your little in-joke with PCE.
You are rude imo. With your !!! CAPITALS and
You seem to be losing the sense of forum decorum.
Cologne leave them to it.
iagree walk away cologne
LMSquote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
....quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:LMSquote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
Yep just something for the weekend you know....quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:Its just pocket money....quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
He showed his lack of morals.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
Oh well that's different then.
On a serious note, there is a thread on here about govt proposals to take disabled peoples benefits off them and at the other end of the spectrum we have the Halfwitted sons of aritocrats claiming benefits or "pocket money".
I don't see any moral justification for that.
I don't see any moral justification for that.
We've got big Xs on our forum namesquote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:LMSquote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
....quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
He showed his lack of morals.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
Why shouldn't he? his 'wealthy parents' have probably paid more into the system than we ever will!!!! He is an English Citizen and is entitled to claim...or should we now discriminate against peoples backgrounds...
...who's to say his Parents completely support him? Just because THEY'RE wealthy, it doesn't mean he is...
They probably haven't you know.
Gawd!
Whether they have or they haven't, he is ENTITLED to it!!! That's like saying welthy people shouldn't have help with ANYTHING!!!! The 'dole' office decides what people are entitled to...not you!
As for them 'probably not paying into the system', as the open the doors of their home to the Public, I'd say they DO pay alot into the system...
quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:We've got big Xs on our backs you knowquote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:LMSquote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:
How funny!
One final thing....so KIB, you're saying that if you're wealthy you shouldn't claim???
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
On a serious note, there is a thread on here about govt proposals to take disabled peoples benefits off them
Is there any justice in the world? we have young soldier fighting two illegal wars but the sons of the royals and politicians are very well protected in England....
quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
He showed his lack of morals.
Claiming the benefits just because he can, while being supported by wealthy parents.
Why shouldn't he? his 'wealthy parents' have probably paid more into the system than we ever will!!!! He is an English Citizen and is entitled to claim...or should we now discriminate against peoples backgrounds...
...who's to say his Parents completely support him? Just because THEY'RE wealthy, it doesn't mean he is...
Well said and we don't even really know if they are wealthy!
quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
One final thing....so KIB, you're saying that if you're wealthy you shouldn't claim???
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
Pensioners yes, Disabled people yes, Aristocrats kiddies wanting some "pocket money" No.
quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
On a serious note, there is a thread on here about govt proposals to take disabled peoples benefits off them and at the other end of the spectrum we have the Halfwitted sons of aritocrats claiming benefits or "pocket money".
I don't see any moral justification for that.
This family round the corner from us have been scamming the social for years, have loads of kids, claim disability for a "back problem" that doesnt really exist (the guy manages to play football, work on the side as a removal man and is always doing DIY with his ill-gotten -gains etc)and claim the woman is a single parent! These are the sort of people who should have all benefits stopped and never reinstated!quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
One final thing....so KIB, you're saying that if you're wealthy you shouldn't claim???
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
On a serious note, there is a thread on here about govt proposals to take disabled peoples benefits off them and at the other end of the spectrum we have the Halfwitted sons of aritocrats claiming benefits or "pocket money".
I don't see any moral justification for that.
There is something rotten in the Benefits system, whereby people who are not really disabled are claiming money to which they are not entitled. That has to stop and some people are being filmed, as I type, proving that they are not disabled and therefore not entitled to claim money from the State. It's called fraud in DSS circles, I believe.
But what Freddie has done by claiming the dole is claiming what is rightfully his by Law. There really is a difference. One is lawful, the other unlawful.
quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
On a serious note, there is a thread on here about govt proposals to take disabled peoples benefits off them
Is there any justice in the world? we have young soldier fighting two illegal wars but the sons of the royals and politicians are very well protected in England....
Thats another subject but I agree with you 100%, send the sons of the royals and politicians in first and lets see how committed they are to their cause.
Oh goodness, if only he'd said wallet money. 
quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
One final thing....so KIB, you're saying that if you're wealthy you shouldn't claim???
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
Pensioners yes, Disabled people yes, Aristocrats kiddies wanting some "pocket money" No.quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
On a serious note, there is a thread on here about govt proposals to take disabled peoples benefits off them and at the other end of the spectrum we have the Halfwitted sons of aritocrats claiming benefits or "pocket money".
I don't see any moral justification for that.
So, if you're wealthy and have a disabled child, what then...are they allowed to ask for Government help or not???? Should they just 'soldier on' without help because they're wealthy????
quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:This family round the corner from us have been scamming the social for years, have loads of kids, claim disability for a "back problem" that doesnt really exist (the guy manages to play football, work on the side as a removal man and is always doing DIY with his ill-gotten -gains etc)and claim the woman is a single parent! These are the sort of people who should have all benefits stopped and never reinstated!quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
One final thing....so KIB, you're saying that if you're wealthy you shouldn't claim???
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
Phone the "shop a cheat" DWP line then.
quote:Originally posted by Twee Surgeon:quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
On a serious note, there is a thread on here about govt proposals to take disabled peoples benefits off them and at the other end of the spectrum we have the Halfwitted sons of aritocrats claiming benefits or "pocket money".
I don't see any moral justification for that.
There is something rotten in the Benefits system, whereby people who are not really disabled are claiming money to which they are not entitled. That has to stop and some people are being filmed, as I type, proving that they are not disabled and therefore not entitled to claim money from the State. It's called fraud in DSS circles, I believe.
But what Freddie has done by claiming the dole is claiming what is rightfully his by Law. There really is a difference. One is lawful, the other unlawful.
Thankyou Twee
LMS...sickening isn't it
200% agree... Maybe there needs to be a rule, all ist sons of British citizens need to be sent out to war if the need arises maybe that way the royals/politicians/aristocats cant avoid it....quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
On a serious note, there is a thread on here about govt proposals to take disabled peoples benefits off them
Is there any justice in the world? we have young soldier fighting two illegal wars but the sons of the royals and politicians are very well protected in England....
Thats another subject but I agree with you 100%, send the sons of the royals and politicians in first and lets see how committed they are to their cause.
He should have just said help from the government or good ol' benefits....
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Oh goodness, if only he'd said wallet money.
Several of us families around here already have. They go and investigate, they talk their way out of it, the bloke moves out for a few weeks to make it look like she IS living alone; Then moves back in! This "shop a benefits cheat" does not always work!quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:This family round the corner from us have been scamming the social for years, have loads of kids, claim disability for a "back problem" that doesnt really exist (the guy manages to play football, work on the side as a removal man and is always doing DIY with his ill-gotten -gains etc)and claim the woman is a single parent! These are the sort of people who should have all benefits stopped and never reinstated!quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
One final thing....so KIB, you're saying that if you're wealthy you shouldn't claim???
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
Phone the "shop a cheat" DWP line then.
quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:200% agree... Maybe there needs to be a rule, all ist sons of British citizens need to be sent out to war if the need arises maybe that way the royals/politicians/aristocats cant avoid it....quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
Thats another subject but I agree with you 100%, send the sons of the royals and politicians in first and lets see how committed they are to their cause.
I was tempted to 300% agree, but I don't.
I know its pretty extreme but that would ensure they dont bypass the law as they usually do....quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:200% agree... Maybe there needs to be a rule, all ist sons of British citizens need to be sent out to war if the need arises maybe that way the royals/politicians/aristocats cant avoid it....quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:
Thats another subject but I agree with you 100%, send the sons of the royals and politicians in first and lets see how committed they are to their cause.
I was tempted to 300% agree, but I don't.
quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
I know its pretty extreme but that would ensure they dont bypass the law as they usually do....
I'd rather use the Armed Forces.
They are better trained.
quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:Several of us families around here already have. They go and investigate, they talk their way out of it, the bloke moves out for a few weeks to make it look like she IS living alone; Then moves back in! This "shop a benefits cheat" does not always work!quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:This family round the corner from us have been scamming the social for years, have loads of kids, claim disability for a "back problem" that doesnt really exist (the guy manages to play football, work on the side as a removal man and is always doing DIY with his ill-gotten -gains etc)and claim the woman is a single parent! These are the sort of people who should have all benefits stopped and never reinstated!quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
One final thing....so KIB, you're saying that if you're wealthy you shouldn't claim???
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
Phone the "shop a cheat" DWP line then.
There are always people like this or Halfwit who know exactly how to work the system.
The pity is when the govt do anything it is always the genuine cases that are affected whilst the con artists know all the tricks.
Ok then...quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
I know its pretty extreme but that would ensure they dont bypass the law as they usually do....
I'd rather use the Armed Forces.
They are better trained.
I can't believe this has been going on for 27 pages! quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by pretty~cocoa~eyes:
I know its pretty extreme but that would ensure they dont bypass the law as they usually do....
I'd rather use the Armed Forces.
They are better trained.
MMmm.. not done much good so far, probably better not to have unneccesary and unwinnable wars imo.
At least if the deciders had a personal stake they might not be so quick to go to war.
quote:Originally posted by Kris Is Bliss:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:Several of us families around here already have. They go and investigate, they talk their way out of it, the bloke moves out for a few weeks to make it look like she IS living alone; Then moves back in! This "shop a benefits cheat" does not always work!quote:Originally posted by kattymieoww:quote:Originally posted by Little Miss Spurs:This family round the corner from us have been scamming the social for years, have loads of kids, claim disability for a "back problem" that doesnt really exist (the guy manages to play football, work on the side as a removal man and is always doing DIY with his ill-gotten -gains etc)and claim the woman is a single parent! These are the sort of people who should have all benefits stopped and never reinstated!quote:Originally posted by The Devil In Diamante:
One final thing....so KIB, you're saying that if you're wealthy you shouldn't claim???
What if you're a wealthy pensior who's worked hard all their life? Should they not get their pensions? Does it still apply then!!!??
Phone the "shop a cheat" DWP line then.
There are always people like this or Halfwit who know exactly how to work the system.
The pity is when the govt do anything it is always the genuine cases that are affected whilst the con artists know all the tricks.
Hlafwit has hardly worked the system! ;laugh: he claimed dole before college, big deal, he was hardly claiming incapicty benefit and claiming he was unfit to work...I give up..