Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

I always fancied going to Israel ....many moons ago....but way to dodgy these days 

 a friend of mine went a couple of years ago...what he told me was heartbreaking  They cut the electricity off and some days only allowed 4 hours, they use water to irrigate their farmlands out of the Sea of Galilee and by the time the Jordan gets to the border it's a trickle 

was that outside of a tourist area dammeee

Baz posted:

Oh I see ....yes , I wouldn’t venture into Palestine ...

they would welcome the west visiting to get the truth out...although apart from bombed buildings and baron land there's nothing to see 

omg -looks so creepy

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

was that outside of a tourist area dammeee

yes, he was working Ros 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

With a name like Levison Wood I wonder if he’s Jewish ?

well, I can always try and find out  

...well you’re out of luck...cos I just checked and he comes from not 10 miles from  me. 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

was that outside of a tourist area dammeee

 

yes, he was working Ros 

grrrrrrrrrrrrr ak47 against stones and rocks 

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

With a name like Levison Wood I wonder if he’s Jewish ?

well, I can always try and find out  

...well you’re out of luck...cos I just checked and he comes from not 10 miles from  me. 

wow

Baz posted:

...well you’re out of luck...cos I just checked and he comes from not 10 miles from  me. 

bugger....you leave him alone  I was ready to get him to drop his undies 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

 

grrrrrrrrrrrrr ak47 against stones and rocks 

But they kill on both sides Dame ....

saw a documentary that said this area is so complex and interwoven that nobody will ever solve it 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

...well you’re out of luck...cos I just checked and he comes from not 10 miles from  me. 

 

bugger....you leave him alone  I was ready to get him to drop his undies 

He’s 37 ....i think we are punching above our weight 

That tent looks well dodgy 

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

 

grrrrrrrrrrrrr ak47 against stones and rocks 

But they kill on both sides Dame ....

yes its very complex to me

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

...well you’re out of luck...cos I just checked and he comes from not 10 miles from  me. 

 

bugger....you leave him alone  I was ready to get him to drop his undies 

He’s 37 ....i think we are punching above our weight 

Baz posted:

But they kill on both sides Dame ....

of course....google Palestine in 1948 and google it now, they are prisoners held on a ten mile stretch of land. The Israel army have much more fire power than the Palestinians .. when you kick a dog it tends to bite back although they have no chance 

aww fancy being in Bethlehem at Christmas - what an experience

Baz posted:

He’s 37 ....i think we are punching above our weight 

he may like the mature woman..... 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

But they kill on both sides Dame ....

of course....google Palestine in 1948 and google it now, they are prisoners held on a ten mile stretch of land. The Israel army have much more fire power than the Palestinians .. when you kick a dog it tends to bite back although they have no chance 

We have to agree to disagree ....I think it’s much more complicated than either you or I can understand ....I can see both sides 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

But they kill on both sides Dame ....

of course....google Palestine in 1948 and google it now, they are prisoners held on a ten mile stretch of land. The Israel army have much more fire power than the Palestinians .. when you kick a dog it tends to bite back although they have no chance 

think its history is even older than that - division of land after WW1 after the fall of the Ottoman Empire - the land wasn't divided fairly

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

aww fancy being in Bethlehem at Christmas - what an experience

Me too Ros 

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

But they kill on both sides Dame ....

of course....google Palestine in 1948 and google it now, they are prisoners held on a ten mile stretch of land. The Israel army have much more fire power than the Palestinians .. when you kick a dog it tends to bite back although they have no chance 

think its history is even older than that - division of land after WW1 after the fall of the Ottoman Empire - the land wasn't divided fairly

I am so pleased he's an independent journalist otherwise we wouldn't have seen the difference. 

Baz posted:

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

aww fancy being in Bethlehem at Christmas - what an experience

Me too Ros 

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

think its history is even older than that - division of land after WW1 after the fall of the Ottoman Empire - the land wasn't divided fairly

the recent problems started in 1948 when they  gave the Jewish escapees a piece of land, I am certainly not knocking that and they needed a safe haven and after all escaped a maniac   I can certainly see why they are aggrieved 

I think Levison is gonna end up with Dennis Healy eyebrows 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

 

I think Levison is gonna end up with Dennis Healy eyebrows 

some beautiful buildings

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

think its history is even older than that - division of land after WW1 after the fall of the Ottoman Empire - the land wasn't divided fairly

the recent problems started in 1948 when they  gave the Jewish escapees a piece of land, I am certainly not knocking that and they needed a safe haven and after all escaped a maniac   I can certainly see why they are aggrieved 

 

Yes , but I believe  it was the rise of hard line Palestinian nationalism in the 1920s that started the ball rolling ...

wow the training they do - beyond our comprehension really and we think life is bad here

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

wow the training they do - beyond our comprehension really and we think life is bad here

Yes....it must be awful to have to live with such tension , whichever side of the fence you live on 

Baz posted:

Rocking Ros Rose posted:

wow the training they do - beyond our comprehension really and we think life is bad here

Yes....it must be awful to have to live with such tension , whichever side of the fence you live on 

yes must be terrible

Baz posted:

Yes , but I believe  it was the rise of hard line Palestinian nationalism in the 1920s that started the ball rolling ...

I'm a great believer in dialogue it will never happen while the current Israeli government is in power. there no right or wrong, but you cannot imprison people on a stretch of their own land, burn their olive groves and steal their homes and expect them not to try and fight back ..which in my opinion is futile, eventually I fear for their very existence 

It seems an intractable problem 

Baz posted:

It seems an intractable problem 

very much so -its so complex who can actually unravel it and bring peace and tolerance

That was interesting ....thanks for the company , and night night , sleep well Dame and Ros 

wow that was fascinating would like a series on this -night dammee bazzy

that was interesting and the presenter very eye catching  sweet dreams Baz and bestie Rosssssssssssssssssss, see you Saturday  ....

oops forgot I was i the crib

night dameeeeee very bestie bazzy

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

that was interesting and the presenter very eye catching  sweet dreams Baz and bestie Rosssssssssssssssssss, see you Saturday  ....

  yes was brilliant - hope work goes ok dameeeee