Sprout posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Sprout posted:
these are early reports Pam
It's bad enough that anything's happened though.....
Yes
Sprout posted:Baz posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:Don't know if it's terrorist related or not
me either..but if it is you know my thoughts on it, get the hell out of the middle east and stop interfering.
It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
Murders because 'we' rode in and destroyed it all
Murders because they are murders ! No excuse ....
Baz posted:It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
that's true Baz, but it doesn't help us bombing their relatives children. I abhor all terrorist attacks, but we are making them hate us more There is no excuse for this none whatsoever it's evil in anyone's book, but seriously we need to stop interfering.
Sky news now reporting a stabbing too
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
that's true Baz, but it doesn't help us bombing their relatives children. I abhor all terrorist attacks, but we are making them hate us more
Dame_Ann_Average posted:
Sky news now reporting a stabbing too
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
that's true Baz, but it doesn't help us bombing their relatives children. I abhor all terrorist attacks, but we are making them hate us more
I agree it escalates situations
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
that's true Baz, but it doesn't help us bombing their relatives children. I abhor all terrorist attacks, but we are making them hate us more
I'm all for not intervening ....but in some instances ....like Bosnia it was needed ...in Iraq it wasn't .....trouble is its a very, very fine line between right and wrong .....sometimes peace in our time doesn't work
I'd be running quicker than this lot....terrifying
Sprout posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
that's true Baz, but it doesn't help us bombing their relatives children. I abhor all terrorist attacks, but we are making them hate us more
Non interference didn't help Belgium , or Sweden ....these murders want to wipe western values off the face of the earth ....
Baz posted:I'm all for not intervening ....but in some instances ....like Bosnia it was needed ...in Iraq it wasn't .....trouble is its a very, very fine line between right and wrong .....sometimes peace in our time doesn't work
I agree with Bosnia, I don't agree with the middle east because it's all about power, greed and oil. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria we have made these countries unstable whether we hate their dictator leaders or not at least they had control.
Baz posted:Sprout posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
that's true Baz, but it doesn't help us bombing their relatives children. I abhor all terrorist attacks, but we are making them hate us more
Non interference didn't help Belgium , or Sweden ....these murders want to wipe western values off the face of the earth ....
agree it is very complex and will we ever unravel it and find a solution
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:I'm all for not intervening ....but in some instances ....like Bosnia it was needed ...in Iraq it wasn't .....trouble is its a very, very fine line between right and wrong .....sometimes peace in our time doesn't work
I agree with Bosnia, I don't agree with the middle east because it's all about power, greed and oil. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria we have made these countries unstable whether we hate their dictator leaders or not at least they had control.
Oh I totally agree about that .....personally I'd pull up the drawbridge 
Baz posted:Non interference didn't help Belgium , or Sweden ....these murders want to wipe western values off the face of the earth ....
Sweden sells arms to Saudi, I'm not sure about Belgium...and we sure do, we are arming them.
Baz posted:It's truly horrific , but let's hope it's just a traffic accident ...drunk driver or something
yes
Rocking Ros posted:Baz posted:Sprout posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
that's true Baz, but it doesn't help us bombing their relatives children. I abhor all terrorist attacks, but we are making them hate us more
Non interference didn't help Belgium , or Sweden ....these murders want to wipe western values off the face of the earth ....
agree it is very complex and will we ever unravel it and find a solution
History tells us no ....there have been wars since recorded time ...no one has managed to stop them yet
Baz posted:Oh I totally agree about that .....personally I'd pull up the drawbridge
how can you do that, the guy at Manchester was British born and bred. He was allowed to go and fight in Libya when Theresa May relaxed the border rules. 
She was Home Secratary at the time border control was relaxed.
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:I'm all for not intervening ....but in some instances ....like Bosnia it was needed ...in Iraq it wasn't .....trouble is its a very, very fine line between right and wrong .....sometimes peace in our time doesn't work
I agree with Bosnia, I don't agree with the middle east because it's all about power, greed and oil. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria we have made these countries unstable whether we hate their dictator leaders or not at least they had control.
And Arms
Baz posted:Rocking Ros posted:Baz posted:Sprout posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It won't stop them Dame ....although it does give them an * excuse * ......they are simply murders
that's true Baz, but it doesn't help us bombing their relatives children. I abhor all terrorist attacks, but we are making them hate us more
Non interference didn't help Belgium , or Sweden ....these murders want to wipe western values off the face of the earth ....
agree it is very complex and will we ever unravel it and find a solution
History tells us no ....there have been wars since recorded time ...no one has managed to stop them yet
Baz posted:It's truly horrific , but let's hope it's just a traffic accident ...drunk driver or something
I doubt it Baz...a stabbing too as far as I can make out
Rocking Ros posted:Baz posted:It's truly horrific , but let's hope it's just a traffic accident ...drunk driver or something
yes
I doubt it Wozzer, in this day and age
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It's truly horrific , but let's hope it's just a traffic accident ...drunk driver or something
I doubt it Baz...a stabbing too as far as I can make out
people out on a Saturday night....just awful 
Sprout posted:Rocking Ros posted:Baz posted:It's truly horrific , but let's hope it's just a traffic accident ...drunk driver or something
yes
I doubt it Wozzer, in this day and age
I know
Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:Oh I totally agree about that .....personally I'd pull up the drawbridge
how can you do that, the guy at Manchester was British born and bred. He was allowed to go and fight in Libya when Theresa May relaxed the border rules.
I don't want to get into the political blame game Dame ....so I will just reiterate that they are murders , with NO excuse for their actions and I refuse to give them any legitimacy 
Baz posted:I don't want to get into the political blame game Dame ....so I will just reiterate that they are murders , with NO excuse for their actions and I refuse to give them any legitimacy
I'm certainly not excusing them Baz 
not looking good - defo seems terrorist related to me
Baz posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:It's truly horrific , but let's hope it's just a traffic accident ...drunk driver or something
I doubt it Baz...a stabbing too as far as I can make out
Nothing on BBC about any stabbing ...so far ....
no there isn't yet
think someone has been arrested
Baz posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:Oh I totally agree about that .....personally I'd pull up the drawbridge
how can you do that, the guy at Manchester was British born and bred. He was allowed to go and fight in Libya when Theresa May relaxed the border rules.
I don't want to get into the political blame game Dame ....so I will just reiterate that they are murders , with NO excuse for their actions and I refuse to give them any legitimacy
Depends who it was really
Rocking Ros posted:think someone has been arrested
Reports of someone being led away in handcuffs Wozzer
Baz posted:Nothing on BBC about any stabbing ...so far ....
I have sky on Baz...one guy saying gunshots
Baz posted:Someone now reporting gunfire
Baz posted:Someone now reporting gunfire
OMG not heard that
Sprout posted:Baz posted:Dame_Ann_Average posted:Baz posted:Oh I totally agree about that .....personally I'd pull up the drawbridge
how can you do that, the guy at Manchester was British born and bred. He was allowed to go and fight in Libya when Theresa May relaxed the border rules.
I don't want to get into the political blame game Dame ....so I will just reiterate that they are murders , with NO excuse for their actions and I refuse to give them any legitimacy
Depends who it was really
What earthly excuse could you make ....
drop him out the back of the police van at about 100mph 