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I'm just watching CSI (the first time) and two officers have found a body with no ID.

 

One of the officers pulls out the mobile phone, but finds its' locked, so swipes it on the thumb of the victim which opens up the mobile phone, which they then use to identify the victim.

 

The officers have just forensically compromised the investigation. Best practice is to isolate the mobile form any form of communication and get it back to a lab to examine. There are very few circumstances when you would use the phone at the scene.

 

Let's hope that they don't need the mobile in court as evidence. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

oh noooo CSI axed.. I've followed it since the beginning

 

Mind you Nick needed to go cos his chipmunk over worked out and steroidy/protein supplemented neck and face was no longer fitting in the screen

 

ps EC.. it's pretend not real, it uses literary licence a lot 

 

...and here's me thinking it's a documentary. 

 

 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:

I enjoy it,of course it's not like the real thing.Blondes with no forensic coveralls on etc,slinky tops and high heels.

 

Don't forget that they always seem to work in poorly lit conditions. 

That's so you can see things more clearer in torchlight

*I is talking through the top of me hat, methinks* 

Moonie
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by kattymieoww:

I enjoy it,of course it's not like the real thing.Blondes with no forensic coveralls on etc,slinky tops and high heels.

 

Don't forget that they always seem to work in poorly lit conditions. 

Oh yes they must go through thousands of torches!

kattymieoww
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

oh noooo CSI axed.. I've followed it since the beginning

 

Mind you Nick needed to go cos his chipmunk over worked out and steroidy/protein supplemented neck and face was no longer fitting in the screen

 

ps EC.. it's pretend not real, it uses literary licence a lot 

 

...and here's me thinking it's a documentary. 

 

 

Hahaha

Extremely Fluffy Fluffy Thing
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

oh noooo CSI axed.. I've followed it since the beginning

 

Mind you Nick needed to go cos his chipmunk over worked out and steroidy/protein supplemented neck and face was no longer fitting in the screen

 

ps EC.. it's pretend not real, it uses literary licence a lot 

 

...and here's me thinking it's a documentary. 

 

 

Surely not

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

oh noooo CSI axed.. I've followed it since the beginning

 

Mind you Nick needed to go cos his chipmunk over worked out and steroidy/protein supplemented neck and face was no longer fitting in the screen

 

ps EC.. it's pretend not real, it uses literary licence a lot 

 

...and here's me thinking it's a documentary. 

 

 

the problem is that a lot of people take it seriously, and it's had an adverse effect on many real life cases as a result:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSI_effect

 

I have a big problem with CSI and similar shows for the way they misrepresent the science and reality of crime investigations. I've heard from real forensic scientists who are frustrated by constantly having to explain to juries why (for example) it takes so long to get DNA results back ("But we know from TV that you can get them immediately!"   ).

 

I think Charlie Brooker summed it up best when he pointed out that CSI and similar, supposedly "realistic", TV shows often rely on technology and techniques so advanced that they're effectively science fiction...

 

 

Eugene's Lair
Last edited by Eugene's Lair
Originally Posted by Eugene's Lair:
Originally Posted by Enthusiastic Contrafibularities:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

oh noooo CSI axed.. I've followed it since the beginning

 

Mind you Nick needed to go cos his chipmunk over worked out and steroidy/protein supplemented neck and face was no longer fitting in the screen

 

ps EC.. it's pretend not real, it uses literary licence a lot 

 

...and here's me thinking it's a documentary. 

 

 

the problem is that a lot of people take it seriously, and it's had an adverse effect on many real life cases as a result:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSI_effect

 

I have a big problem with CSI and similar shows for the way they misrepresent the science and reality of crime investigations. I've heard from real forensic scientists who are frustrated by constantly having to explain to juries why (for example) it takes so long to get DNA results back ("But we know from TV that you can get them immediately!"   ).

 

I think Charlie Brooker summed it up best when he pointed out that CSI and similar, supposedly "realistic", TV shows often rely on technology and techniques so advanced that they're effectively science fiction...

 

 Yes, good post.

 

And you can add to your list of real forensic examiners who can be at best mildly irritated and at worst annoyed by the unrealistic portrayal of police/forensic work.

 

Example: EC I have a video still from a CCTV camera of a suspect and their car, can you please blow up the picture so I can see the number plate and the suspect's face?

 

The response: Yes, if you give me the technology found in Minority Report, other than that you will get 12 graphical blocks on screen varying in shade from black to white!

 

You then get a blank look as they want to say, but don't "I've seen it on TV where you can blow up pictures...".

 

  

 

 

Enthusiastic Contrafibularities

AI technology can roughly work out possible results for fuzzy letters and pictures tho. .not precise but the technology is there. . altho if no letters are visible it is down to the quality of the video having a high pixel count on whether anything can be recovered. I did a module on that for part of my degree, had to, write, design and test a number of programs to read landsat images to determine what type of land was in the image [forest/swamp etc].. then had to test the accuracy of the programs and report the figures and adjust/rewrite programs to be more accurate. .all using AI programming languages. .that was over 10 yrs ago now..

 

I get what you mean about over expectations on results.. Altho I recall the original star trek I think had them walking around with something resembling an I pad long before we all had the interweb in our homes and touch screens too  

 

Also technology does catch up a lot of the time... You can get an HIV result on your blood within minutes. .used to be months.. some guy on midweek telly was talking about that last week...

 

I've also seen them interviewing writers to ask where they get their stuff from and most use beta or potential beta testing/design ideas. . but as you say the time factor is a problem for a lot of things..  I watch a lot of law type programmes and I know the cases can take a year or more to actually get to court, not as fast as is portrayed in dramas..

 

it's a question of educating the GBP that what they are seeing is fiction based on potential truth not real life. .a lot of people don't understand that part, maybe they watch too many reality TV shows 

Mount Olympus *Olly*
Last edited by Mount Olympus *Olly*
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

oh noooo CSI axed.. I've followed it since the beginning

 

Mind you Nick needed to go cos his chipmunk over worked out and steroidy/protein supplemented neck and face was no longer fitting in the screen

 

ps EC.. it's pretend not real, it uses literary licence a lot 

  

 

I stopped watching pretty much when Grissom left.

Cinds
Originally Posted by Cinds:
Originally Posted by Mount Olympus *Olly*:

oh noooo CSI axed.. I've followed it since the beginning

 

Mind you Nick needed to go cos his chipmunk over worked out and steroidy/protein supplemented neck and face was no longer fitting in the screen

 

ps EC.. it's pretend not real, it uses literary licence a lot 

  

 

I stopped watching pretty much when Grissom left.

Grissom is back for the final 2 hour episode.

 

El Loro

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