Compared to her I am....

i'd think her behaviour in BB was probably tame compared to what the pair of them were probably like in the privacy of their own home.. why is it so hard to believe that they discussed the split a while ago but decided to wait until after Xmas for the kids sake, and also after BB as it was so close to Xmas, to make it public? 

 

 

 

Some things in life that I have done,people might not agree with and I'm sure that goes for most people. Maybe being in an unhappy marriage for a long time and lived the 'lie' for families sake, I have some sympathy for her, if that was the case...and it is an if, because not one of us knows her situation, however much we speculate. 

Well I have read and watched what has been printed/said/disclosed by Denise, and I have to agree with the general consensus  that she is what most people say she is on this thread, a drunken, self absorbed, attention seeking bint  . I Personally find her  dispicable.

But, one thing that puzzles me is, why the flipping heck does this woman compulsively flash when she wears such 'orrible undergarments.  Her knick knacks and bras are really dreadful,they all look like they were put in the wash with Tims work clothes from Auf Wiedersein Pet. Surely someone should tell her that if she is going to flash all and sundrie to the general public she would shop at La Senza or Agent Provocateur  or summat.

So much said about softening the blow to her children the above ^^^ say's it all.. doubt she was thinking about her children then.. it is all about her ..her children comes second IMO ..  she shows no dignity ..if not for herself ..her children,and agree nobody is perfect, she put herself in the BB house knowing the chances she would be talked about on forums media etc regarding her behaviour in the house and now post BB..I am sure she can take what is thrown at her because she is thick skinned.. if not as the case may be .. which I doubt.. she would let things die down.. keep out the public eye for a while until she sorts her life out.

I think we've all done things Dame but when we enter a long term relationship,get married,become parents our boundaries move,some things are/aren't acceptable,can any of us honestly say how we conduct ourselves now is the same as how we did when we were single and or childless,I know for sure I can't.Call it social conditioning,call it whatever but as a spouse /parent our values commitment  priorities and behaviour do have a ripple affect ,how can we lead by example as parents if we were to still act footloose and fancy free.Many do stay in a dysfunctional relationship for a myriad of reasons,more often than not for the sake of others,that I can understand,her however ,a lot of the emphasis seems to be placed on the sex,that I can't fathom.

I've been out to 3 different places, tidied up before i went (put washing in etc) made lunch when i came back in and its still the same in here! Kinda funny if you think about it.

I'd quite a productive 2 hours between posts,must remember to set timer next time.

My point is no ones really gonna change theirs or anyone elses mind on how they feel about Denise no matter how many pages this thread gets to.

I didn't think this thread was about changing peoples minds Jen tbh. .I detest the woman but somehow something about this thread made me feel sad the way the women seem to be so vicious about her to the point it comes across, because of the strength of the vitriol, that Denise must be a child murder or summat not the  chavvy drunken old slapper that she is and people seem to doubt she has any sense of humanity at all and absolutely everything she does is either a lie or has a nefarious underbelly to it ..

 

 I think we have all slagged off various celebs in the past tis just something about this thread and what people are saying that left a nasty taste in my mouth as it continued .. . .dunno why tho  :shrugs:

 

 The bit I highlighted I can certainly understand Lee, some women feel the need to do that after a unhappy relationship, and there are loads of obvious reasons why some women do this. I didn't I might add  but I really do understand why some women feel the need to to do something reckless or fun depending on which way you look at it   I'm not condoning her behaviour, but I'm certainly condemning her....   a lot of what's been printed is hearsay and as far as I can gather she's been in this relationship 8 months and we certainly don't know how long her and Tim have lived separate lives. 

Not really.. she she has kept herself in the news post BB .. and it  is a BB forum, we all have different opinions and should be able to express them when and if we want to .. is there a time limit 

i couldn't agree more. I've  done my fair share of slagging off I put my hands up to that. This is really quite horrible though IMO.

 

Maybe there's something wrong with me but I can't see anything she's done is that bad. She is who she is - the boys have grown up with their mother flashing her bra as a party piece. She was married for 24 years and has provided (from what I can see) a loving home. The marriage has broken down and she's seeing someone else - meanwhile she and Tim have remained friends and are co parenting her youngest son (the oldest is 22) - All this give her enough rope blah, blah, blah - lets not forget she did win CBB - she was the most popular 'celeb' in the house.

 

Obviously we're not gonna change each others opinions but ..........some of the comments in here are beyond disgusting IMO.

 

And that really is my final word.

Totally agree Marge..

I agree Olly.... in fact that is what made me *spring to her defense* when BB was on, even though I didn't like her  The sheer loathing that was being expressed seemed totally out of proportion to what was actually going on She is a silly woman, who needs a bit of a reality check, but don't we all sometimes!  Oh and I've been out to town too 

No, no time limit. I should have included my post after that one in same post Marg. My point was No ones going to change how they feel about her are they?

 

I 'm about to go to the post office and earlier went for refreshments from what they laughingly call the patisserie!

I guess you didn't buy us any cakes though, did you?

One can't help but think that if they had stayed up here then they would have been ok. Sometimes people have to move because of work and they ended up in the vice den of East Cheshire with all it's temptations, drink, drugs, and free love.

The operative word being after Dame,not repeatedly during or for the sake of recreational sex.,buy a rabbit .....Divorce for many ,depending on the circumstances surrounding it, can result in folks self esteem taking a severe battering,usually the injured party.and they do feel the need to have a walk on the wild side,be *wanted* again have their confidence rebuilt,,that is absolutely understandable.Her latest fling is supposed to have began last April yes,which again makes this article in November fall into the confusing category.http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs...ife-115875-23543423/

I can't see this affecting her work life, she has had affairs before and at the end of the day it's nothing to do with the public, if they don't like her then don't watch any shows she's in, as for personal life that's between her and Tim imo 

 As someone who lives in Cheshire East I have to say that the drugs and free love seem to have passed me by... sadly....  *decides not to mention the drink*

*decides not to bother visiting Baz after all*

There is a difference slating the HMS that is what happens on BB forums ..but to say  other FMS posts leaves a bad taste because they dont like Denise is wrong,our opinions are about the HMS not about the forum members posts surely

i agree  and we haven't even got onto *that tart* Tricia Penrose from heartbeat that's also standing there in her underwear 

Aimee it probably wont affect her work life I was basically saying above ^^ some posts were saying it was not a hanging offence or words to that affect ..cant be bothered to look back..I was basically saying she chops and changes what she says to suit her cicumstances hence ..give her enough rope

Yet it's acceptable to call the twins "prostitutes" on the forum...

 

Is that cos we have the sex, drugs and rock and roll Kaffy , or because we don't

Jen  I find it very hard to change my opinion of her all I see.. is ..she believes she does no wrong and it is everyone elses fault..

what do you think Baz.... 

ok maybe I need to clarify why I said the thread left a bad taste in my mouth.. twas because for nearly 3 pages there were nothing but posts against Denise accusing her of all sorts which may be true or not and only one FM post 'defending' her so it seemed like this thread was all about a load of mean girls getting nastier and nastier about one, yes not so nice, person and somehow delighting in the salaciousness of it all.. that is what I meant by a bad taste... .usually threads have posts from both sides so are a bit more balanced.

 

.now I know it looks like I am slagging off everybody that had a mean word to say about Denise, including myself cos I called her a drunk chavvy old slapper with no morals at all, I am not, I was just making an observation about how the thread read for the first 3 pages. .it was like a gleefest of women rubbing their hands together in joy having a good ol bitch about somebody. .deserved or not. .and not based on any real knowledge of the situation either just supposition or info from articles that are just a journalists view of an interview they did with somebody so that is flawed too..  I was like blimey how many pages can they keep bitching about the woman with no one else bar one in the thread posing an opposite view. .just went a tad too far for me cos of the lack of balance. . tis hard to fully explain as the words won't come out of my head properly.. 

 

anyway that was all I meant. .sorry if I offend anybody but tis how it read to me  ..am sure that is not how is was meant to be but it does come across like that a bit.. .tho nowhere near as bad as DS where countless threads are devoted to slagging people off day in day out...  .

I really wouldn' like to say

TBF Olly,I spent and devoted too much of my time in RL helping females to in anyway shape or form take delight in being *Nasty* about one but last time I checked I was entitled to an opinion..This thread had ran for 3 pages yes,no-one stopped or discouraged anyone from posting in it,not at any stage,Soozy did several times as she was quite rightly entitled too,yesterday as well as today..I can't defend Denise Welch,,I can't and won't defend the indefensible at any stage for anyone.her or any ones addictions like I have said are a different matter,that is not a choice,her infidelity is not.

And that is  basically what I meant too... it was the lack of any balance on the forum that made me/makes me want to defend her (or act as an apologist if you like). Surely the woman can't be all bad.....  

Olly  There is a lot of pages about Denise in this thread the reason being she has been in the media a lot since coming out of the house and on telly giving her version of what is happening etc, if she had sorted her private life out quietly I doubt this thread would still be on this page it would have been long gone,and agree about  DS in comparison I would say this thread is pretty  tame

To be fair to her, it seems that she and Tim had sorted their private life out quietly, Marge.

I think they should be congratulated on staying friends and wanting to both be there for the kids, despite obvious difficulties in their marriage.

Lee I am not defending the woman at all I am entitled as a FM to say how the thread read to me when I first opened it. .as I said I am sorry if it comes across as having a pop it wasn't meant to it was just an observation cos of how it came across to me  . .usually I read threads and rarely post but something about this one and it's lack of any balance  prompted me too because of the original tone and how it seemed to be going and the fact no one knows the truth at all so it is all suppositions. .

 

again not defending Denise's behaviour at all, it goes against all I believe in if the rumours of affairs are true never mind her needy behaviour in the house . . as I said didn't mean to offend just  point out that it seemed to be getting salaciously nastier and all based around one TV statement she made and her 'reasons' behind it...   .anyway I'll shurrup now and as I said I  was not intending to offend just make people stop and think a bit perhaps as no one knows the true facts at all .. 

exactly and by making the announcement live  rather than a private interview she  pre-empts any Journo's take on the situation and twisting of facts she has done exactly that and put all speculation to rest hopefully.. as she is in the public eye it was going to come out anyway so better we hear it from the horses mouth..  but the disbelief in what she said is what prompted the pages of stuff against her all with no real foundation.. that is why I had the bad taste..

 

but as I said I'll shurrup now I've waffled enough and offended enough I suppose too.. 

That's if you believe her....