I agree Spider..

And she's a grown up.  Putting responsibility on someone else for her delusions is a bit lame, no?

He is feeding her delusions.........

The comment from A.Stone about him only arguing with women has really annoyed him!  Truth hurts eh?

they have 'upped' their game since the papers were mentioned.... he's put his arm round her and she has been stroking his chest   the tweenies will be having orgasms on their behalf

I was completely unsuprised that little Gem didn't make it onto highlights.  John James really is that precious.

Agree ,JJ said in his profile he will do what ever it takes to win .
JJ being attracted to Josie,next we will be told Corin hates fake tan.

The papers were a wind up and they know that cos Dave told them so....

That's as may be but if you go on BB and attempt to make any kind of romantic connection you're playing with fire.  She's adult enough to know that.  That she seems too thick to do so is tough titties really. 

Yea but Crab eyes still thinks maybe there was some truth in it....eyes dart about for good measure.

Priceless, wasn't it?  

The old single brain cell was working overtime.

As Dave started to speak of newspapers and romance with Josie, JJ was LOVING it! Lapping it up. This is the same creep that said the public could eff off!

JJ and Josie deserve each other. There will never be a romance there its all for the cameras. Gameplay yes, but boring now.

Is that the one she grabbed when she was looking for her comforter, and he got up and went to the diary room to tell BB  he had no feelings for her whatever!    

 ^^^   Think u're too close to the truth there - he will have a HEART ATTACK if a pretty girl walks in tomorrow   He is a WIERD specimen - most guys his age would be popping into the bathroom every night.... but NOT JJ

Actually, the more I look at this, the more disgracefully patronising - to her - it is.  If her head really is "all over the place" then, despite JJ being a contributing twat by all accounts, it really is her responsibility.  No one is forcing her to get involved, or try to get involved, with him.

Really, if you put yourself in that situation on national television you have to take on the possibility that you are being scammed.  It's your choice.  Your adult choice.

It's like being back in the dark ages where women were the 'weaker' sex and she is defenceless victim to the dastardly wiles of John.  Pretty condescending IMO.

I absolutely despise JJ but in this instance it is Josie who has started all this teenage romantic rubbish.

But JJ was not running with it ,as everything in the house is fake.Now the nespapers have been mentioned it's game on!

Noirin did something very similar with Marcus last year so being a weaker sex doesn't really come into it.  I don't understand why you've brought that into it.  It can work both ways.

Josie's said numerous times that she doesn't think "a girl like her" would stand a chance with "a guy like him", she has these reality check moments, but then John James gives out the wrong messages time and again.

After days of Josie telling him she has feelings for him, and then last night she completely spells it out so John James is in no doubt at all how she feels.  His immediate reaction is to make a 4am visit to the Diary Room to tell them what was said, and to explain to them (not Josie) that he sees Josie as a sister and he's not physically attracted to her.  Then as we saw just now on highlights, some hours later we see them carressing eachother's hair intimately in the snug, and then later in bed, snuggling (remember he got 10 out of 10 for it...).  If that is not leading someone on, then I don't know what is.

Caught the tail end of HLs tonight and they looked pretty damn intimate to me, and it didn't look like one way traffic...

I didn't say, nor did I imply, that JJ was not an arse or was not leading her on.  What I did do was highlight what, in my opinion, is Josie's responsibility and also what I saw as a condescending attitude to her.

Pretty simple really. 

Yes.

It looked a far cry from his conversation with Big Brother in the Diary Room just hours earlier.

He's a user but as much as I hate the horrible little twonk he said HE is not attracted to her which is fair enough. He's using her for airtime but he hasn't insulted her in the DR.

It looked positively post-coital. If I still smoked, I would have lit up a cohiba.

Yes I understand your take on it.  What you're saying is Josie's taken the adult decision to put herself in a position where she could potentially end up looking foolish.

However I could be inclined to have less sympathy for Josie if John James didn't maintain the pretense that Josie's feelings are being reciprocated.  I guess I don't understand his motives.

Not to hurt someone that he deeply cares about as a friend and a friend only..

Oh Stonks, so you know your 'friend' fancies you, so in an attempt to let them down gently you grope them under a duvet?? Are you sure?

I'd be surprised if he does.  He's thick as mince an' all.  In an autonomous, adult fashion I mean.   

Sorry but I don't buy JJ's "she's just a friend" etc OK he may see her as that,but if you knew that they really fancied you,and I don't for one minute think that JJ hasn't picked up on this etc.Then I would start to watch my behaviour.I wouldn't shower together,as he did with her.I wouldn't share a bed etc.Yes a hug and odd cuddle is ok,but no spooning etc.He is  using her,as he thinks she's still the fav.Now I don't care for Josie that much either,but JJ was the one that stated in his VT etc "I'd do anything to win this show".....

she has a choice... she doesn't have to make an idiot of herself in public

I don't understand either of their motives. Its their choice though how they handle it.

Fair enough....he's been a player from the start....it's all smoke and mirrors with him...he'll play the game to his own advantage...and it's working

Now thats totally down to Josie..she asks him for snuggles and says he's the best at snuggles, she loves snuggles..she's the groper and the user....

Fair enough, indeed KT. But he needs to zip it when he's ranting at others not keeping it real. I don't mind someone taking on a persona or alter-ego to get ahead, but I do mind when that person is barking about others being fake.

I get ya now! Shameless harridan trollop that she is, she's leading JJ the Holy Innocent astray. Burn the Witch!