quote:Originally posted by stonks:
He was joking, he said she should be doing work somewhere and that she was lazy..considering she's in her 60's I did take it as a joke....
Eactly Stonks. She's 67 years old for Heavens sake!
Eactly Stonks. She's 67 years old for Heavens sake!
quote:Originally posted by *BB*:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
...a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national televsion?
If he can say such a horrible thing about his own mother then it's hardly suprising that he's been so disrespectful to all the female housemates. :-/
OMG! Sense of humour bypass?
Apparently so.
Glad to hear itquote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by CaptVimes:quote:Originally posted by cologne1:quote:Originally posted by CaptVimes:
For people trying to compare their family with Marcus's
I take it that you had a father in your life. You werent put into care. Your mother didnt leave you and your brother to fend for yourselves.
Thankfully my father and mother are wonderful people and if i called my mother anything like that my dad would hit me and i would deserve it.
I was adopted. I wont go into my 'real' family.
CV, I had a lovely childhood and my parents were the best, but nothing is ever straightforward.
...yes nothing is as simple as it seems.
quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
...a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national televsion?
If he can say such a horrible thing about his own mother then it's hardly suprising that he's been so disrespectful to all the female housemates. :-/
Saw his Mum on BBLB and she seemed a really nice lady. She's probably used to how he is but it did come across as disrespectful and surely he doesn't have to make a joke out of everything
quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
...a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national televsion?
If he can say such a horrible thing about his own mother then it's hardly suprising that he's been so disrespectful to all the female housemates. :-/
Saw his Mum on BBLB and she seemed a really nice lady. She's probably used to how he is but it did come across as disrespectful and surely he doesn't have to make a joke out of everything
Thanks. I thought it was me against the forum for a while.
Was getting a bit scarey.
quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by Yellow Rose:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
...a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national televsion?
If he can say such a horrible thing about his own mother then it's hardly suprising that he's been so disrespectful to all the female housemates. :-/
Saw his Mum on BBLB and she seemed a really nice lady. She's probably used to how he is but it did come across as disrespectful and surely he doesn't have to make a joke out of everything
Thanks. I thought it was me against the forum for a while.
dont feel like that
we all just have different ways of seeing things i dont like all the language he uses, but the way he spoke made me think he was joking. wouldn't have sworn so much at my mum whilst jokingly calling her a name.....she'd have clouted me
quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Marcus mom probably found it funny because thats the way he is, she knows him better than anyone else of course.
HEHE well said Darlo,
I have JUST logged on since watching the HLs, and when he said that, OBVIOUS JOKE,
I turned to my OH and said there will be a thread about this and "they" will ALL be in,(was I wrong)?
you should hear some of the things my OH and her ADULT son say to each other, and there is NO DOUBT in MY mind that they LOVE each other to bits, they are more like best friends than mother and son, there is NO "disrespect" between them AT ALL, in fact they "joke around" with each other and sometimes say the most shocking things to each other IN JEST, BECAUSE their bond is so strong,
and I have NO DOUBT whatsoever that the same thing is true of Marcus and his mum,
but HEY the "high n mighty" of the forum think THEY know how their relationship is...NO, they seem to think they have the RIGHT to dictate how it SHOULD be, how bloody DARE they,
Not wishing to call my mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national television has nothing to do with being high and mighty. If you want to see it that way then that's your choice.
quote:Originally posted by CaptVimes:He is crass, he is rude and he punctuates everything with many and varied swear words. I can totally understand how that upsets people but how could you for one moment think he seriously meant any of that to a mother he looks after. The character assassination of HMs this year has gone to another level.quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by Jenny:
His mother lives with him, not the other way around.
If there were issues I would guess they have sorted out their differences by now.
She had a twinkle in her eyes when she was talking to George Lamb about Marcus.
His sense of humour might not be to everyone's liking, but he did seem he was joking when he said that about his mum.
You know what? I think that's what it is. I fail to see the funny side of him directing a barrage of obscenities at his mother, on TV.
I can't begin to pretend to understand the upbringing he may or may not have had. If that is the reason for what he said, then I feel sorry for him. I truely do.
However, if as many in this thread have suggested, he said it because it was him being humerous, then I'm glad I don't find him funny. That kind of language, particularly when directed at his mother, is not my idea of TV Gold.
I agree Capt
I have the sort of relationship with my sons where we joke and call each other all sorts
We feel comfortable with it because we are confident in our love for each other
quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Not wishing to call my mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national television has nothing to do with being high and mighty. If you want to see it that way then that's your choice.
YOU are the one passing judgements on SOMEONE ELSES relationship NOT me, I know this, if ANYONE tried dictating to ME as to how I should speak to MY mother or MY friends, ESPECIALY if it was a total stranger who knows JACK SHIT about ME OR MINE,....well, they would soon be having a "re think"
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by darloboy07:
Marcus mom probably found it funny because thats the way he is
HEHE well said Darlo,
I have JUST logged on since watching the HLs, and when he said that, OBVIOUS JOKE,
I turned to my OH and said there will be a thread about this and "they" will ALL be in,(was I wrong)?
you should hear some of the things my OH and her ADULT son say to each other, and there is NO DOUBT in MY mind that they LOVE each other to bits, they are more like best friends than mother and son, there is NO "disrespect" between them AT ALL, in fact they "joke around" with each other and sometimes say the most shocking things to each other IN JEST, BECAUSE their bond is so strong,
and I have NO DOUBT whatsoever that the same thing is true of Marcus and his mum,
but HEY the "high n mighty" of the forum think THEY know how their relationship is...NO, they seem to think they have the RIGHT to dictate how it SHOULD be, how bloody DARE they,
I'm sure Marcus loves his Mum or why else would he let her live with him. The only point being made by some of us is Marcus is tv savvy, or BB savvy. He must know his remarks would be broadcast, ok it's seen as his jokey way because of how he is, but not everyone viewing might see it that way
quote:Originally posted by kazzy:quote:Originally posted by CaptVimes:He is crass, he is rude and he punctuates everything with many and varied swear words. I can totally understand how that upsets people but how could you for one moment think he seriously meant any of that to a mother he looks after. The character assassination of HMs this year has gone to another level.quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by Jenny:
His mother lives with him, not the other way around.
If there were issues I would guess they have sorted out their differences by now.
She had a twinkle in her eyes when she was talking to George Lamb about Marcus.
His sense of humour might not be to everyone's liking, but he did seem he was joking when he said that about his mum.
You know what? I think that's what it is. I fail to see the funny side of him directing a barrage of obscenities at his mother, on TV.
I can't begin to pretend to understand the upbringing he may or may not have had. If that is the reason for what he said, then I feel sorry for him. I truely do.
However, if as many in this thread have suggested, he said it because it was him being humerous, then I'm glad I don't find him funny. That kind of language, particularly when directed at his mother, is not my idea of TV Gold.
I agree Capt
I have the sort of relationship with my sons where we joke and call each other all sorts
We feel comfortable with it because we are confident in our love for each other
I think the people here KNOW this, but its yet ANOTHER excuse to bash Marcus and they just CANT let one go by without having a snide "dig",
as I have said before the more he winds "them" up the more I like him,
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Not wishing to call my mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national television has nothing to do with being high and mighty. If you want to see it that way then that's your choice.
YOU are the one passing judgements on SOMEONE ELSES relationship NOT me, I know this, if ANYONE tried dictating to ME as to how I should speak to MY mother or MY friends, ESPECIALY if it was a total stranger who knows JACK SHIT about ME OR MINE,....well, they would soon be having a "re think"
In which case I am happy to accept the title of high and mighty.
With this title, I say that Marcus was a complete disgrace tonight.
As a high and mighty person I say there is never a time or a place for calling your mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag, and certainly not on national television.
As a high and mighty person I say he's a disrespectful little man who needs to grow up, start acting his age, and learn how to communicate without the necessity of using vulgarity whenever possible.
As a high and mighty person I say he's let himself down BIG TIME tonight.
Edit: Oh and by the way, if a complete stranger is having to tell you that the way in which you speak to your mother is disgusting, and disrespectful... chances are... they're right.
quote:Originally posted by cologne1:
He appears to be the one looking after his mother rather than his brother. He's very unassuming really and has been throughout BB even although it might not be obviously apparant.
She has a room in the house, but I doubt she's 'looked after' by him, considering he just packed a suitcase and didn't tell her he could be away for over three months!
Maybe she doesn't mind, so are we allowed to feel that he has absolutely NO right to talk to other people, who are only doing their jobs on BB, like that?
Or is that a 'special case' too?
Or is that a 'special case' too?
quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Not wishing to call my mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national television has nothing to do with being high and mighty. If you want to see it that way then that's your choice.
I can see it from your point of view, but people often complain about HMs being false and not being themselves. Here we have a perfect example of a HM being true to himself. This is one of the many reasons that I support Marcus. He is being real! He's not putting on any act.
quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Not wishing to call my mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national television has nothing to do with being high and mighty. If you want to see it that way then that's your choice.
YOU are the one passing judgements on SOMEONE ELSES relationship NOT me, I know this, if ANYONE tried dictating to ME as to how I should speak to MY mother or MY friends, ESPECIALY if it was a total stranger who knows JACK SHIT about ME OR MINE,....well, they would soon be having a "re think"
In which case I am happy to accept the title of high and mighty.
With this title, I say that Marcus was a complete disgrace tonight.
As a high and mighty person I say there is never a time or a place for calling your mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag, and certainly not on national television.
As a high and mighty person I say he's a disrespectful little man who needs to grow up, start acting his age, and learn how to communicate without the necessity of using vulgarity whenever possible.
As a high and mighty person I say he's let himself down BIG TIME tonight.
Edit: Oh and by the way, if a complete stranger is having to tell you that the way in which you speak to your mother is disgusting, and disrespectful... chances are... they're right.
WHY would they be RIGHT?? if a complete stranger overheard a conversation between me and my mother (not very likely as she has been dead for over 20 years, but for the sake of argument)
they would have NO IDEA about our relationship or how deeply we loved each other, in short it would have NOTHING to do with them, and they would soon be eating through a straw,
anyway this is getting a bit like the angry bloke off Harry Enfield now..."if HE came round MY house" etc etc,
I will just say that I think Marcus loves his mum and would NOT have said those things if he thought for ONE SECOND that she would be offended by them,
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Maybe she doesn't mind, so are we allowed to feel that he has absolutely NO right to talk to other people, who are only doing their jobs on BB, like that?
Or is that a 'special case' too?
well if you want to be angry FOR someone go ahead, I think BB are QUITE able to decide if they are offended and what to do about it for themselves, though,
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:
Maybe she doesn't mind, so are we allowed to feel that he has absolutely NO right to talk to other people, who are only doing their jobs on BB, like that?
Or is that a 'special case' too?
well if you want to be angry FOR someone go ahead, I think BB are QUITE able to decide if they are offended and what to do about it for themselves, though,
He's the one who moans on and on about how they never have a laugh with him. If he's got to that age and hasn't worked out that some people find being talked to like that highly offensive and not in the least funny, then that shows a complete lack of empathy and low emotional intelligence.
And if I can hear it in their voices that he pisses them off by talking to them like that, should I apologise for feeling empathy for them?
I've heard mums and dads and their grown up kids call eachother all sorts of things that would make a docker curl up his toes.
It's a close relationship thing that you can be blunt with those closest to you.
It's a close relationship thing that you can be blunt with those closest to you.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by ΡΟΞΉβΡΡΠΌΟΞ·ΠΊΡΞ³:
Not wishing to call my mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag on national television has nothing to do with being high and mighty. If you want to see it that way then that's your choice.
YOU are the one passing judgements on SOMEONE ELSES relationship NOT me, I know this, if ANYONE tried dictating to ME as to how I should speak to MY mother or MY friends, ESPECIALY if it was a total stranger who knows JACK SHIT about ME OR MINE,....well, they would soon be having a "re think"
In which case I am happy to accept the title of high and mighty.
With this title, I say that Marcus was a complete disgrace tonight.
As a high and mighty person I say there is never a time or a place for calling your mother a f*cking lazy b*stard mingebag, and certainly not on national television.
As a high and mighty person I say he's a disrespectful little man who needs to grow up, start acting his age, and learn how to communicate without the necessity of using vulgarity whenever possible.
As a high and mighty person I say he's let himself down BIG TIME tonight.
Edit: Oh and by the way, if a complete stranger is having to tell you that the way in which you speak to your mother is disgusting, and disrespectful... chances are... they're right.
WHY would they be RIGHT?? if a complete stranger overheard a conversation between me and my mother (not very likely as she has been dead for over 20 years, but for the sake of argument)
they would have NO IDEA about our relationship or how deeply we loved each other, in short it would have NOTHING to do with them, and they would soon be eating through a straw,
anyway this is getting a bit like the angry bloke off Harry Enfield now..."if HE came round MY house" etc etc,
I will just say that I think Marcus loves his mum and would NOT have said those things if he thought for ONE SECOND that she would be offended by them,
I agree completely.... Whatever anyone thinks of Marcus' attitude or manners he has a good heart. If he thought for one minute his comments would have upset his mum there is no way he would have said it. People need to understand that not all parent/children relationships are the "norm"
It certainly doesnt mean that we dont love or respect them any less
Did anyone see Marcus's teary eyes when Charlie had his message from his dad.?
Marcus does have a good heart.
Marcus does have a good heart.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I've heard mums and dads and their grown up kids call eachother all sorts of things that would make a docker curl up his toes.
It's a close relationship thing that you can be blunt with those closest to you.
WE know that mate, and I suspect so do THEY, but it was a good excuse, for an indignation bidding session,(I am outraged...well I am MORE outraged than YOU, I will see your "outraged" and raise you a "disgusted")
wondering where the OUTRAGE is at Sophies language?....AH but shes "pretty"
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I've heard mums and dads and their grown up kids call eachother all sorts of things that would make a docker curl up his toes.
It's a close relationship thing that you can be blunt with those closest to you.
WE know that mate, and I suspect so do THEY, but it was a good excuse, for an indignation bidding session,(I am outraged...well I am MORE outraged than YOU, I will see your "outraged" and raise you a "disgusted")
I'm pushing "all in" with my appalled
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I've heard mums and dads and their grown up kids call eachother all sorts of things that would make a docker curl up his toes.
It's a close relationship thing that you can be blunt with those closest to you.
WE know that mate, and I suspect so do THEY, but it was a good excuse, for an indignation bidding session,(I am outraged...well I am MORE outraged than YOU, I will see your "outraged" and raise you a "disgusted")
Looking like it, Marcus still going strong in the betting, some getting nervous.
quote:WE know that mate, and I suspect so do THEY, but it was a good excuse, for an indignation bidding session,(I am outraged...well I am MORE outraged than YOU, I will see your "outraged" and raise you a "disgusted")
Stop it!
I can't breathe when I laugh! quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
wondering where the OUTRAGE is at Sophies language?....AH but shes "pretty"
I suspect that if Marcus looked like Kris, he'd still be a wanker.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
I've heard mums and dads and their grown up kids call eachother all sorts of things that would make a docker curl up his toes.
It's a close relationship thing that you can be blunt with those closest to you.
WE know that mate, and I suspect so do THEY, but it was a good excuse, for an indignation bidding session,(I am outraged...well I am MORE outraged than YOU, I will see your "outraged" and raise you a "disgusted")
Looking like it, Marcus still going strong in the betting, some getting nervous.
yip LOVING the way he has "turned it around" more and more people are "getting him".
when he first came in my OH said "oh hey up...one for you" cause he LOOKS like the "type" who are my friends, this made me very suspicious of him and DETERMINED NOT to like him just for that reason,
so I "bided" my time for a bit, the night he stood up to Lisa was the turning point for me, he is head and shoulders above the others in there IMO, and I would LOVE him to win, but sadly I just cant see the GBP going for a real person instead of a Z list wannabe,
OHG, the night Marcus stood up to Lisa he became the second coming of Winston Churchill, a true hero.
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
wondering where the OUTRAGE is at Sophies language?....AH but shes "pretty"
I suspect that if Marcus looked like Kris, he'd still be a wanker.
HAHA being a "wanker" is a state of mind,and nowt to do with "self love".....I HOPE,
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
wondering where the OUTRAGE is at Sophies language?....AH but shes "pretty"
I suspect that if Marcus looked like Kris, he'd still be a wanker.
If Marcus looked like Kris he would never have been called a perv or slated just for fancying women.
quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by old hippy guy:
wondering where the OUTRAGE is at Sophies language?....AH but shes "pretty"
I suspect that if Marcus looked like Kris, he'd still be a wanker.
HAHA being a "wanker" is a state of mind,and nowt to do with "self love".....I HOPE,
Indeed!
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
If Marcus looked like Kris he would never have been called a perv or slated just for fancying women.
If he had treated a woman as Marcus treated Noirin, he would have been called all the appropriate words, at least by me!
That wasn't just fancying. It was pretty scary!
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
If Marcus looked like Kris he would never have been called a perv or slated just for fancying women.
If he had treated a woman as Marcus treated Noirin, he would have been called all the appropriate words, at least by me!
That wasn't just fancying. It was pretty scary!
Marcus never treated Noirin like anything, she was the one that used him.
Are there STILL misguided people that believe that Noirin was Little Red Ridinghood.?
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Marcus never treated Noirin like anything, she was the one that used him.
Are there STILL misguided people that believe that Noirin was Little Red Ridinghood.?
I couldn't stand the woman, but I know what I saw and heard!
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Marcus never treated Noirin like anything, she was the one that used him.
Are there STILL misguided people that believe that Noirin was Little Red Ridinghood.?
I couldn't stand the woman, but I know what I saw and heard!
Well then you'll know that like Sree and Siavash, Marcus was a very confused man at Noirin's mixed messaged behaviour.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Well then you'll know that like Sree and Siavash, Marcus was a very confused man at Noirin's mixed messaged behaviour.
Not from what he said.
Unless he was lying!
quote:Originally posted by Blizzie:quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
Well then you'll know that like Sree and Siavash, Marcus was a very confused man at Noirin's mixed messaged behaviour.
Not from what he said.
Unless he was lying!
He was always saying that she just changes her mind all the time and does herself no favours.
When on earth has he lie about her.?
She was the liar, lets not forget that.
quote:Originally posted by Videostar:
He was always saying that she just changes her mind all the time and does herself no favours.
When on earth has he lie about her.?
She was the liar, lets not forget that.
He said that he was just chasing her, because he was bored. He knew that she had said that she didn't fancy him, but wanted to chase her anyway.
He spent most of the time telling her how she should be and trying to mold her into the woman she should be, in his eyes, and invested a lot of time in isolating her from others.
He also did the same with others, telling them to trust no one but him.
Very manipulative and controlling - scary!