Maybe Baz?

Yes, I would agree to a degree Suzy, there are some v v bright ones who seem to learn v quickly, and some who aren't/don't!

I obviously rub you up the wrong way. ref: soozy

Yeah, you might be right.

Nah, she's true blue now

Totally agree with all of this post!

You're right Marge.

I believe we will end up with David Cameron run government of some form or another once the negotiations are complete ....but until then there's nothing else but for GB to stay put.

Those waiting for their moment of Schadenfreude will get it eventually. They just need a little patience. 

Yes, I would agree to a degree Suzy, there are some v v bright ones who seem to learn v quickly, and some who aren't/don't!..... ref: sooops


True. But once you learn the model about how (for example) meetings should be done and managed you should be able to replicate that in any meeting, with a nod to the legal requirements. The formular is, apologies for abscense, agreeing previous minutes, matters arising, any other business etc. works at AGMs, Cabinet Meetings, School Governing Body meetings etc etc. That is what the Civil Servants should be most concerned with.

I wanted labour to stay in, didnt think they had a chance in my area so tried to go on a tactical route

I voted lib dem to keep tory out... failed miserably though as the conservatives won in ribble valley and labour actually came second. I didnt think labour would stand a chance and thought lib dems may be in with a chance. How wrong I was though...

That's awful. I tactically voted once years ago (1983) I think. It backfired ..........never done it since. When all is said and done I think you should vote with your heart - go with your instincts.

Conservatives seem to dominate this area, the last time Labour won here was 1945.

From 1992 onwards the conservative party have had near and sometimes over 50% of the vote.

at Soozy! ( still can't do the quotes thang properly on here, but that made me laugh!)

I voted Labour but thought perhaps I should have voted lib dem to keep the Tories out but they got in anyway.. worse luck

But they do also need to be able to advise the politicians on policy too Suzy, hence a need to have some idea of what they are talking about!

ahhhhh!   Perceptive little duck! xxx

I'm beginning to think that the best possible outcome for me would be a Conservative Lib Dem alliance, 6 months or so of folk realising what a much bigger mess of the economy Dave and his chums can make, then a further election in Nov with no tactical voting and Labour get back in 

That'll hopefully be around about November for me  

I'm thinking exactly the same. God forbid me to have an opinion on the matter but that is mine.

But they do also need to be able to advise the politicians on policy too Suzy, hence a need to have some idea of what they are talking about....ref: sooops


In theory, no. They have to be relatively well versed in all areas of governance. When specialist expertise is required they out-source to people (like me, as it happens). I have been called in for economic matters, (wont get any more specific, as my specialism may reveal who I am )......The late Dr. David Kelly had a similar role in his field, poor bloke

Meaty, I think that you were far from alone in thinking Lib Dems would do a lot better than they did, which is why I'm v interested in the amount of 'tactical' voting that goes on and if the % vote would be v v different if we had pr

We are thinking the same the same way Super

God forbid me to have an opinion on the matter but that is mine.....ref: soozy


There you go again, petulant!

Visited my Dads early this morning and he said pretty much the same, few months down Conservative and Lib Dems will fall out and make a mess of it. I don't Labour are as bad as they are made out to be... the media (especially The Sun paper) seem to make out that its really that bad. Il be having my whinge about tories and their prawn sandwiches when they piss it all up just like everyone else did with Labour.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/ho...atting-in-No-10.html

If that's how you see it that's your perogative. Maybe I am a bit petulant ...........I'm simply another poster on here - that's it really.

And me, hence my secondment Seems they do a lot more of that now than they used to tbf. When I worked with them it was the first time to my knowledge, that that particular department had brought in advisers from 'outside' and they do rather a lot of it now.

Yes, sooops. I believe it's a good thing that they bring in outsiders who have specific knowledge and a passion for their field. Stops the 'Sir Humphries' in Whitehall getting all jaded, cynical and complacent

Meaty, far be it from me to be swaying you towards the Tories, but did you see my post to you saying that the Conservative policy  pledges further support for Children's Centres

David Cameron (left) meets with Nick Clegg to discuss an alliance...

We need Yoda!

OMG

The Americans got him

Oh Buga, I don't know that much about the finer aspects of the economy etc. but I know absolutely zilch about Star Wars,  indeed, is that ^^^^ Star Wars, I'm just guessing!

And to improve childrens centres they are going to get rid of the current workers and replace with health visitors.

Ah, I didn't realise that...how does that make any sense, I thought that the whole idea behind them was that they were multi-disciplinary, bringing all services under one roof providing for 'seamless integrated services and information'

Yes Soops.... that is indeed Star Wars!

The bloke in black is Darth Vader.... the other one is Luke Skywalker.

Darth Vader is about to tell Luke he is is father & then chop his hand off!

Blimey.... the picture is even more appropriate than I first realised!

Currently my brother is an outreach worker... and others who are in the same position as him work for my Dad, Conservatives plan to bring in health visitors instead and to fund it they will cut the number of outreach workers or even get rid of them all.

Blahhhhhhhhhhhahahahaha......May the Force be with you Clegg

Just been reading this common ground No wonder it's such a close run thing!

But surely that would increase spending, aren't HVs paid significantly more than outreach workers?