Dexter to Callum'On paper you spank my ass and stick it in me'

 

 

Nothing about Dexter bending him over ,nothing mentioned about Dexter 'sticking' it in him.

Callum lied and made the most vile allegation against Dexter and BB should take action .Even if the action is to play the words used to the house,so they know who the liar of the house is .

I did read a little bit about this on DS yesterday.  I'm not a big fan of either of them but that's a horrible lie to tell.

Sorry Erinp , but I don't think he did make any vile accusations ....Callum said quite clearly last night that he accepted there was no sexual connotation to it. Like I said in the HL thread ...IMO opinion the whole episode was stupid ...just two wannabe alpha males scoring points ...and most of the fervour ( and accusations about who said what) has been whipped up outside the House . From my standpoint ...and I did hear it at the time .... I think what Dexter said was a fairly crude way to put across his point ...which I concede was actually quite a valid one . But how come no one beats the drum and asks for Dexter to be censured for saying Callum has * serial killer eyes* ....what's good for the goose is good for the gander

Callum twisted the words that Dexter said so many times until he came up with his final version of the convo, and then kept repeating it over and over adding more emphasis with his voice getting louder - and he included the word rape. I knew Dexter hadn't said it in the way Callum alleged as I watched it that night.

 

There are viewers who just watch hl's and could believe Callum. BB should prove to the viewers - and hm's if they haven't - that Callum made a disgusting allegation and should apologise to him.

But Callum didn't say what you said he did on the HLs YR, so HL viewers aren't going to be swayed by it , are they ??? On the HL show he said quite clearly that it wasn't sexual ...

Sorry Baz but he said 'Bend me over and stick his cock in me' (his words not mine)he said that he spent 15 mis speaking about it 'up there' pointing to the DR

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Callum said he was being 'specific' about the exact words used.!!!

Sorry , I can't watch the clips Erinp ...so I will take your word for it ...but firstly, we only get two hours LF ...so how do we know that Dexter didn't say it at some other time ....he already has at least one warning for inappropriate language ....secondly, I am sure that if Dexter didn't say those things BB would have refuted it and given Callum a warning ....and whatever else he is Callum isn't stupid .

Erin there have been endless conversations where Dexter has sought Callum out to go over and over what each others strengths and weaknesses are - they are pointless and boring conversations where he says you are good at this and I am good at that ......I predict this etc.

 

ALL of these conversations are all instigated by Dexter and he tries to tie Callum up in knots. He uses weird terminology like slicing each others faces off and sticking one in him etc. The whole point of these conversations (all instigated by Dexter) are to intimidate and belittle (IMO) - he may or may not have said those exact words although he puts his hands up and says he may have.

 

The whole pont is - Dexter goes out of his way to talk down to Callum and belittle him.

 

I'm flabbergasted that the majority on here don't see it.

We will just have to agree to disagree

On that I can agree Erinp

I agree it was a watered down version on hl's, but the inference was still there that Dex made a lewd comment to him. I still think BB should make it clear to the viewers - who watched the lf as well - that Dex didn't say what Callum said he did. I'm annoyed because I can't stand injustice...nothing I say is aimed at Callum fans here btw

Sorry Erin I think that's a bit of a cop out . Not being confrontational honestly I'm not but I think this is all very one sided -  there is loads of stuff bashing Callum and his few supporters try and put there point over.

 

It is rarely aknowledged TBH - all Dexters bad points are glossed over for some reason including his disgusting VT tape which he doesn't deny.

 

At least aknowledge my post ......do you not think Dexter tries to belittle Callum? Have you seen any of these conversations?

I think the point being made was that Dexter tries to belittle him at any given opportunity. The terminology and sexual referencing is all rather irrelevant IMO - it didn't go out on the HL show either so that's really all a bit of a red herring.

We don't actually get to see the house 24 hours a day don't forget so even if you watch live feed you are never going to get a true picture of what's been going on between Callum and Dexter.  Gina knows Dexter better than most and she knew he was being serious when he tried to pass it off as 'jovial'.  Sam confronted him too and Dexter had no answer for him.  I'm not a big fan of WUM's and I recognise an expert in Dexter.

I think they're about equal on saying what they think of each other, they're both very descriptive in their choice of words. I just hope Dex has stood by his word not to speak Callum to avoid any more conflict, and that BB stop pushing them together just to get footage they want the public to respond to.

But how do you know he didn't YR ...maybe in another conversation ?? I really don't the the BB producers would have let Callum get away with saying it if it wasn't true ....not after last years fiasco ...especially as they know Dexter is media savvy enough that he could threaten to sue them The bottom line is without 24 hour LF none of us know the whole truth of the situation ...therefore the position we take on it depends on how we view a particular HM As for the people in the house believing it, or not , it really makes no difference to the outcome ...

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Callum has a massive inferiority complex/chip on his shoulder and he 'feels' that Dexter has a superiority complex. The fact that Callum feels this way does not make it true.

Callum breast beats and fluffs up his feathers at Dexter, telling Dex that he (Callum) is intellectually superior and 'do not underestimate me' rubbish, then moans that Dexter belittles him when Dex retaliates by saying that he is more streetwise/savvy. 

Callum mentioned the night it happened and who was nearby in the kitchen at the time, that's the night I and others who were watching also remember the convo. I'm just saying that Dexter didn't say the version that Callum came up with eventually.

 Callum altered and exaggerated what Dexter actually said.

With regards to what they think about each other.

 

I was a bit  ..........when Dexter came out of the SH - marched straight up to Callum and said I don't like you ...so there (or as good as) - he went on to say how he and Callum despised each other (Callum looked shocked at this cos I don't think at that point he ever despised Dexter).

 

I was really shocked and surprised at the outburst as I had warmed to Dexter at the time and really couldn't understand it.

 

I now fully understand ..........he watched from theS H and saw that Callum was getting a hard time - instead of coming out and befriending him he took the opportunity to side with others against Callum thus increasing his own popularity and sidelining the weakest (in poularity) in the house. A very calculated and cunning plan ..........he went on to nit pick away at Callum - getting inside his head and under his skin in the hope that he'd eventually blow.

 

Kudos to him - his plan worked .......very cunning guy but it is for those reasons I'd hate to see him win.

didn't the HL show also put the part in where Callum states it wasn't meant as sexual it was metaphorical whatever the exact wording was?

 

Anyone knows silly people say things like that especially little boys squaring up   trying to get one over each other..  non of which they would actually do. . different areas of the country or even a town or group have different sayings too, all more or less saying I'll spank your arse in anything. . again that's a saying I have heard more in my area and is not sexual at all just means I'd come out on top every time. . again not sexual..  only Gina thought it was sexual and started that off as she had a filthy mind and the more of these sayings you go thru you can make them all appear sexual.. got a filthy mind myself 

 

Callum did get so wound up he twisted the final wording in his own head..  not anything sexual but more because he wanted to emphasise  his 'poor me this is how small I felt when he said that to me' point by repeating it and playing Chinese whispers with himself so the end result was something different..  and telling all who would or had to listen how awful Dexter was for doing that to him..  fairly sure the HL's got that point across as well as both knowing it was non sexual too,  just 2 silly little boys trying to do 'tough guy' chat.... 

Dexter must have said it at some point as he agreed he'd said it and BB would be in trouble for letting Callum get away with possibly ruining someone's reputation in the outside world.

As others have said Dexter has said  quite a few nasty comments to Callum, one being he wanted to slice his face off but nothing is said about that

Both are trying to fight for the position of top dog and both are getting nasty with their comments and viewers should acknowledge both sides of it 

I think in some respects they both have a bit of an inferiority complex Yogi ...the difference being that whereas Dexter is an ace manipulator and , as he says himself , is very media savvy. Callum on the other hand , despite his academic prowess , is awkward, a bit inept, with bull in a china shop tendencies ....something that Dexter, by continually pressing his buttons , has used very effectively against him . Callum's biggest weakness is that he doesn't know when to shut up , stand back and let Dexter hang himself with his own petard I know we aren't ever going to agree on this...but I do find that the fact that Gina has stood up for Callum on more one occasion gives me hope that my feelings about Callum may not be so far off the mark

This is getting confusing lol. I remember that after Dex came out the SH he complimented Callum because he'd not heard him say a bad word about him in the DR or the house. He's complimented Callum a couple of times on what he observed of him in the house at that time

yeah he said that in response to the lush Gina asking in her baby girl all innocent voice but whaaaaaaat does it meeeeeeean over and over as she clung on to her pint of wine. . he followed with,  it's not for real ... it's a joke... it's a metaphorical saying,  that's [the bit in black]  just the literal meaning of the stick it to you comments.. or words to that effect..

 

Not saying he wasn't going off waaay too much at Dexter but he didn't finish his sentence after only saying the bit in black, that is really misleading...  bit like BB editing ..  

Do you not remember him walking up to Callum right out of the blue and saying - I don't like you? I have a vivid recollection of that because I was  where did that come from? I think Callum was the same. It was all a bit contrived and unecessary ...................I know I'm not mad - I know I saw it because that's when I started to fo off Dexter.

I've noticed in this series that when one person says something (mostly Dan) the rest take the opinion on, Dan didn't like wolfy yet the twins did until listening to Dan then they changed their opinion, the same has happened with Callum, Dan started it and Dexter has carried it on, I think it was him that started the creepy name and low and behold Sophie nominates him and her reason is he's creepy  pack mentality right there before you

We have a saying up here, 'If ye cannae take it, then don't gie it out.'

Callum boasted about his intellectual superiority, and then got outplayed by the savvy chancer. His bleating about being belittled smacks of a sore loser to me. 

Sorry Baz, I love you loads but we are never going to agree on this one.

no that is not it at all... similar but not it. . that was a couple of nights ago..

 

  he was referring to a convo with Dexter on the night Jackie left and he Dexter and 2 others were in the kitchen having separate convo's. .

 

that ^^^^ was a whole different convo. .

 

He even said on the LF it was a few weeks  ago when asked when it was supposed to have been said..

Lol...no problem Yogi : hug: I will say this though ...Gina has reminded Dexter on more than one occasion that he never saw Callum say on bad thing about either of them when they were watching from the SH ...yet Dexter said when he went in that he would be looking for it . That suggests to me that Dexter's dislike of Callum , far precedes Callum's dislike of Dexter ....

I honestly don't remember that remark Sooz. I could be wrong but I think the real problem between those 2 started when they showed an interest in Charlie - Lord knows why as she's never been seriously interested in either of them. Callum got far too smitten with her to an almost suffocating degree. For her to then nominate him over Dex was probably the worst thing for him to realise, maybe that's what triggered the other night

Thanks Olly ...like I say I can't see the clips ...so am at a bit of a disadvantage ...however , I did seem to remember he had been quite explicit in the convo I saw ...which was certainly around a table ( or kitchen work surface) with at least one other person there ....

 Found something we can agree on!

In the SH, Dex was looking to see if Callum would bad mouth him, because Callum had nommed him in F to F noms when Dexter had thought they were friends - and Callum nommed Dex because he wrongly thought that Dexter was calling him fake when Dex tried to warn him that being overly nice was coming across (to other HMs) as fake. In fact, that particular misunderstanding was the start of the rot.

Sam has more chance of being top dog than either of them two. . 

 

They both try to talk themselves up. .usually people who know they aren't all that do that the most . .those that are all that don't need to talk themselves up at all

Very true, Olly.

That was later. . he was all for saving Callum from the the vote that week but they [him and Gina]  saved someone else instead, I forget who. .

 

I think he went for Callum when he realised Callum wasn't happy that he was going after Charlie and saw an in to get under his skin..

Oh yeah and that was why Dan got the boot and the get Dan out shouts. .

 

He masterminded everything in there and sulked if it didn't go his way.. don't forget he's the one said why would you put me up for eviction to Callum the week he was up.. I'm nice why would any of you put me up. .nasty little man..

 

am playing catch up in this thread and working my way down the psots hence the delays