@Dame_Ann_Average posted:loud music would drive me crazy too...not that I would murder someone over it
would really annoy me as well
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yayyyyyy y brilliant thank you dameeee bazzyy
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:she sounds very weird
I think it was the drink, Ros
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:I think it was the drink, Ros
Yep , alcoholic
@Baz posted:Yep , alcoholic
@Baz posted:I wonder why he wasnât living at home
yes, that was my first thought. He was 16 and by his mums own admission he struggled on his own 
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:yes, that was my first thought. He was 16 and by his mums own admission he struggled on his own
Exactly
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:I think it was the drink, Ros
@Baz posted:Yep , alcoholic
yes -it certainly made her vulnerable
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes -it certainly made her vulnerable
most definitely Ros
@Baz posted:Exactly
Puzzling Baz !
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:yes, that was my first thought. He was 16 and by his mums own admission he struggled on his own
that is unusual must admit -some in foster care are put in supported living at 17
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes -it certainly made her vulnerable
Yes âĶ.and probably contributed to the noise problems
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:that is unusual must admit -some in foster care are put in supported living at 17
More questions than answers Ros, his mum said he was no bother...next breath he used to fight with his twin sister
@Baz posted:Yes âĶ.and probably contributed to the noise problems
yes and it looks as though those around her turned a blind eye
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:Puzzling Baz !
Yes , you never really get the whole story âĶ.having said that , my granddaughter was living alone at 16 because of things at home âĶ..
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:More questions than answers Ros, his mum said he was no bother...next breath he used to fight with his twin sister
I know
inadequate parenting
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes and it looks as though those around her turned a blind eye
Yes
@Baz posted:Yes , you never really get the whole story âĶ.having said that , my granddaughter was living alone at 16 because of things at home âĶ..
yes 
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:I know
I can't weigh his mum up
she looks old-probably the drink
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:I can't weigh his mum up
No, there is something a bit off
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:she looks old-probably the drink
Yes
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:I can't weigh his mum up
nor me dameee
@Baz posted:No, there is something a bit off
yes, she knows he did an incredible awful thing, and I'm sure she does feel sympathy for the woman's family...but 
@Baz posted:At least she got him to tell the police
yes -it seemed a good relationship on one level and dysfunctional on the other
@Baz posted:Iâm not keen on the daughter âĶ..
I don't mind the daughter, she said drink had ruled their young lives...I can see why she would have problems
@Baz posted:Bliddy knocking on his door at 1 am !
he should have ignored her
@Baz posted:At least she got him to tell the police
yes
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes -it seemed a good relationship on one level and dysfunctional on the other
Yes
@Baz posted:Iâm guessing she wound him up âĶ..not that thereâs any excuse for what he did
yes on both counts
@Dame_Ann_Average posted:I don't mind the daughter, she said drink had ruled their young lives...I can see why she would have problems
yes
@Rocking Ros Rose posted:yes -it seemed a good relationship on one level and dysfunctional on the other
@Baz posted:Iâm guessing she wound him up âĶ..not that thereâs any excuse for what he did
agree bazzy - tbh she prob did make advances with drink -she sounds a night mare