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Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

Being fair, Matt can only do the macho racing around the ice stuff...he has no emotional involvement in anything slow,so he ain't perfect

That's exactly how I see it - he's a good dancing ice hockey player - that's it.

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

Being fair, Matt can only do the macho racing around the ice stuff...he has no emotional involvement in anything slow,so he ain't perfect

I never said he was perfect, but he's a better skater than Beth.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

Being fair, Matt can only do the macho racing around the ice stuff...he has no emotional involvement in anything slow,so he ain't perfect

That's exactly how I see it - he's a good dancing ice hockey player - that's it.

  I felt the same about Chris Fountain.

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

Being fair, Matt can only do the macho racing around the ice stuff...he has no emotional involvement in anything slow,so he ain't perfect

I never said he was perfect, but he's a better skater than Beth.

He's not as good as an all rounder

Kaytee
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

 Are you really that naive Video

Are you saying Robin doesn't know his skating?   are you really saying that for some unknown reason the judges want Matt to win for anyother reason than he's the better skater?

Do you really think that if Beth, or  any of the other skaters had slipped during the skate off they would still be there I think the fact they didn't boot him out at that stage says it all... IMO...

Pammy shouldn't have gone either for her slip, the better skaters should come through, with or without slips, you cant punish skaters for one minor slip.

Videostar
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

Being fair, Matt can only do the macho racing around the ice stuff...he has no emotional involvement in anything slow,so he ain't perfect

That's exactly how I see it - he's a good dancing ice hockey player - that's it.

Spot on

Baz
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

Being fair, Matt can only do the macho racing around the ice stuff...he has no emotional involvement in anything slow,so he ain't perfect

I never said he was perfect, but he's a better skater than Beth.

He's not as good as an all rounder

But his performances still get the crowds excited in the audience and he gets better scores from those who know,  Beth hasn't really set the world alight with her performances, has she.?

Videostar

Well Vids, when they put Pamela Anderson out because of a mistake in her routine, but let Matt through when he made a mistake under the same circumstances, they blew their credability into smithereens.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

 Are you really that naive Video

Are you saying Robin doesn't know his skating?   are you really saying that for some unknown reason the judges want Matt to win for anyother reason than he's the better skater?

Do you really think that if Beth, or  any of the other skaters had slipped during the skate off they would still be there I think the fact they didn't boot him out at that stage says it all... IMO...

Pammy shouldn't have gone either for her slip, the better skaters should come through, with or without slips, you cant punish skaters for one minor slip.

i actually don't think she should have either, but you can't have one rule for one and one for another imo

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

 Are you really that naive Video

Are you saying Robin doesn't know his skating?   are you really saying that for some unknown reason the judges want Matt to win for anyother reason than he's the better skater?

Do you really think that if Beth, or  any of the other skaters had slipped during the skate off they would still be there I think the fact they didn't boot him out at that stage says it all... IMO...

Pammy shouldn't have gone either for her slip, the better skaters should come through, with or without slips, you cant punish skaters for one minor slip.

But they set those rules Video....it's all about how they perform in the skate off.... and then made an exception for Matt... it's wrong....

Baz
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

Being fair, Matt can only do the macho racing around the ice stuff...he has no emotional involvement in anything slow,so he ain't perfect

I never said he was perfect, but he's a better skater than Beth.

He's not as good as an all rounder

But his performances still get the crowds excited in the audience and he gets better scores from those who know,  Beth hasn't really set the world alight with her performances, has she.?

Just as he hasn't set the world alight with his technical ability

Kaytee
Originally Posted by Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing:

Well Vids, when they put Pamela Anderson out because of a mistake in her routine, but let Matt through when he made a mistake under the same circumstances, they blew their credability into smithereens.

That's how I feel too EFFT... and Robin's remark just now, about Bolero, simply confirms it for me...

Baz
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by liverbird:

Talking of Chris Fountain - anyone remember who he beat to win?

He didn't win in the end - Suzanne shaw beat him.

Oh I think I was underwhelmed by that!

liverbird
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by liverbird:

Talking of Chris Fountain - anyone remember who he beat to win?

Suzanne Shaw won that series didn't she?

yep - so there's always hope! 

Kaffs
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:
Originally Posted by Kaytee:
Originally Posted by Videostar:

Seriously guys, 40 out of 40 points, the judges know their stuff, they aren't giving Matt 10s because they favour him over Beth, it's because he's clearly better than her, not my opinion but the opinion of the people who are experts...the judges.

 

If Beth does win it would be a joke.

Being fair, Matt can only do the macho racing around the ice stuff...he has no emotional involvement in anything slow,so he ain't perfect

I never said he was perfect, but he's a better skater than Beth.

He's not as good as an all rounder

But his performances still get the crowds excited in the audience and he gets better scores from those who know,  Beth hasn't really set the world alight with her performances, has she.?

The audience scream and cheer at anything and everything....means nothing IMO.

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by liverbird:

Talking of Chris Fountain - anyone remember who he beat to win?

Suzanne Shaw won that series didn't she?

yep - so there's always hope! 

Funny - in the tour I saw a couple of years ago Chris was in it but not Suzanne probably why I thought he won!

liverbird
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
 

Do you really think that if Beth, or  any of the other skaters had slipped during the skate off they would still be there I think the fact they didn't boot him out at that stage says it all... IMO...

Pammy shouldn't have gone either for her slip, the better skaters should come through, with or without slips, you cant punish skaters for one minor slip.

i actually don't think she should have either, but you can't have one rule for one and one for another imo

I thought his performance was better than Shayne's despite his slip, so I don't have a problem with that. We've got the right two finalists on ability imo, just happen to much prefer watching Beth and her gracefulness than Matt and his stompiness. I'm confident her Bolero will be better

FM
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
 

Do you really think that if Beth, or  any of the other skaters had slipped during the skate off they would still be there I think the fact they didn't boot him out at that stage says it all... IMO...

Pammy shouldn't have gone either for her slip, the better skaters should come through, with or without slips, you cant punish skaters for one minor slip.

i actually don't think she should have either, but you can't have one rule for one and one for another imo

I thought his performance was better than Shayne's despite his slip, so I don't have a problem with that. We've got the right two finalists on ability imo, just happen to much prefer watching Beth and her gracefulness than Matt and his stompiness. I'm confident her Bolero will be better

What have I told you before about introducing logic into my arguments?  

Kaffs
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
Originally Posted by Supes:
Originally Posted by KaffyBaffy:
 

Do you really think that if Beth, or  any of the other skaters had slipped during the skate off they would still be there I think the fact they didn't boot him out at that stage says it all... IMO...

Pammy shouldn't have gone either for her slip, the better skaters should come through, with or without slips, you cant punish skaters for one minor slip.

i actually don't think she should have either, but you can't have one rule for one and one for another imo

I thought his performance was better than Shayne's despite his slip, so I don't have a problem with that. We've got the right two finalists on ability imo, just happen to much prefer watching Beth and her gracefulness than Matt and his stompiness. I'm confident her Bolero will be better

What have I told you before about introducing logic into my arguments?  

Baz
Originally Posted by Supes:

Bites fingernails, Matt now favourite


Matt Lapinskas
4/6   4/6 4/6 4/78/11 11/108/118/13      5/6   
Beth Tweddle11/10   6/5 11/10 11/81 4/611/105/4      17/16 

I am pretty sure that he will win Super....and the straight 10's won't have hurt either

Baz
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Supes:

Bites fingernails, Matt now favourite


Matt Lapinskas
4/6   4/6 4/6 4/78/11 11/108/118/13      5/6   
Beth Tweddle11/10   6/5 11/10 11/81 4/611/105/4      17/16 

I am pretty sure that he will win Super....and the straight 10's won't have hurt either

Baz .............pick up your phone - I have and that's a rarity.

Soozy Woo

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