Sprout posted:

Fireworks and ships 

feck me, we must be boring 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

The first two things are enough for me to detest them....and I'm ambivalent about whether they were involved , but wouldn't be surprised

I never debate it Baz, my gut feeling is they didn't do it and now the Nanny more or less confirmed what I always thought, but I could be totally wrong...like them, never 

the words she used initially and reaction not right  I feel 

I feel the same as bazzy  and have opinions but never debate it or judge

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

well you hope not but parts of what I have read to me holds a ? mark  over them and the conversation of the peeps they were with -  but they are guilty of negligence

oh yes, but they have to live with it and if they are innocent they will always have those nightmares 

I think they are far to self centred for nightmares 

hi sprooty

Rocking Ros posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

The first two things are enough for me to detest them....and I'm ambivalent about whether they were involved , but wouldn't be surprised

I never debate it Baz, my gut feeling is they didn't do it and now the Nanny more or less confirmed what I always thought, but I could be totally wrong...like them, never 

the words she used initially and reaction not right  I feel 

I feel the same as bazzy  and have opinions but never debate it or judge

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

well you hope not but parts of what I have read to me holds a ? mark  over them and the conversation of the peeps they were with -  but they are guilty of negligence

oh yes, but they have to live with it and if they are innocent they will always have those nightmares 

I think they are far to self centred for nightmares 

agree bazzy - cold fish comes to mind - I just don't like the way they behaved full stop

Rocking Ros posted:

the words she used initially and reaction not right  I feel 

I feel the same as bazzy  and have opinions but never debate it or judge

I think in shock people react differently Ros and some can look guilty because of their reaction...the Nanny said she was quite visibly in shock  The police were proven to be negligent, it's a very complicated case...but murder, I haven't bought it 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Fireworks and ships 

 

feck me, we must be boring 

No, but it was just something different    plus I have something on the TV too 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Fireworks and ships 

 

feck me, we must be boring 

Baz posted:

I think they are far to self centred for nightmares 

that I can agree with 100% 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

the words she used initially and reaction not right  I feel 

I feel the same as bazzy  and have opinions but never debate it or judge

 

I think in shock people react differently Ros and some can look guilty because of their reaction...the Nanny said she was quite visibly in shock  The police were proven to be negligent, it's a very complicated case...but murder, I haven't bought it 

agree complicated and agree not murder

Rocking Ros posted:

agree complicated and agree not murder

I dread to think what happened to her...it's heartbreaking 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

agree complicated and agree not murder

I dread to think what happened to her...it's heartbreaking 

yes  doesn't bear thinking about TBH 

Rocking Ros posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

the words she used initially and reaction not right  I feel 

I feel the same as bazzy  and have opinions but never debate it or judge

 

I think in shock people react differently Ros and some can look guilty because of their reaction...the Nanny said she was quite visibly in shock  The police were proven to be negligent, it's a very complicated case...but murder, I haven't bought it 

agree complicated and agree not murder

Probably not murder, but complicit in what happened to her? I dunno 

Rocking Ros posted:

yes  doesn't bear thinking about TBH 

Sprout posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

the words she used initially and reaction not right  I feel 

I feel the same as bazzy  and have opinions but never debate it or judge

 

I think in shock people react differently Ros and some can look guilty because of their reaction...the Nanny said she was quite visibly in shock  The police were proven to be negligent, it's a very complicated case...but murder, I haven't bought it 

agree complicated and agree not murder

Probably not murder, but complicit in what happened to her? I dunno 

agree sprooty - hard call TBh and  can only hope they were not -

Sprout posted:

Probably not murder, but complicit in what happened to her? I dunno 

I think it was a stranger abduction, but knowing that she was left alone by idiotic supposedly responsible parents... 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

agree complicated and agree not murder

I dread to think what happened to her...it's heartbreaking 

Yes , and if it had been some poor lone  parent ...or from a different * class* ...they would have been prosecuted !!!

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

yes  doesn't bear thinking about TBH 

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

agree complicated and agree not murder

I dread to think what happened to her...it's heartbreaking 

Yes , and if it had been some poor lone  parent ...or from a different * class* ...they would have been prosecuted !!!

yep - so true

Rocking Ros posted:

Sprout posted:

Probably not murder, but complicit in what happened to her? I dunno 

agree sprooty - hard call TBh and  can only hope they were not -

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Probably not murder, but complicit in what happened to her? I dunno 

 

I think it was a stranger abduction, but knowing that she was left alone by idiotic supposedly responsible parents... 

Baz posted:

Yes , and if it had been some poor lone  parent ...or from a different * class* ...they would have been prosecuted !!!

yes and that pisses me off ..they were neglectful whichever you look at it! I've been abroad too many times with children and never left them alone for 5 minutes, they had a afternoon nap and came with us at night  

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Probably not murder, but complicit in what happened to her? I dunno 

 

I think it was a stranger abduction, but knowing that she was left alone by idiotic supposedly responsible parents... 

knowing they repeatedly left her alone  and could be timed and monitored - makes me shiver  but there is the other rumours attached -

so complicated and loads of high order detectives involved - will never be solved I don't think

Rocking Ros posted:

knowing they repeatedly left her alone  and could be timed and monitored - makes me shiver  but there is the other rumours attached -

so complicated and loads of high order detectives involved - will never be solved I don't think

I think you're right 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

Yes , and if it had been some poor lone  parent ...or from a different * class* ...they would have been prosecuted !!!

 

yes and that pisses me off ..they were neglectful whichever you look at it! I've been abroad too many times with children and never left them alone for 5 minutes, they had a afternoon nap and came with us at night  

Exactly .....I NEVER left my kids ....we used to take them out with us at night and just go back to the hotel etc when they got tired !!

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

Yes , and if it had been some poor lone  parent ...or from a different * class* ...they would have been prosecuted !!!

 

yes and that pisses me off ..they were neglectful whichever you look at it! I've been abroad too many times with children and never left them alone for 5 minutes, they had a afternoon nap and came with us at night  

same here  - would never, never have left him alone for a minute - especially to drink and eat  -  so selfish

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

Yes , and if it had been some poor lone  parent ...or from a different * class* ...they would have been prosecuted !!!

 

yes and that pisses me off ..they were neglectful whichever you look at it! I've been abroad too many times with children and never left them alone for 5 minutes, they had a afternoon nap and came with us at night  

Exactly .....I NEVER left my kids ....we used to take them out with us at night and just go back to the hotel etc when they got tired !!

same here

Baz posted:

Exactly .....I NEVER left my kids ....we used to take them out with us at night and just go back to the hotel etc when they got tired !!

and I was always with them when they had an afternoon nap 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rocking Ros posted:

knowing they repeatedly left her alone  and could be timed and monitored - makes me shiver  but there is the other rumours attached -

so complicated and loads of high order detectives involved - will never be solved I don't think

 

I think you're right 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

Exactly .....I NEVER left my kids ....we used to take them out with us at night and just go back to the hotel etc when they got tired !!

and I was always with them when they had an afternoon nap 

Yep  First holiday Mr B and I had on our own was when my daughter was 17 ...and even then it was on my for 4 days and a neighbour was keeping an eye on her 

Rocking Ros posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

Yes , and if it had been some poor lone  parent ...or from a different * class* ...they would have been prosecuted !!!

 

yes and that pisses me off ..they were neglectful whichever you look at it! I've been abroad too many times with children and never left them alone for 5 minutes, they had a afternoon nap and came with us at night  

same here  - would never, never have left him alone for a minute - especially to drink and eat  -  so selfish

Exactly Ros.  

We even took ours on honeymoon 

And on that note I'm going to say goodnight Sleep well and sweet dreams Dame , Ros and Sprout 

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

Exactly .....I NEVER left my kids ....we used to take them out with us at night and just go back to the hotel etc when they got tired !!

and I was always with them when they had an afternoon nap 

Yep  First holiday Mr B and I had on our own was when my daughter was 17 ...and even then it was on my for 4 days and a neighbour was keeping an eye on her 

son was 19

Baz posted:

Yep  First holiday Mr B and I had on our own was when my daughter was 17 ...and even then it was on my for 4 days and a neighbour was keeping an eye on her 

same here Baz...first holiday without our kids was Leanne at 17, but I had to take Katie...it was a bloody production line  I think I only had 3 holidays with Jackie on my own and it was enough 

night bazzyboots

Baz posted:

And on that note I'm going to say goodnight Sleep well and sweet dreams Dame , Ros and Sprout 

you did it again...I'm reading Diana Ross  sweet dreams Baz  

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

Yep  First holiday Mr B and I had on our own was when my daughter was 17 ...and even then it was on my for 4 days and a neighbour was keeping an eye on her 

same here Baz...first holiday without our kids was Leanne at 17, but I had to take Katie...it was a bloody production line  I think I only had 3 holidays with Jackie on my own and it was enough 

I'm off too Pam and very bestie Rossssssssssssssssssssss, sweet dreams