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Dateline Untangles Casey Case Queries

NBC News Takes Look At Caylee Death

 

POSTED: 9:48 am EDT June 17, 2011
UPDATED: 6:45 pm EDT June 17, 2011

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ORLANDO, Fla. -- Friday at 9 p.m., Dateline NBC promises an in-depth look into the trial that’s captivated Central Florida, and the nation, for the last three years.

 

“One of the most perplexing aspects of this case is that the medical examiner, while saying it was a homicide, couldn’t say how this child died,” Savannah Guthrie, NBC News chief legal correspondent, told reporter Dennis Murphy.

 


 

In the report, NBC said Murphy will detail explosive new evidence in the trial and explain the family dynamics at the heart of the case.

 

Murphy spoke with experts close to the case and journalists covering Anthony’s murder trial.

 

“We don’t really know what happened to Caylee Anthony,” Gurthrie said. “Prosecutors have their theory, the defense has its theory. But nothing has truly been proven yet.”

 

Casey Anthony is on trial for murder in the 2008 death of her daughter, Caylee.

 

Dateline NBC airs at 9 p.m. on WESH 2.



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Ev (Peachy)

Conflict Returns To Anthonys' Neighborhood

Memorial For Caylee Anthony Attracts Attention

 

POSTED: 11:59 pm EDT June 17, 2011
UPDATED: 2:37 am EDT June 18, 2011

 
The Anthony family home in East Orange County.
The drama has returned to the Anthonys' East Orange County neighborhood.

 

Neighbors endured the arguments and confrontations outside the Anthony home back in 2008, but now with renewed interest from the trial, a new memorial for Caylee Anthony is popping up and attracting attention.

  

A makeshift memorial site for Caylee had been set up right off the road in 2008. Now, to remember the young girl, case followers are actually walking some 20 feet back into the woods where investigators found her bones.

 

"I cried and I cried. It's so sad, so I came," said Margaret Lubrano.

 

Lubrano said she and her sister had been moved by Caylee's murder. They came from Louisiana to see the trial and trek through the woods to see the spot where investigators found Caylee's remains. It's where a new memorial is growing off Suburban Drive in East Orange County.

 

"It's just a way to remember her. This time three years ago, something horrible happened," said memorial visitor Shannon Mickey, of Orlando.

 

Not a day has gone by in the last three years that neighbors in the Anthonys' Chickasaw Park subdivision have been able to forget. Neighbors said cars constantly by drive the house like a tourist attraction.


 

"There's nothing to see. It's like an empty house," said one neighbor.

 

Residents said it's a flashback to 2008, when they lived with the sight of crime scene tape and techs for weeks, protesters yelling at the family, nightly vigils, a massive makeshift memorial and gawkers.

 

George Anthony isn't happy to see the return of a familiar face in the neighborhood this week. He called 911 when a bounty hunter, Leonard Padilla, showed up outside his house.

 

"The gentleman has been served with a notice not to harass us in any way, shape or form. He is out in front of our house," George Anthony told a dispatcher.

 

The trial has only reignited friction between neighbors and visitors to the memorial.

 

"Someone's been coming by and taking everything," said Lubrano.

 

"No amount of teddy bears is going to bring her back," said a neighbor.

 

The homeowners association told WESH 2 News that deputies are patrolling the neighborhood hourly to keep the peace.



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Ev (Peachy)

After the ass-whoopin ended, Baez got back up to try to rehabilitate his expert witness.  Here is just one verbatim example of the pointed questions Baez asked at this late stage in the day.

Do you feel based on the stain uhhh of the opinion you gave on the stain the stain uhhh even though you didn’t put it in your report do you still do you still feel render that opinion to the jury?

And that about sums up how well Baez did in rehab.

Another jolly-roger day will begin this morning at 9:00 am ET.  Be there or be square.

Soozy Woo

 

I like the way Perry sorts them out  Quote as well from yesterday from Perry = "Mr Baez this is not my first rodeo"

 

 

 

The Latest summary from yesterday. 

Perry scolds Baez and Dr Spitz talks Autopsies. 

 

 

 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Shortly after the Casey Anthony murder trial resumed Saturday morning, Judge Belvin Perry warned Jose Baez and attorneys on both sides that he was displeased with what he believed to be “game playing.

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Judge Perry: 'This Is Not A Game

 

William Rodriguez, who is a co-founder of the so-called “Body Farm,” took the stand first. The state objected to his testimony and asked that they be allowed to voir dire Rodriguez over opinions he gave that they claimed violated a court order.

 

After the jury was asked to leave the courtroom, Rodriguez told the judge that he planned to testify that no conclusions can be drawn from the duct tape found near Caylee Anthony’s remains because the bones had been scattered by animals.

 

Perry questioned Baez about an order that prohibits witnesses from testifying about evidence or opinions that were not published for the court.

 


 

"What you're basically saying, sir is that you can pick and choose which court orders you comply with," Perry said.

 

Perry said he believed the defense’s omissions were not inadvertent.

 

“Both sides have engaged in what I call ‘game playing.’ This is not a game,” Perry said. “I did not want to be in the position that I am in now.”

 

 

 

"Mr. Baez, this is not my first rodeo."

 

 

 

 

Perry said that withholding Rodriguez’s opinions from the court and the prosecution would be an offense punishable by contempt.

 

“I would request that the court also look at the answer filed by the defense where I clearly laid out that Dr. Rodriguez would be called to refute any issues raised by the prosecution,” Baez said. “This does fall under that category.”

 

“Mr. Baez, this is not my first rodeo,” Perry said.

 

After a ten-minute recess, defense attorney Cheney Mason told Perry that Rodriguez would return to the stand Monday.

 

Well-Known Pathologist Testifies About Autopsy

 

Dr. Werner Spitz, an award-winning forensic pathologist who was consulted on the Martin Luther King Jr. and John F. Kennedy assassinations testified about the official autopsy on Caylee, as well as the one he performed.

 

 
 

 

Pathologist: 'Failure Of The Autopsy'

 

Spitz challenged the autopsy results found by Orange County’s medical examiner, Dr. Jan Garavaglia.

 

Dr. G testified that Caylee’s death was the result of a homicide, but that the manner of her death was undetermined.

 

Defense attorneys claimed during opening statements that Caylee’s death was not a murder, but an accidental drowning. They also claimed that Casey’s father, George Anthony, was aware of the drowning.

 

George Anthony rejected the defense’s claim and testified that Caylee did not drown in the family’s pool.

 

Spitz refuted the state’s claim that duct tape covered part of Caylee’s face at the time of her death. He said he believes that the tape was placed on the 2-year-old after her body decomposed, to keep her jawbone attached to her skull.

 

Spitz said that, in his opinion, Caylee’s skull should have been opened for examination during the initial autopsy. He criticized Garavaglia for what he called a “shoddy” autopsy.

 

“To not open the head, I think, is a failure. It is a failure of the autopsy,” Spitz said.

 

Spitz also said he asked to be present during Garavaglia’s initial autopsy, but was denied. He performed a separate autopsy at a funeral home.

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If you want to watch the live video from yesterday in full the video links are here starting with part one. > http://www.wftv.com/video/28263937/index.html

Ev (Peachy)

Sorry if it's been posted before but - it's worth a read IMO as a general summing up of week 4

 

Caylee Anthony case: Review of trial week 4

This past week saw the State rest on the presentation of their case.  At that time it appeared the defense believed the witness stand now belonged to them.  The week ended with Judge Perry setting them straight that it did not belong to them and he was still fully in charge of how it would be used.  While the beginning of the week was rather lackluster, the end of the week was full of piss and vinegar…maybe more so from Judge Perry than anyone.

On Monday the State called Stephen Shaw, a hair and fiber examiner with the FBI, to have him present the findings of a study he did on hairs removed from living individuals and then placed in varying environments.  The purpose of the study was to see if any of these hairs would develop dark banding, consistent with post-mortem banding, due to environmental effects.  None of them did.

Elizabeth Fontaine, who is a physical scientist forensic examiner in the latent print unit of the FBI labs took the stand next.  She is the one that saw a “heart-shaped impression” on Q63, one of the pieces of duct tape found on Caylee’s skull.

Tuesday began with Catherine Theison, the Chief of the quality assurance and control unit of the FBI.  She is the person who conducted the mtDNA on the “death hair” from the trunk, a hair from the hair mat found with Caylee’s skull, and on a hair taken from Casey.

After Ms. Theison came Alina Burroughs who is a crime scene investigator for OCSO who assisted in the search and seizure of evidence at Suburban Drive and at the Anthony home in December 2008.  Linda-Drane Burdick went through a series of photographs taken during the searches at the Anthony home showing numerous heart-shaped stickers, sheets of heart-shaped stickers, etc. found in Casey’s room.  Later the 3D gel heart-shaped sticker found on Suburban Drive would be entered into evidence.  They jury showed great interest in this and asked to see it themselves.

Cindy Anthony was called back to the stand and asked about items that came up missing at the Anthony home between June and December 2008.  These items included the Winnie the Pooh blanket (found with the Caylee’s remains), and Caylee’s teddy bear.  Cindy stated the blanket came up missing sometime after the end of May, which is the last time she says she remembers seeing it.  The Teddy Bear appears to have been taken by Casey after Cindy let her know she had started sleeping with it in the first week of July because she missed Caylee.

Linda Drane-Burdick then asked Cindy about the hair length and any color processing done on members of the family including Casey, Caylee, Cindy, Lee and Shirley Plesea.  This was to get their hair characteristics on record because and eliminate them as potential sources for the death hair.  This was done because these individuals would also match the mtDNA results for the death hair.

Cindy was then asked about duct tape and Whitney laundry bags.  While Cindy’s testimony about duct tape was “questionable” in how honest she was being, her testimony on the laundry bags was clearly honest.  She admitted she owned two Whitney Designs laundry bags, a rectangular one which was still in the house when the December 2008 searches were conducted, and a cylindrical one, which was found with Caylee’s remains.  During this testimony Cindy dropped a bit of a mini bombshell.  At least a grenade, if you will.

I do not remember previously learning that the cylindrical laundry bag was last kept on the top shelf above the washer and dryer in the garage.  Not only that, but Cindy revealed it was stored inside a black plastic trash bag to keep it from getting dusty.  This is a major point considering Caylee’s remains were found (partially) within the laundry bag which was within 2 black plastic trash bags.

After Cindy left the stand the State presented the Bella Vita tattoo.  They brought Bobby Williams, the employee from Cast Iron Tattoos who gave Casey the tattoo to the stand.  Mr. Williams testified to getting a phone call a few days before the 2nd of July in which Casey made an appointment to get the tattoo.  He then told of her coming in and getting it and acting normal.  Then he told of her stopping back by on July 15th to make another appointment for the 19th for her “and a friend” to get tattoos.  She told him she would bring Caylee with her on the 19th.

The State rested on Wednesday morning and the podium was turned over to Cheney Mason who argued for the court to acquit Casey and drop the whole deal.  Judge Perry denied the motion for acquittal and that was that for the day.

Thursday morning the defense began presenting their “case” by calling Gerard Bloise, OCSO forensic technician back to the stand.  He told of processing Casey’s car, Tony Lazzaro’s Jeep, and clothing taken from Casey’s closet for presence of blood.  Everything was negative.  On cross Linda Drane-Burdick asked Mr. Bloise if Tony’s Jeep smelled like it had a dead body in it and he responded no.  On re-direct Baez asked if it had 3 week old garbage in it and Mr. Bloise responded no.

Next to the stand was Heather Seubert who worked as a Supervisory analyzer in the DNA analysis unit for the FBI in 2008.  She is the person who conducted the serological testing on items that had tested for potential presence of blood under ALS.  Everything was negative.  She also conducted the nuclear DNA testing on Caylee’s known sample and from the sample of the tibia found at the remains site.  Ms. Seubert also conducted nuclear DNA profiling on Casey, Cindy, George and Lee.

Jose Baez then asked Ms. Seubert about her DNA testing on the pieces of duct tape (Q62-Q64) found on Caylee’s skull.  This is where Baez brought in the “contaminated DNA” return that ended up belonging to Lorie Gottisman, another FBI employee.  He also brought up the infamous “17 allele” which he tried to show was from some unidentified person.  Baez also asked about DNA testing done on Brian Burner’s shovel.

Baez then asked if Ms. Seubert had been asked to conduct a parentage test for Caylee to see if Lee was her father.  This led to a hot mess because Ms. Seubert was never asked to conduct paternity testing and it was clear Baez was trying to slip in an insinuation that would bolster Baez’s claim in his opening statement that Lee molested Casey as a teenager.

Upon cross Jeff Ashton addressed the “17 allele” and the major point was that even if it could be used as a conclusive return George Anthony doesn’t have a 17 allele in the D3 loci, which the witness confirmed was correct.  Ashton also questioned Ms. Seubert as the degradation of DNA that would have taken place on the duct tape in the environment it was in and Ms. Seubert confirmed the environment would have had degrading effects on any DNA present.

Robyn Maynard was brought to the stand next.  She was the OCSO crime scene investigator who found the 3D gel heart-sticker at the site.  That’s about all that came out in this questioning.

Robert Murdoch, the OCSO investigator who mapped all the locations of evidence found on Suburban was then brought to the stand.  He was asked to bring up his mapping software and tell the jury the distance between the location of Caylee’s skull and where the heart-shaped sticker was found, which was about 30 feet.  Then Baez asked how far Q63 and Q64 were found from the skull at which point Linda Drane-Burdick and Jeff Ashton called him over to the State’s table and explained they were ON the skull.  All of a sudden he didn’t have anymore questions about that.

Baez then called Jennifer Welch, crime scene investigator for OCSO who took photographs of the remains scene, back to the stand.  He preceded to show a lot of pictures of trash that was collected from the remains scene.  Spent a lot of time doing it as well.  Linda Drane-Burdick got up and asked one question on cross:  Would you characterize the location Caylee’s remains were found at as a trash dump?  Ms. Welch answered yes.

Lorie Gottisman, FBI analyst in the question documents unit, was then called to the stand.  She is the one whose DNA was found on the nonadhesive side of the duct tape found on Caylee’s skull.  She also testified to using the VSC (Video Spectral Comparator) on Q63 to see if she could find the heart-shaped impression Ms. Fontaine had reported seeing.  She could not.

Then Mr. Cary Oien was called to the stand to talk about 1/4″ hair he found on the sticker on the handle of Brian Burner’s shovel.  Don’t ask me.  I still haven’t found out why this time was wasted.  Neither did Jeff Ashton apparently.

Friday saw exactly one witness on the stand all day long.  Dr. Tim Huntington, the defense’s forensic entomology expert was called to the stand.  This was a long day with a lot covered so I’ll just point you to the detailed report on that day instead of rehashing it here.  What I will add is that this is the first case of an expert witness getting on the stand and testifying to opinions that were not included in any report, not revealed in any deposition, and which was an ambush to the State.  Despite the underhanded, and intentionally misleading presentations the defense pulled off, this day did not end well for the defense.  Ashton rocked the Casbah…and Dr. Huntington’s world.

Then we get to Saturday – the half day of testimony that had more action than a week’s worth of Fourth of July.  It started out with the defense calling Dr. William Rodriguez, a forensic pathologist who had worked with Dr. Bass in setting up the “Body Farm”.  Dr. Rodriguez testified about the remains scene saying that no typical “ring” or “stain” had been found on the ground which is usually indicative of the initial deposition and decomposition site.  Like Dr. Huntington before him, it appeared that Dr. Rodriguez did not take into account that Caylee’s remains were triple-bagged, so I’m not sure why this would be a major point.

Then Dr. Rodriguez did something that caused an all out shitstorm to ensue.  He testified about Dr. Warren’s video that showed possible placement of the duct tape on Caylee’s skull.  He said there was no way to know where the duct tape was originally placed, other than it was in the head area.  This was the second time a defense expert testified to an opinion not included in their report or disclosed to the State.  This time, it got real fugly, real quick.

The jury was excused and a bit of a proffer took place at which point it was revealed Dr. Rodriguez had told Jose Baez of his opinion on the duct tape prior to issuing his report which did not contain this opinion.  That would be January of this year.  Judge Perry brought the hammer down on Baez.  He said that this was clearly intentional in order to ambush the state, that he would not allow this in his court, that this witness would step down for the day, that the State would have the opportunity to depose this witness at 1:00 pm yesterday, that he would not be back on the stand until Monday at the earliest, that the State might get to add new expert witnesses based on what they found out in the deposition, that he would entertain reading an instruction to the jury about the violation of disclosure laws if the State chose to draft one, and that he would consider contempt charges against Baez after the trial was over.

And he warned Baez that lightning does not strike twice in the same place, which means…this doesn’t need to happen again.  At least for this witness, if any other unrevealed opinion is stated on the stand by this witness, Judge Perry will exclude the witness entirely.  Baez was instructed to call his next witness.

When the jury returned Dr. Rodriguez was no longer on the stand and the next witness called was Dr. Werner Spitz, forensic pathologist expert for the defense.  Cheney Mason conducted the direct questioning of Dr. Spitz.  Going over just his credentials and experience took about a half hour.  Suffice it to say that Dr. Spitz has about 60 years experience, with his first autopsy possibly being on Jesus.

Dr. Spitz’s main message to the jury was two-fold:  1.)  Dr. G didn’t do a proper autopsy because she didn’t saw the top of Caylee’s skull off, and 2.) Dr. Spitz found black sediment on the left interior side of the skull which was desribed as “brain dust” indicative of the decomposition of the brain, deposition of the residual elements and compounds from the brain.  Dr. Spitz’s message on this latter point was that the skull had to have been lying slightly to the left in order for the deposition to occur.

Before we go any further on what happened in court, let me just say some things about Dr. G not sawing the top of the skull off.  In Jeff Ashton’s monumental cross of Dr. Spitz it would be brought out that while sawing the cap of the skull off might be standard operating procedure for a corpse which still has brain matter left, it doesn’t necessarily need to be done on fully skeletonized, disarticulated remains because the interior of the skull is visible by other means…and there is no brain to extract to be examined.

Setting that argument aside, because if you questioned X number of forensic pathologists about whether it was necessary or not based solely on complete skeletonization, you’d probably get half saying yes it was necessary and the other half saying no.  So who knows.  But let’s go back to an article JWG wrote in March of this year reviewing Dr. Spitz’s report after he conducted his second autopsy.  To quote form the article and report…

The skull was eggshell thickness without evidence of injury, pathological changes or deformity.

And then to revisit the autopsy report concerning the examination of Caylee’s skull…

The skull is removed from the bag, photographed, and xrays
are obtained
.

So the Medical Examiner not only examined the inside of the skull with light, but conducted xrays as well.  With the skull being “egg shell thin”, as described by Dr. Spitz, any fractures or staining due to brain hemorrhage, which was Dr. Spitz’s two main points for why the cap is removed, would have been identifiable using these techniques.

But back to the trial.  Dr. Spitz’s other points were that neither cause of death (which was ruled undetermined by Dr. G.) nor manner of death (which was ruled homicide by Dr. G.) could be determined.  The other topic that Dr. Spitz had an opinion on was the duct tape.  He does not agree it was placed on the face of Caylee Anthony prior to decomposition.  He believes it was placed after full skeletonization.  The problem is, that just prior to him stating this opinion, he had just said that there was no indication of tape adherence to the bones.  So, that’s a bit problematic.

One of Dr. Spitz’s contentions on the tape being placed prior to full decomposition is that there wasn’t any of Caylee’s DNA on it.  It didn’t seem to matter to Dr. Spitz that the body, and tape, had been in a Florida swamp for almost 6 months.  He gave the ridiculous comparison that he placed duct tape on his own arm and it would have his DNA on it.  If Dr. Spitz is willing to leave his arm with the requisite duct tape in a swamp for six months and then check…we’ll listen.

Then Jeff Ashton began cross of Dr. Spitz.  Holy moly sapphire.

Ashton asked Dr. Spitz what information, in addition to conducting the second autopsy (in which Spitz did saw the cap from Caylee’s skull) did he use to conclude that the manner of death was undetermined.  This is where we learned that the only additional information Dr. Spitz had was from Baez, Mason and the Anthonys (only he can’t remember who at the Anthony home he actually talked to – could have been the pizza delivery boy).  In other words, from the lying side of the court room.

On further questioning Dr. Spitz revealed he didn’t really care about the circumstances of Caylee’s life, and by default I guess what the circumstances were of her disappearance, prior to her death.  He admitted he knew she was supposed to have been turned over to a babysitter, and that her disappearance wasn’t reported for a month, but that didn’t seem to matter.  One thing that did matter is that when he went to the Anthony home he either saw a pool IN the house or AT the house and that might be the cause of the death, and therefore the manner of death…accidental drowning.  Dr. Spitz doesn’t get paid the big bucks to not remember when he needs to, or apparently to remember when he doesn’t need to.

Then Ashton questioned him about his accusation that Dr. G didn’t follow protocol and asked him where this protocol was written.  Conclusion…it’s not, he just knows it is one by golly and got real mad that anyone would question his authority what with JFK, Martin Luther King and Mary Jo Kopechne under his belt and 60,000 autopsies performed or assisted (by the way, if you take his work to extend a full 60 years that’s 1000 per year.  Working every day of the year for 60 years that’s about 3 autopsy a day, every single day – including Passover.  Something makes me question that number.)

Then he got off on houses, basements, whether you want a basement, and the full structure of things.  He lost me a bit here, but some where in there I’m certain he was making a point.  But guess what did get revealed during this rather heated exchange between Dr. Spitz and Jeff Ashton?  Dr. Spitz confessed he’s been out of mainstream pathology for some time now.  Oh, okay.  But nonetheless Dr. G’s autopsy was “shoddy” said Dr. Spitz and it was all Jeff’s fault because he provoked him.

Somewhere in here Dr. Spitz brought up, for the second time, that it was important Dr. G saw the skull open because it was a nationally covered high-profile case.  At this point Mr. Ashton asked him why that made any difference in how you would approach an autopsy and Dr. Spitz said it would make a difference versus an 85 year old woman who dies in her bed.  Jeff Ashton asked if that meant you only take special precautions when the media is looking versus when some one unknown and uncared for dies?

Then Jeff Ashton started listing off interviews Dr. Spitz had done.  Dr. Spitz couldn’t remember an interview just from this past week.  That’s gonna leave a mark.  Ashton went on to point out that Dr. Spitz seems to gravitate toward high-profile cases and rattled off several of them the doctor had been involved in.  In other words, no matter what credit MUST go to Dr. Spitz’s respectable career and prior work, he’s an aged old glorified and elitist ambulance chaser now.

Then Jeff Ashton questioned Dr. Spitz about whether the “brain dust” couldn’t possibly be dirt since the skull was in dirty water off and on for 5 or 6 months.  No!  Dr. Spitz said PLEASE you have to trust me…this is brain dust.  Did you test it, Ashton asked.  No, if someone wants to they can, I didn’t do it.  The ME didn’t do it either – shame on them.  Are you positive it’s brain dust and not dirt.  YES!  Unless someone tests it and tells me otherwise (lol).

And then it all got crazy from there.

I can’t do it justice, I assure you.  Waving mandibles, somebody’s poor skull on the witness stand with top up top down mandible over here mandible over there mandible in the air mandible everywhere, soap, more soap, wet soap, sticky soap, sticky hair, water effect on everything but brain dust (which must have some molecular weight equivalent to Ununseptium because swamp water can move everything at the remains scene except the highly weighted doesn’t move once it lands “brain dust” ), conspiracies, skull stealers who like to take skulls home, duct tape them together and put them back in a swamp…you name it, this story’s got it!  YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!

Jeff Ashton broke it to Dr. Spitz that when he did saw the cap off Caylee’s skull he fractured the skull, which leads me to a question.  How in holy hell did he do an examination on Caylee’s skull looking for fractures, not know he broke the thing, and then conclude there were no fractures.  If he didn’t know he broke it, then the fracture should have been noted on his autopsy report, right?  WTF???

Dr. Spitz said the medical examiner’s office, or somebody in their evil enclave of nefarious deeds done dirt cheap, staged the hair.  You got that right, they moved the hair when it got to the ME office.  Moved it all around for some reason.  What reason they would have is beyond me, but they did, dammit, according to Dr. Spitz.

Dr. Spitz took scrapings of the highly significant brain dust…he either gave it to someone (who he doesn’t remember) or he kept it – he has no clue what he did with the all-important brain dust!  Dr. Spitz’s overall theory about the remains and the duct tape are as follows:

  • Remains on Suburban Drive, no duct tape.
  • Stager (we will assume based on the opening statement this “stager” is Roy Kronk) goes to remains, takes the skull…maybe even home if you will where his prized duct tape collection is stored…taped the mandible in place because this is – for some unknown and if it were known HIGHLY BIZARRE REASON – VERY IMPORTANT!
  • Stager puts the skull back where he found it but now in the anatomically correct position and not in the position it was in while the remains were decomposing.
  • Medical examiner’s office, or someone working on their behalf maybe, moves the hair all around after the skull is taken from Suburban Drive.  Again, for some unknown and disturbing reason.
  • Duct tape on arm with no residue = duct tape on bone with no residue.  Dr. Spitz says so – he has the arm to prove it.


 

 


Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Pengy:

I like Valhall's summings up

So do I. I love the humour loved this bit.

 

 

 

'Suffice it to say that Dr. Spitz has about 60 years experience, with his first autopsy possibly being on Jesus.'

 

 

 

Soozy Woo

For anyone who may be interested - here's a link of the correspondence between Spitz and Baez - looks to me like the old man was putting himself forward for another big pay day - little did Baez realise that the old boy has completely lost his marbles.

 

 http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles ... z-0315.pdf 

 

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Soozy Woo:
Originally Posted by Pengy:

I like Valhall's summings up

So do I. I love the humour loved this bit.

 

 

 

'Suffice it to say that Dr. Spitz has about 60 years experience, with his first autopsy possibly being on Jesus.'

 

 

 

I pmsl at that

FM

im watching part 6 of 7 of saturdays testimony. OMG i am gobsmacked !!!!

 

This dodery old codger is one of the main witnesses of casey anthony

 

Its laughable! but i like him he should be in a horror film

FM
ediaOriginally Posted by Gypsie~:

im watching part 6 of 7 of saturdays testimony. OMG i am gobsmacked !!!!

 

This dodery old codger is one of the main witnesses of casey anthony

 

Its laughable! but i like him he should be in a horror film

I'm fairly certain he's available for weddings, barmitzvahs and any starring parts in forthcoming horror movies. The old boy will do anything to prop up his retirement fund IMO ...............not my words but - it's pretty obvious he's media whore'

 

Bugger, bugger, bugger - I can't seem to undo the italica and underlining. I don't like him at all TBH - something very sinister and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeugh about him IMO. Looks very much to me like he's turned up to take the money and discredit Dr G - I think he's jealous of her TV success and believes he should have his own show. Bitter, cynical and effin arrogant old goat . that's just my opinion of course 

Soozy Woo

I agree soozy, other witnesses have come to give the facts and thats it, he seems hell bent on making people believe he has all the answers, he is right and he could solve this case. Hes trying really hard to 'work' for the defence.

FM
Originally Posted by Gypsie~:

I agree soozy, other witnesses have come to give the facts and thats it, he seems hell bent on making people believe he has all the answers, he is right and he could solve this case. Hes trying really hard to 'work' for the defence.

Love you Gyps I think we're seeing it the same way ............why weren't we called onto the jury?

Soozy Woo
Originally Posted by Gypsie~:

my very very VERY favourite quote, possibly of this trial so far

 

‎"the head is an extremely important item, there are all kinds of things in a head"

 

Another one..... 

 

"the head is part of the body."


"just like the basement is part of a house".

"and you wouldn't want to buy a house without a basement, unless you didn't want a basement, then you could probably find a house that didn't have one."

 

Scotty
Hahahahahahah..... love that one too, god i was loving his testemony yesterday, for all the wrong reasons I was laughing like mad too ev
Originally Posted by Scotty:

"and you wouldn't want to buy a house without a basement, unless you didn't want a basement, then you could probably find a house that didn't have one."

FM
Originally Posted by Gypsie~:
Hahahahahahah..... love that one too, god i was loving his testemony yesterday, for all the wrong reasons I was laughing like mad too ev
Originally Posted by Scotty:

"and you wouldn't want to buy a house without a basement, unless you didn't want a basement, then you could probably find a house that didn't have one."

*runs to look for more*

 

Ev (Peachy)

Caylee Anthony case: Trial day 24 – 06/21/11

Yesterday was short, involved no witnesses being questioned and no evidence submitted in the murder trial of Casey Anthony.  In fact, court was in session only about an hour before being recessed until today.  But I don’t think anyone in their right minds can say that “nothing happened yesterday”.  Boy oh boy, did it!

Things didn’t get off well in the first place.  Apparently Judge Perry had let both sides know that if they had issues that need to be heard outside the presence of the jury they were to inform the court by 8:20 a.m. so that court could begin at 8:30 to address these things and not take up the time of the jury, or delay the trial.  So the fact that something did come up at 9:00 a.m. had Judge Perry admonishing both groups.  Before it was over he let both sides know that all lawyers, from now on, are expected to be in the court room by 8:30 a.m. each trial day.

The next thing that happened is that Jeff Ashton let the Judge know that he had deposed Dr. William Rodriguez for 2 hours on Saturday afternoon as agreed in court Saturday morning, and that he had received the transcript Sunday afternoon/evening.  He requested that Dr. Rodriguez be deferred in taking the stand to give him last evening, at least, to review the deposition transcript further so he could formulate his questions for trial.  He also mentioned that there was one area that Dr. Rodriguez indicated he would be offering an opinion on that Mr. Ashton felt there would be a “qualification” issue.  Apparently Dr. Rodriguez is prepared to testify that no one can discern human decomposition.

Then Jeff Ashton informed the court he would be preparing a second sanctions packet for the court’s consideration concerning Dr. Richard Eikelenboom (this is the defense’s expert who specializes in “contact DNA” aka “trace DNA” aka “low copy DNA” testing).  Jeff Ashton explained that Baez sent Dr. Eikelenboom over to Jeff Ashton’s office yesterday afternoon/evening to be deposed.  (It was not made clear if Jeff Ashton was informed of this prior to Dr. Eikelenboom showing up or not.)  Ashton explained that at the time Dr. Eikelenboom showed up the only “report” the State had ever received concerning Dr. Eikelenboom’s opinions was a half page that basically said he had no specific opinions.  Ashton explained that’s why he hadn’t been deposed in the first place, and why he couldn’t possibly have been deposed yesterday, because the State didn’t know enough about what he was planning to say to even formulate intelligent probing questions for a deposition.

Basically an attorney is not expected to walk into a deposition of an expert witness blind and conduct a deposition as a fishing expedition to find out what it is they need to be asking that you think you might testify to.  Depositions don’t typically start with the first question by the deposing attorney being, “So…..tell us why you’ve been subpoenad to testify in this case?” or “So…..what in blue blazes are you going to be talking about up there?”

So Jeff Ashton went on to explain that he turned Dr. Eikelenboom away because Ashton did not have sufficient information on the opinions the doctor would be testifying to, he then received a 2-page report, and I believe he said a 45-page powerpoint that would be used as a demonstrative aide during testimony, from the defense and has scheduled Dr. Eikelenboom’s deposition for this evening at 5:30 pm.  So he was asking that he be given time to get that done, get the transcript, review it and prepare for cross with this witness prior to Dr. Eikelenboom being called to the stand.

Jose Baez got up to the podium and for over 12 minutes explained how….this was all Jeff Ashton’s fault.  Ashton didn’t do his job and he’s playing games.  Ashton didn’t depose these experts so that he could then try to have them excluded as witnesses at trial.  Baez has done everything he possibly can to follow the court’s orders, he can’t help it if all his experts appear to be unfamiliar with what a report is or can’t understand the term “all opinions you will testify to”.  It’s not his fault, it’s Jeff Ashton’s.  Then he sat down, finally.

Judge Perry then asked Jeff Ashton and Jose Baez to look at the court room clock and tell him what time it was.  Jeff Ashton said 9:25, Jose Baez said 9:26.  Judge Perry said there’s your proof you two will never agree, and then…Judge Perry said:

That in December 2010 the court issued the following order:

 

When experts have not prepared reports of examination of tests both the state and the defense are required to provide the following information what shall be filed with the Clerk of the Court in forms of written pleadings:

the expert CV or qualifications of expert
the expert’s field of expertise or medical certainty
a statement of the specific subjects upon which the expert will testify and offer opinions
the substance of the facts to which the expert is expected to testify
and a summary of the expert’s opinion
and grounds for each opinion

that was done because of a couple of reports that basically contained nothing.

The Court thought that that order cleared up the situation.

Here we go again…

In January 2011, the court entered another order requiring:

a statement of the specific subjects which an expert will testify and offer certain opinions
the substance of the facts to which the expert is expected to testify
and a summary of the expert’s opinions
and the grounds for each opinion

The Court gave out an example of what was submitted on behalf of Dr. Henry Lee.  The Court goes on in its order to say the defense shall provide written reports to the State from all expert witnesses which shall include the following information:

a complete statement of the opinions the witness will express
and the reasons for those opinions
and any data or any information considered by the witness in forming

their opinions or conclusions

The Court in those two orders required both the state and the defense to have expert witnesses list all opinions they would give.  The purpose of depositions are to expound upon those opinions and as all lawyers know there is an opportunity for subopinions once someone gives a main opinion that they may want to discuss.  It has never been the intent to, by depositions, to alleviate the responsibility, and that was not the intent of this Court’s order, to rely say well you can either take their depositions or the report.  The orders are quite clear to me.  This court does not make threats.  This court simply applies the rules.
When the State of Florida had an exhibit they wanted to introduce (i.e. a demonstrative exhibit) that was not given to the defense, that exhibit was excluded and the State was not allowed to utilize that exhibit.

The Court on Saturday indicated that it was put in a proverbial corner not being able to exclude these opinions by the defense.  If you read all the cases dealing with the exclusion of evidence, it frowns upon that, because you punish the defendant.  But what the Florida Supreme Court did not close the door on, if someone continues to repeatedly violate orders of the court it leaves the door open regardless of those due process considerations, that as the final ultimate sanction.

There’s never been a case where that final ultimate sanction has been imposed and upheld by a court that I know of.  But one would surmise that if someone continuously violates a court order with impunity, whether or not the Court would be left powerless or whether or not the Supreme Court would say this is the case, despite the due process implications, where the ultimate sanction of exclusion would be proper.

Yes there has been gamesmanship in this particular case.  And it is quite evident that there is a friction between attorneys.  That is something that I guess the Florida bar will deal with and at the conclusion of this trial this court will deal with violations that may or may not have occurred.  But it is not proper for the Court to deal with it now during the pendency of this very serious litigation.

As to the request of the state as to defer the testimony of Dr. Rodriguez I will grant that request.

Let me say this to both sides, if I was the state or the defense, I would make sure when we recess this afternoon that I would go through the reports of all my experts and make sure that their opinions were contained in the reports or depositions.  As I explained to both sides, subopinions, as long as it’s under that general area, on minor things, those things are going to come up in cross or direct, you can’t anticipate everything but both sides need to be forewarned that exclusion, even at the price of having to do it all over again, which I don’t think I will have to do it all over again because of repeated violations…exclusion may be the proper remedy if it continues.

 

 

Judge Perry then asked who the defense’s next witness would be now that Dr. Rodriguez would not be taking the stand.  Jose Baez said it was to be Dr. Eikelenboom, but since that wasn’t going to happen they would need about 30 minutes to get their next witness to the court house.

Judge Perry recessed for 45 minutes.  Court did not reconvene until almost an hour later at which time Judge Perry stated that both sides had entered into a stipulation that Court would be recessed until today at 9:00 a.m.  He asked both sides if they agreed, and it is worth noting that neither Jeff Ashton nor Jose Baez responded when the Judge requested a response.  Instead Linda Drane-Burdick answered for the State and Cheney Mason answered for the defense.

Judge Perry did inform both sides that this coming Saturday will be a full day of trial, unlike the previous Saturdays that have been half days.  He also stated that to keep this trial on track he was willing to start at 8:30 am each morning, take only 30 minute lunches, and work late if need be.  He appears to be very tired of the Court’s time (and the sequestered jury’s time) being wasted and having to suffer interruptions and delays.

The murder trial for Casey Anthony will continue today beginning at 9:00 am ET, but please keep in mind that as stated above, from now on court could begin as early as 8:30 am ET if either side has a motion they want to present to the Court.

 

 

 

Scotty

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Day 23: Courtroom Meltdown, No Witnesses

Court Dismissed Earlier Because Of Witness Issues

 

POSTED: 5:38 pm EDT June 20, 2011
UPDATED: 6:06 pm EDT June 20, 2011

 

 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An issue between attorneys on both sides prevented testimony Monday in the Casey Anthony murder trial.

 

The prosecution accused the defense of not fully disclosing the expert opinion of an upcoming witness. Lead defense attorney Jose Baez fired back and said prosecutor Jeff Ashton was at fault for not questioning the witness over the weekend.

 

Judge Belvin Perry had hoped to have testimony wrapped up by the end of the week, and he wasn't happy about another delay in the case.

 

Anthony looked surprised after a day in court that ended almost as quickly as it began. Ashton said he received an upcoming expert witness report and Powerpoint presentation on Saturday. He accused Baez of violating full disclosure orders.

 

"I will be preparing a sanctions package for the court because I think this is another deliberate violation of the court's order," Ashton said.

 

"He sat and decided not to take a deposition," Baez responded.

 


Baez argued Ashton refused to take their expert's deposition as a tactic to limit Anthony's defense and discredit him.

 

"He wants to go after her lawyer, too, and I think it is repulsive," Baez said.

 

Perry granted Ashton's request for more time to prepare cross-examination of a key defense expert rescheduled from Saturday and about to take the stand. That threw off the schedule.

 

"All of this, folks, is going to stop, or you will be working some very fierce days," Perry said.

 

Before calling for a recess, Perry said he would consider excluding key witness testimony if violations don't stop. He has already threatened Baez with contempt charges down the road.

 

 

"At the conclusion of this case, we'll deal with violations which may or may not have occurred," Perry said.

 

The court reporter was summoned to the jury room before court was adjourned. The two sides had apparently come to some agreement, but there was no comment on what it was or what the jury was told.

 

There is no love lost between Ashton and Baez, but the dislike between the two has begun to affect the trial. Perry directed his tongue lashing not just at the defense but also toward the state. It was a rebuke that legal analysts said both attorneys deserved.

 

"There is no reason why they shouldn't have been ironing out these reports in private months and months ago, but they don't talk to each other, and that venom and that vitriole is becoming apparent now, and it's really affecting Ms. Anthony's due-process rights," attorney Jeff Deen said.

 

Deen said he believes personal sanctions from the Florida Bar and the court are likely for both Ashton and Baez.

 

"Whatever their personal feelings are about each other, the profession is going to demand they do better than this, and I think its both sides, so I understand that Mr. Baez has been the focus of this, but he didn't get there by himself," Deen said.

 

But some legal experts also said Perry bears some of the blame because he has allowed Baez, an inexperienced attorney, to keep pushing the case forward despite the fact that, on paper, Cheney Mason, who is qualified to try capital cases, is the lead attorney.

 

"He does it on paper, but he's not doing it in the courtroom, and that is what's important, who is the lead attorney in the courtroom, and that's why I fault Judge Perry. I think he should not be yelling at Jose Baez but yelling at Cheney Mason, because at the end of the day, Cheney Mason is one who will be cited as lead attorney on appeal," attorney Richard Hornsby said.

 

Hornsby went on to say that he thinks one reason we may not be hearing as much from Cheney Mason is because he's simply not as familiar with the case as Baez, and Baez has the closer relationship with Anthony.



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Ev (Peachy)

Today's Testimony Resumes In Casey Anthony Trial

Botanist Testifies Remains Could Have Been In Woods For 2 Weeks

 

POSTED: 11:07 am EDT June 21, 2011 Tuesday
UPDATED: 11:23 am EDT June 21, 2011


 
A forensic botanist has testified that 2-year-old Caylee Anthony's remains could have been in the woods for as little as two weeks before they were discovered in December 2008, a much shorter time period than prosecutors alleged.

 

 

The defense witness, Jane Bock, told jurors Tuesday she believed the roots could have grown through the bones, skull and a laundry bag in two weeks. Prosecutors have said Caylee's remains had been in the woods since the summer of 2008.

 

It's day 24 of Casey Anthony's trial. She is charged with first-degree murder in the death of Caylee and faces a possible death sentence, if convicted. She has pleaded not guilty.

 

The testimony resumed Tuesday following a one-day delay. Judge Belvin Perry scolded attorneys on both sides Monday for their constant bickering.



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Ev (Peachy)

Caylee Anthony case: Trial day 25 – 06/22/11

Court started at 8:30 am with Jeff Ashton bringing up discovery violations by the defense concerning Richard Eikelenboom.  There is one area that was revealed in the deposition the State apparently conducted last evening with this witness that Ashton feels the witness is not qualified, and there may need to be a Frye hearing on.  Apparently Eikelenboom is prepared to testify that DNA testing should be able to be done (I would assume successfully) on decompositional testing.  Ashton stated the only thing Eikelenboom could produce in forming this opinion was anecdotal information; no research.  Also, Eikelenboom formulated this opinion Saturday at lunch with Jose Baez.

So, Jeff Ashton requested that the Court read an instruction to the jury concerning Eikelenboom’s testimony and the defense’s discovery violation.  He gave that over to Judge Perry.  Then Jose Baez got up and once again referenced that he had used the generic phrase “this witness will there to rebut any false claims provided by the State’s witnesses”.  We know, Jose, we saw it.

The defense said they wanted to draft an alternative instruction to be read to the jury.  Judge Perry said he would take what they came up with and draft his own.  Baez also wanted to present an argument about some new discovery the State had just presented him.  It was around 9 am by this time and Judge Perry told him he would hear the matter on Baez’s lunch break.

The defense then called Jennifer Welch back to the stand.  She is the OCSO crime scene investigator who took pictures at the remains scene.  For the first time we saw Dorothy Sims conducting direct questioning.  I’m sorry.  I think Ms. Sims is a classy lady and a nice soft change to the jury, but I haven’t seen her questioning a witness yet (either in pre-trial hearings or now in the trial) that I could even tell what she was trying to get out of them.  And I’m not trying to be mean and close-minded, I really can’t follow what she’s trying to present.

 

The best I can tell is that the whole questioning of Jennifer Welch was toward the big picture presented at the end of her testimony showing the remain scene scraped bare to the ground.  And I’m assuming this was a segue into the picture that would be presented by Dr. Bock next to show that from December 14th, 2008 to February 1, 2009 there was an accumulation of some leaf litter.  And I’m fairly confident that’s what the purpose of having Welch on the stand was, but the problem is that it was totally ineffective as far as I can see.  And I’ll explain after I get through Dr. Bock’s testimony.

So Dr. Jane Bock was next.  I find Dr. Bock to be adorable.  I don’t think she was a “game changer” and I’m not sure how the jury could buy what she’s selling, but you’ve definitely got to give this beautiful woman credit for sticking her ground.  Her ground is – 2 weeks.  Caylee’s body could have been there for as little as 2 weeks and gotten all the humas and leaf litter buid up, roots grown through the bags (both plastic and into the canvas laundry bag), and even into Caylee’s little bones in 2 weeks.  That’s her story and she sticking with it.

Dr. Bock’s experience in Florida’s flora isn’t very strong and I think Jeff Ashton did a fairly good job of pointing that out.  But more importantly I don’t think the supporting “evidence” was brought out strongly under direct and redirect under questioning by Ms. Sims.  And here’s well we’ll go back to Jennifer Welch’s testimony and why these back to back women’s testimonies did not get the impact the defense hoped for (and let me be clear, I don’t think they could have made it impactful because the evidence they are trying to present to the jury simply isn’t there).

 

Here are the problems:

  • Jennifer Welch testified to the crime scene investigators having clear to between 0 and 4 inches of leaf litter, vegetation and humas to get down to ground level and having to clear up to 10 inches around trees and tree roots.
  • Jeff Ashton brought out during Dr. Bock’s cross that the Medical Examiner who retrieved Caylee’s skull described having to reach approximately 6 inches into the leaf litter and humas to get to the bottom of Caylee’s skull.
  • The picture that was taken on February 1st at Suburban Drive when Dr. Bock and a photographer visited the remains scene appeared to be anywhere near this deep, but more importantly was not measured by Dr. Bock.  And this is where I say I don’t think the defense could have done any better on this because I don’t believe they even wanted to know how deep the leaf litter and humas was on February 1st – because itwasn’t anywhere near to that deep.
  • This all reduces to that in 7-1/2 weeks the leaf litter and humas didn’t accumulate or grow at the rates that Dr. Bock claims they could have in 2 weeks from the end of November to December 11th, 2008.

Mr. Richard Eikelenboom then took the stand with the jury not in the court room.  Judge Perry questions Mr. Eikelenboom:

  • When were you first contacted by the defense?  – July 13, 2010
  • Were  you informed that you were required to produce a report containing the opinions you developed after studying the evidence?  – No, only the affidavit
  • Were you ever informed (and Judge Perry reads his exact court order on what documentation is required to be turned over for each expert)? – No
  • How did the defense communicate with you? – Phone, email and Skype
  • Between December 2010 and May 2011 were you ever instructed to put your findings in a report that met the orders I read to you? – No
  • Who was the primary person on the defense team you had contacted with? – Jose Baez
  • From May 2011 until now were you ever asked to put your findings in the written format I just outlined? – Last Saturday night he was asked to write a report and produced the 2-page report.
  • How many have times have you communicated with the defense? – Spoke to them before analyzing the evidence; spoke to them immediately following analyzing the evidence; did not hear from defense for a long time and “lost track of the investigation”
  • Between December 2010 and May 2011 were you readily available to be contacted by the defense team either by email, phone or Skype? – Yes
  • You didn’t disappear during that time, did you? – No

Jose Baez gets up and tries to blame it all on Michelle Medina and Eikelenboom’s wife.  All communications on required written reports were passed between these two.  Couldn’t possibly be Baez’s fault.

Judge Perry was, once again, unpersuaded.  He found as fact the following:

  • It is the obligation of an attorney to ensure their witnesses abide by the orders of the Court (not their assistant’s and not their witness’s wives)…(I think most attorneys ensure communications be putting them in writing, some times going so far as sending them by certified mail, but hey – what do I know?)
  • This discovery violations was willful and not inadvertent.
  • This issue (i.e. Mr. Eikelenboom’s proposed testimony on being able to conduct successful DNA testing on decomposition fluids) is not trivial but substantial.
  • Witness’s testimony on this issue will not be permitted at this time.
  • Defense and State will be given one week to file motions requesting a Frye hearing on the matter.  If they do, the hearing will be conducted next Wednesday or Thursday after a full day of trial has completed.

Once the jury returned Judge Perry read his instruction to the jury, which stated there had been a discovery violation and therefore this information could be considered by the jury in weighing the credibility of the witness’s testimony.  Jeff Ashton vetted Eikelenboom’s qualifications and stated the State objected to his qualifications in DNA.  After Baez had questioned Eikelenboom further Judge Perry allowed him as an expert in DNA.

Then there was the lunch break.  Jose Baez, outside the presence of the jury, got up and presented his complaint about just receiving supplemental discovery from the State and attempted a tit-for-tat since his tit is in a ringer and he apparently also wants to see at least one tit from the opposing side in the same ringer.

Linda Drane-Burdick got up to present the State’s position on the matter.  First we’ll go over what the defense was provided this morning:

1.  information from an investigation that began after the State received a phone call from a citizen informing them that there was a former OCSO inmate, April Whalen, who was reported to have been in an adjoining cell next to Casey for a period of time.  Curiously, according to the caller and apparently substantiated by the investigation, April Whalen’s small child accidentally drowned in the family swimming pool and was discovered by her father, who immediately began CPR.

Linda Drane-Burdick stated they had been investigating the tip since last Thursday and at this time did not think they would be presenting Ms. Whalen to testify during rebuttal because Ms. Whalen has told them that she did not converse with Casey Anthony.  Burdick did say they were continuing to investigation whether Whalen had shared her story with someone else at the jail who could have then shared the story with Casey.  If so, Whalen may be on the stand later.

Linda Drane-Burdick stated she had received the investigative report yesterday and immediately filed the Supplemental Discovery notice today, presenting the defense with the information as soon as possible.

2.  The second thing that was turned over to the defense was an abridged data file of the overall hard drive data file from the Anthony’s HP desktop.  What the state had done, after the opening statement of the defense, was request a computer forensic person filter the entire hard drive contents down to just the activity on June 16th, 2008.  They did this because in Jose Baez’s opening statement he claims that this dramatic scene of an accidental death and George becoming master mind of a cover up all happened on June 16th.  Linda Drane-Burdick stated that the activity on the desktop that day, including IMs, photographs, etc., would negate that claim.

As far as any discovery violation, Linda Drane-Burdick stated that the defense sent their computer forensics expert to OCSO 2 years ago with a hard drive and that expert transferred the entire hard drive contents onto his harddrive.  So…they’ve had this information for 2 years.

Jose Baez got back up and basically argued that the State didn’t filter the hard drive contents down for the defense so, that’s just wrong and besides they fired their computer dude.

Judge Perry said the defense had the information for 2 years and that he was really surprised that June 16th (or June 15th or June 17th for that matter) 2008 wasn’t important enough to the defense to look at the activity on the computer themselves and that the defense choosing not to utilize their experts or the evidence handed over to them wasn’t really a concern of the State’s, or anything he could control.

Judge Perry said he would allow this to come in on rebuttal and told Baez he would be allowed to get his computer dude back and do some real attorney work there before that happens.

When the jury returned from lunch break Mr. Eikelenboom took the stand and testified about DNA testing, Low Copy DNA testing and the nuances of contact and touch DNA.  Here’s the important things that came out during Mr. Eikelenboom’s testimony:

  • The environmental conditions in the swamp were pretty bad for DNA to survive undegraded or even completely destroyed.  Heat and water are two of the worst things to introduce if you want to preserve DNA.
  • Low copy DNA testing is highly susceptible to “contaminated” returns because it amplifies everything there.  So Low copy DNA testing you have a greater risk of getting a profile on someone who may not have anything to do with the crime.
  • Contamination from one person will not mask a lower level of a prior person’s DNA on an item except in the case of the allele’s being the same.  So, for instance, the infamous 17 allele in the D3 loci could only be masked if another person with a 17 allele in the D3 loci contaminated the tape.  A different allele in the same loci will not mask a different allele in that same loci.  They will just show up as multiple peaks at that loci.
  • Tape next to rotting flesh will have DNA evidence on the tape degrade faster than if the tape is not next to rotting flesh because the same microbial activity that is decomposing the body will also attack the DNA on the tape.
  • Mr. Eikelenboom was never asked to test the duct tape found on Caylee’s skull.
  • (And though it did not come out in this testimony, it is worth noting he was never asked to test the stain on the trunk liner for DNA either – even though he’s prepared to say, apparently, if he did he might get DNA if it were really decomposition fluid…so now you can clearly see the State’s argument here.)

Yuri Melich was called back to the stand.  I wish I could state with confidence why.  The best I can tell is that Jose Baez was trying to show lax, sloppy investigative work because he kept questioning Yuri about why so much time between him learning of the chloroform levels in the trunk and the chloroform searches on the computer went by before OCSO conducted a search of the Anthony home for chloroform (which was after the remains were found).  The only thing I think Jose was highly successful at during this questioning was reminding the jury that the trunk had high levels of chlorform and Casey did a whole lot of searches for chloroform on the Anthony computer.

The last witness called was Dr. Marcus Wise who works at ORNL as an analytical chemist.  While this testimony went on and on for a long time here are the highlights:

  • Dr. Marcus Wise is a very good witness – for the State.
  • Jose Baez tried to show that the returns from Dr. Wise’s GC/MS testing might be suspect.  I don’t think he was successful, but I’m not on the jury.
  • No matter how many times Jose Baez asked, and no matter how he reworded it, Dr. Marcus Wise was firm in his admiration for Dr. Vass, in how intelligent and talented a scientist Dr. Vass is, and that Dr. Vass has 15 years experience in chemistry at ORNL.  The more Baez tried to get Dr. Wise to state Dr. Vass was not a chemist, the more the State’s Witness, Dr. Arpad Vass, got bolstered.  You’d think he would have caught on after a while.
  • Dr. Wise supported the previous statements by Dr. Vass that the levels of chloroform in the trunk liner were surprisingly high.  And, despite Baez and his quantitative versus qualitative mantra, Dr. Marcus Wise could darn tootin’ make that statement.

Today will be a short trial date.  Even though the trial is scheduled to start at 9:00 am ET, from here on out is highly advised you be watching by 8:30 am because it appears a lot of activity can take place in that half hour!

 

 

Scotty
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Casey Defense To Kronk: Get To Court Tuesday

Man Who Found Caylee's Remains Summoned For Testimony, Attorney Says

 

POSTED: 10:37 pm EDT June 27, 2011
UPDATED: 6:27 am EDT June 28, 2011

 

 

 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The man who found Caylee Anthony’s remains in December 2008 has been told to report to the Orange County Courthouse first thing Tuesday morning, his attorney told WESH 2 News.

 

Former meter reader Roy Kronk found the remains off of Suburban Drive in 2008.

 

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Casey Anthony, 25, faces first-degree murder charges for the death of her daughter.

 

Her defense maintains the remains were placed in the woods after Anthony was jailed on her murder indictment.

 

Defense attorneys claim Kronk moved the remains so as to cash in on a reward.

 

Kronk’s attorney, David Evans, said late Monday that the defense requested Kronk’s presence at the courthouse first thing Tuesday.

 

He maintains he had nothing to do with Caylee’s death and disappearance.

 

Kronk went so far last August as to give receipts to prosecutors proving his whereabouts the day before he found the remains.

 

Kronk was off work that day, and Anthony’s defense team previously suggested that he took the day off to orchestrate the discovery of Caylee’s body.

 

Kronk said the clutch went out in his car that day, so he had to be towed to a Sanford auto repair shop and wait for hours of costly repairs to be completed.

 

 

Receipts were given to prosecutors by Kronk’s attorney for both the tow and the repair job.

 

Judge Belvin Perry ruled in January that the defense could not introduce any evidence on Kronk's prior bad acts.

 

Perry said the defense claimed that Kronk had a "possible history of inappropriate behavior with young girls," a history of "abusing, restraining, and holding women against their will," using duct tape to restrain women and even said there is a chance that he knew the locations of the remains before alerting law enforcement.

 

 
 
Kronk On Finding Remains

 

Perry said that Kronk could be questioned about his calls to law enforcement to report a suspicious bag, but the defense cannot use his alleged history as evidence that he could be a suspect in the case.

 

Kronk collected a $5,000 CrimeLine reward for his tip that led to the remains.

 

Former Anthony family spokesman Mark NeJame also gave Kronk $5,000 earlier as a goodwill gesture. Kronk also received a $20,000 photo licensing fee for a nationally televised interview after the discovery.

 

Testimony in the trial resumes NOW



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Raw Video: George On Molestation

POSTED: 10:40 am EDT June 29, 2011
UPDATED: 10:52 am EDT June 29, 2011


 
 



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Kronk, Casey's Family Testify On Remains, Affair

Kronk Found Remains In December 2008

 

POSTED: 12:25 pm EDT June 28, 2011
UPDATED: 12:36 pm EDT June 28, 2011



 

 

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Testimony Tuesday morning in the Casey Anthony murder trial looked like a who's who of the case, with three of Anthony's family members, the lead detective and the man who found Caylee's remains all taking the stand.

 

The defense called Roy Kronk only about a half hour before the lunch recess. Kronk found Caylee's remains in December 2008 in the woods off of Suburban Drive.

 


 

Anthony's defense alleged in opening statements that Kronk moved the remains to cash in on a reward.

 

Kronk maintains he had no involvement with Caylee's death and disappearance and only happened upon the body as he was going about his meter reading route.

 

He testified Tuesday about occasions in August 2008 when he attempted to alert police to an object he saw in the woods.

 

Kronk said he went into the woods to relieve himself on Aug. 11 and saw "something that looks white" and a gray bag, according to his testimony and a transcript of the call.

 

Nothing was discovered, but Kronk called authorities again on Aug. 12 and 13. He testified a deputy met him at the site on August 13. Court documents show the deputy told Kronk the area had already been searched.

 

Earlier, defense attorney Jose Baez asked Casey's father, George, about accusations of an affair from a volunteer searcher.

 

Crystal Holloway, also known as River Cruz, said George told her his granddaughter's death was "an accident that snowballed out of control."

 

 
 
George: I Never Had An Affair
 
 
Kronk On Call To OCSO

 

"I never had a romantic affair with Crystal Holloway, or River Cruz, or any name she wanted to give you or the world," George Anthony angrily told Baez. He added that the woman has a "questionable past" and a criminal record.

 

George Anthony testified he did visit Holloway at her gated condominium, showing identification to the complex guard, "to console" her after she told him that she had a brain tumor and was dying. He said because she was helping him and his family search for Caylee after she disappeared, he felt it "was the least I could do."

 

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He said his wife -- Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony -- was aware he visited Holloway and had also been told about her brain tumor. He said he always visited during the day, as he could set his own hours at his job.

 

Jurors also heard from Joseph Jordan, a volunteer who searched the area near where the remains were found in late August and early September.

 

The Texas EquuSearch volunteer sent an e-mail to authorities just after Caylee's remains were found, telling police he was in the area and suggesting the body had been moved there after his search.

 

Questioned about that Monday, Jordan told prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick that he had made a mistake and that he did not, in fact, search the area where the remains were found.

 

 
 
Jordan Invokes Fifth

 

Defense attorney J. Cheney Mason asked Jordan whether he was threatened with a felony charge in the case, prompting Jordan to invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination -- and prompting an objection from Burdick about that being elicited in front of the jury. After a brief sidebar conference, Orange County Chief Judge Belvin Perry sent Jordan out of the courtroom so the matter could be hashed out.

 

According to the attorneys, the judge and court documents, the threatened charge -- unlawful interception of a conversation, a third-degree felony in Florida -- had to do with a conversation Jordan surreptitiously recorded in October 2009 between himself and a defense investigator relating to the case. Mason protested that he had no idea Jordan was going to take the Fifth Amendment when asked about it, and Perry agreed, saying, "He could have simply answered yes or no" to Mason's question.

 

However, he said it is fair game for Mason to bring up prosecutors' granting Jordan a type of immunity -- but not total immunity -- in the matter. He ruled the defense cannot ask about the details of the alleged offense because that would require Jordan to invoke his Fifth Amendment rights. Perry said he would ask the jury to disregard Jordan's statement regarding the Fifth Amendment



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Casey Judge To Rule On Mistrial Motion, Testimony

Big Decisions In Casey Case Expected

 

POSTED: 6:40 am EDT June 29, 2011
UPDATED: 7:35 am EDT June 29, 2011



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ORLANDO, Fla. -- Orange County Chief Judge Belvin Perry is expected to make several key decisions in the Casey Anthony murder trial Wednesday.

 

Anthony’s defense team recently filed another motion for mistrial. Anthony’s death penalty counsel, Ann Finnell, cited a decision by a federal court in the southern district of the state as grounds for a new trial.

 

Last week, Judge Jose Martinez declared the death penalty unconstitutional, saying that Florida’s statute conflicts with the Sixth Amendment.

 

In Florida, a jury makes a death penalty recommendation, but the judge makes the final decision. Florida's death penalty statute contrasts with most of the United States, where a unanimous decision by the jury decides the penalty.

 

READ: Could Court Decision Affect Fla. Death Penalty?

 

Former Anthony defense attorney Andrea Lyon appeared on NBC’s “Today” Tuesday morning and said motion was important to the defense for appeal purposes.

 

The judge will also decide whether the jury will hear testimony by Anthony’s former boyfriend, Jesse Grund.

 

 
 

 

Big Decisions Expected

 

Grund, outside the jury’s presence, said Tuesday in court that Anthony told him she did not want her daughter to be alone around her brother, Lee. Grund said Anthony was concerned because she said her brother groped her while he thought she was sleeping.

 

The state called Grund’s testimony hearsay and said it should not be admissible in court.

 

Perry is also expected to decide whether the defense can bring in testimony by a grief expert. The state also objected to that testimony because, they said, she was not deposed by prosecutors.



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