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Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Baz posted:

I doubt there were many women in  60s and 70s that didn’t have it ....you just dealt with it 

 

on a daily basis Baz, you dealt with it  The sexual assaults though have to be looked into 

yes -had boobs grabbed bum felt etc and yes you did get on with it

Rocking Ros Rose
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Baz posted:

I doubt there were many women in  60s and 70s that didn’t have it ....you just dealt with it 

 

on a daily basis Baz, you dealt with it  The sexual assaults though have to be looked into 

Yes, a serious sexual assault is a whole different thing ...they need jumping on from a great height .....

Baz
Baz posted:
Sprout posted:
Baz posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Baz posted:

Yes, but why pull the programme ....

if he's guilty they won't want to give him air time ... I honestly think in most cases they are probably telling the truth, the thing I don;t like is suggestive comments and stuff...that's not sexual harassment if you tell them to feck off which most of us have done. 

Exactly ....and if they still don’t get the message a quick kick in the goolies usually does the trick 

Seriously Baz, it doesn't though. 

Why....have you tried it ....always worked for me 

I was too shy 

Rocking Ros Rose
Baz posted:

Way to go  Yep , leaning over your shoulder or brushing up against you ....I found a judicious elbow usually sorted it out 

 

 

I one reported a manager for sexual harassment and the director tried to snog me...go figure  you dealt with it, although if you can't handle men and they overstep the mark with the touching and sexual assault...they should answer in court. 

Dame_Ann_Average
Rocking Ros posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:

evening bestie Rosssssssssssssss, hope you are well  

i'm fine thanks dammeeebliddy cold though -freezing here

 

 

won't be long until we have two days of spring that will count for our summer  

Dame_Ann_Average
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Baz posted:

Way to go  Yep , leaning over your shoulder or brushing up against you ....I found a judicious elbow usually sorted it out 

 

 

I one reported a manager for sexual harassment and the director tried to snog me...go figure  you dealt with it, although if you can't handle men and they overstep the mark with the touching and sexual assault...they should answer in court. 

Baz
Sprout posted:

No, you're right, but don't forget, I have access to what they've done, and how they conduct themselves after that offence 

that is completely different Pam...you are talking about offenders, we are talking about people that haven't ever been charged with anything and should be innocent until proven guilty. 

Dame_Ann_Average
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Rocking Ros posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:

evening bestie Rosssssssssssssss, hope you are well  

i'm fine thanks dammeeebliddy cold though -freezing here

 

 

won't be long until we have two days of spring that will count for our summer  

Rocking Ros Rose
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Baz posted:

Way to go  Yep , leaning over your shoulder or brushing up against you ....I found a judicious elbow usually sorted it out 

 

 

I one reported a manager for sexual harassment and the director tried to snog me...go figure  you dealt with it, although if you can't handle men and they overstep the mark with the touching and sexual assault...they should answer in court. 

I fully agree with you, but please, take it from me, this isn't just a workplace offence 

I obviously can't open up on stuff, but if you could see the offences of  people that come through our doors.....

Sprout
Sprout posted:

As I said......it's not just a workplace thing    Although I can sympathise with those of you who have gone through it  

 

we know that Pam... I can give you a clatter load of names that were sexual assaulted as children, it was not uncommon 

Dame_Ann_Average
Sprout posted:

I fully agree with you, but please, take it from me, this isn't just a workplace offence 

I obviously can't open up on stuff, but if you could see the offences of  people that come through our doors.....

 

see my reply ^^^^^ 

Dame_Ann_Average
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sprout posted:

No, you're right, but don't forget, I have access to what they've done, and how they conduct themselves after that offence 

that is completely different Pam...you are talking about offenders, we are talking about people that haven't ever been charged with anything and should be innocent until proven guilty. 

Down to the CPS then isn't it    The system is all wrong  

Sprout
Sprout posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sprout posted:

No, you're right, but don't forget, I have access to what they've done, and how they conduct themselves after that offence 

that is completely different Pam...you are talking about offenders, we are talking about people that haven't ever been charged with anything and should be innocent until proven guilty. 

Down to the CPS then isn't it    The system is all wrong  

They need evidence though ....can’t prosecute on hearsay 

Baz
Sprout posted:

Down to the CPS then isn't it    The system is all wrong  

why, if it's been reported as their first offence how can the CPS act and like I say I know two that's been set up 

Dame_Ann_Average
Baz posted:
Sprout posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sprout posted:

No, you're right, but don't forget, I have access to what they've done, and how they conduct themselves after that offence 

that is completely different Pam...you are talking about offenders, we are talking about people that haven't ever been charged with anything and should be innocent until proven guilty. 

Down to the CPS then isn't it    The system is all wrong  

They need evidence though ....can’t prosecute on hearsay 

yes irrefutable evidence as well

Rocking Ros Rose
Rocking Ros posted:
Baz posted:
Sprout posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sprout posted:

No, you're right, but don't forget, I have access to what they've done, and how they conduct themselves after that offence 

that is completely different Pam...you are talking about offenders, we are talking about people that haven't ever been charged with anything and should be innocent until proven guilty. 

Down to the CPS then isn't it    The system is all wrong  

They need evidence though ....can’t prosecute on hearsay 

yes irrefutable evidence as well

Baz
Baz posted:
Sprout posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sprout posted:

No, you're right, but don't forget, I have access to what they've done, and how they conduct themselves after that offence 

that is completely different Pam...you are talking about offenders, we are talking about people that haven't ever been charged with anything and should be innocent until proven guilty. 

Down to the CPS then isn't it    The system is all wrong  

They need evidence though ....can’t prosecute on hearsay 

Take it for what it is, I say.....too many people getting off from offences that they should be convicted of 

Sprout
Sprout posted:
Baz posted:
Sprout posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sprout posted:

No, you're right, but don't forget, I have access to what they've done, and how they conduct themselves after that offence 

that is completely different Pam...you are talking about offenders, we are talking about people that haven't ever been charged with anything and should be innocent until proven guilty. 

Down to the CPS then isn't it    The system is all wrong  

They need evidence though ....can’t prosecute on hearsay 

Take it for what it is, I say.....too many people getting off from offences that they should be convicted of 

So without evidence , who decides who is guilty ....you , me , .....very dangerous premise Imo 

Baz
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Rocking Ros posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:

 

I'm watching sex robots 

Baz posted:
Dame_Ann_Average posted:

 

I'm watching sex robots 

 

now I am on Amazon 

Not looking for a sex robot I hope! 

Sprout
Sprout posted:

Take it for what it is, I say.....too many people getting off from offences that they should be convicted of 

 

you cannot jail innocent people Pam, in a decent democracy everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Christ almighty, how many people have sat in jail, been hung and have been innocent 

Dame_Ann_Average
Baz posted:
Sprout posted:

Take it for what it is, I say.....too many people getting off from offences that they should be convicted of 

So without evidence , who decides who is guilty ....you , me , .....very dangerous premise Imo 

CPS job,    Offender does the crime......... 

Sprout
Baz posted:

So without evidence , who decides who is guilty ....you , me , .....very dangerous premise Imo 

 

exactly, you can't imprison someone on someone's say so....thousands would be jailed for nothing. 

Dame_Ann_Average
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Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sprout posted:

Take it for what it is, I say.....too many people getting off from offences that they should be convicted of 

 

you cannot jail innocent people Pam, in a decent democracy everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Christ almighty, how many people have sat in jail, been hung and have been innocent 

Baz
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sprout posted:

Take it for what it is, I say.....too many people getting off from offences that they should be convicted of 

 

you cannot jail innocent people Pam, in a decent democracy everyone is entitled to a fair trial. Christ almighty, how many people have sat in jail, been hung and have been innocent 

Oh Damsey....please don't get me going on this  

Sprout
Sprout posted:
Baz posted:
Sprout posted:

Take it for what it is, I say.....too many people getting off from offences that they should be convicted of 

So without evidence , who decides who is guilty ....you , me , .....very dangerous premise Imo 

CPS job,    Offender does the crime......... 

Cps don’t decide who is guilty ....there job is to work out if there is enough concrete evidence to prosecute .....then it’s up to a jury to decide ....

Baz
Sprout posted:

CPS job,    Offender does the crime......... 

but you are saying everyone should go to jail on being accused  I am totally confused as to where you are coming form tonight 

Dame_Ann_Average
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Baz posted:
Sprout posted:
Baz posted:
Sprout posted:

Take it for what it is, I say.....too many people getting off from offences that they should be convicted of 

So without evidence , who decides who is guilty ....you , me , .....very dangerous premise Imo 

CPS job,    Offender does the crime......... 

Cps don’t decide who is guilty ....there job is to work out if there is enough concrete evidence to prosecute .....then it’s up to a jury to decide ....

yes

Rocking Ros Rose

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