Rosgirl posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rosgirl posted:

 yes best bank holiday I can remember for a bit

it's the best May we've had in years to be fair Ros and looking good for next week too 

oooo brill hope so -hothothot

Keep it over there

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Cumbrians and sun....I've seen a million of these on my timeline today 

 same here

Sprout posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

We've got the opposite 

 

but you don't like it warm...forecast said north east would be cooler 

You're right

I'll move over your way then  

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Cumbrians and sun....I've seen a million of these on my timeline today 

Sprout posted:

Rosgirl posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rosgirl posted:

 yes best bank holiday I can remember for a bit

it's the best May we've had in years to be fair Ros and looking good for next week too 

oooo brill hope so -hothothot

Keep it over there

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

We've got the opposite 

 

but you don't like it warm...forecast said north east would be cooler 

You're right

I'll move over your way then  

Don't fib! 

Sprout posted:

Awwww, that Gorilla   

Zoo should be prosecuted 

eh...it was dragging a four year old boy about for ten minutes, I feel sorry for it and the boy should have been supervised but seriously the child was at risk Also there should be no possible route into these enclosures, so the zoo's should hold some responsibility too 

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

We've got the opposite 

 

but you don't like it warm...forecast said north east would be cooler 

You're right

I'll move over your way then  

Baz posted:

I'll move over your way then  

just the west side and Ros and I will be happy 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Awwww, that Gorilla   

Zoo should be prosecuted 

 

eh...it was dragging a four year old boy about for ten minutes, I feel sorry for it and the boy should have been supervised but seriously the child was at risk Also there should be no possible route into these enclosures, so the zoo's should hold some responsibility too 

Sprout posted:

Baz posted:

Sprout posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

We've got the opposite 

 

but you don't like it warm...forecast said north east would be cooler 

You're right

I'll move over your way then  

Don't fib! 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Awwww, that Gorilla   

Zoo should be prosecuted 

 

eh...it was dragging a four year old boy about for ten minutes, I feel sorry for it and the boy should have been supervised but seriously the child was at risk Also there should be no possible route into these enclosures, so the zoo's should hold some responsibility too 

   That's what I said 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Awwww, that Gorilla   

Zoo should be prosecuted 

 

eh...it was dragging a four year old boy about for ten minutes, I feel sorry for it and the boy should have been supervised but seriously the child was at risk Also there should be no possible route into these enclosures, so the zoo's should hold some responsibility too 

oooo didn't realise that just saw the feadline on FB about the gorilla - defo the Zoo's resposibility

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

I'll move over your way then  

 

just the west side and Ros and I will be happy 

very happy

Sprout posted:

   That's what I said 

but it's not only the zoo's fault, the parents are to blame too...and to be fair to the zoo, they are trying to breed endangered species 

Rosgirl posted:

very happy

Rosgirl posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Awwww, that Gorilla   

Zoo should be prosecuted 

 

eh...it was dragging a four year old boy about for ten minutes, I feel sorry for it and the boy should have been supervised but seriously the child was at risk Also there should be no possible route into these enclosures, so the zoo's should hold some responsibility too 

oooo didn't realise that just saw the feadline on FB about the gorilla - defo the Zoo's resposibility

Yep, you can't blame the rilla for doing what it did but given that we are all extended from apes and the like, would the rilla have been trying to protect the kid? 

Sprout posted:

Yep, you can't blame the rilla for doing what it did but given that we are all extended from apes and the like, would the rilla have been trying to protect the kid? 

it could have been, but would they dare take that risk? The boy had gone through some bushes and climbed a fence, the zoo's had a good safety record for 38 years as far as I'm aware...I think it should be just put down to a tragic event. the zoo certainly didn;t want to shoot the gorilla and if you're taking the zoo to court are you then going to charge the parents with negligence? 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Yep, you can't blame the rilla for doing what it did but given that we are all extended from apes and the like, would the rilla have been trying to protect the kid? 

 

it could have been, but would they dare take that risk? The boy had gone through some bushes and climbed a fence, the zoo's had a good safety record for 38 years as far as I'm aware...I think it should be just put down to a tragic event. the zoo certainly didn;t want to shoot the gorilla and if you're taking the zoo to court are you then going to charge the parents with negligence? 

Good point 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

   That's what I said 

but it's not only the zoo's fault, the parents are to blame too...and to be fair to the zoo, they are trying to breed endangered species 

agree some parents let their kids run wild these days but agree a tragic accident -fault on both sides -couldn't they have just stunned the gorilla?

Sprout posted:

Good point 

even though I feel really awful for the Gorilla  I'm sure he was just protecting the child, but even so his sheer strength protecting him could have caused serious damage 

I agree Dame .... 

Rosgirl posted:

agree some parents let their kids run wild these days but agree a tragic accident -fault on both sides -couldn't they have just stunned the gorilla?

it would have taken too long to work Ros...I think they took the quickest way to make safe the situation...sadly it ended the way it did 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

Good point 

even though I feel really awful for the Gorilla  I'm sure he was just protecting the child, but even so his sheer strength protecting him could have caused serious damage 

But when you look at apes/rillas and the like with their own?

Baz posted:

I agree Dame .... 

Sprout posted:

But when you look at apes/rillas and the like with their own?

and chimpanzees are cannibalistic..they are wild animals and unpredictable   

Rosgirl posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

   That's what I said 

but it's not only the zoo's fault, the parents are to blame too...and to be fair to the zoo, they are trying to breed endangered species 

agree some parents let their kids run wild these days but agree a tragic accident -fault on both sides -couldn't they have just stunned the gorilla?

I agree Ros ....some let their kids run a bit wild and  never seem to see danger 

Baz posted:

I agree Ros ....some let their kids run a bit wild and  never seem to see danger 

especially where there is an enclosure with wild animals...I would have mine in a wrist lock 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

I agree Ros ....some let their kids run a bit wild and  never seem to see danger 

especially where there is an enclosure with wild animals...I would have mine in a wrist lock 

Ditto Mind you I see danger everywhere  

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rosgirl posted:

agree some parents let their kids run wild these days but agree a tragic accident -fault on both sides -couldn't they have just stunned the gorilla?

 

it would have taken too long to work Ros...I think they took the quickest way to make safe the situation...sadly it ended the way it did 

agree dammee

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

I agree Ros ....some let their kids run a bit wild and  never seem to see danger 

especially where there is an enclosure with wild animals...I would have mine in a wrist lock 

Ditto Mind you I see danger everywhere  

same here on both counts -I am a right worryit

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

But when you look at apes/rillas and the like with their own?

 

and chimpanzees are cannibalistic..they are wild animals and unpredictable   

I see your point, but this was a gorilla.  I think they have a more nurturing temperament, and having said that, we can't really predict what they're gonna do I guess.  Maybe it was the best outcome under the circs, even though it's awful 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

I agree Ros ....some let their kids run a bit wild and  never seem to see danger 

especially where there is an enclosure with wild animals...I would have mine in a wrist lock 

defo

Rosgirl posted:

Baz posted:

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

I agree Ros ....some let their kids run a bit wild and  never seem to see danger 

especially where there is an enclosure with wild animals...I would have mine in a wrist lock 

Ditto Mind you I see danger everywhere  

same here on both counts -I am a right worryit

Me too Ros  

Baz posted:

Ditto Mind you I see danger everywhere  

and me, the boys are not allowed chewing gum, gobstoppers or those stupid lollies on a stick here and I always half grapes  Lynds says I'm OCD with health and safety  

Sprout posted:

I see your point, but this was a gorilla.  I think they have a more nurturing temperament, and having said that, we can't really predict what they're gonna do I guess.  Maybe it was the best outcome under the circs, even though it's awful 

Pam, this wasn't an easy decision, the child's safety was first and foremost. We're all sad it ended the way it did, I believe the zoo and no other option and made the right call to be honest. 

Rosgirl posted:

same here on both counts -I am a right worryit

sometimes I'm out and look at parents and I'm like wtf 

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Sprout posted:

I see your point, but this was a gorilla.  I think they have a more nurturing temperament, and having said that, we can't really predict what they're gonna do I guess.  Maybe it was the best outcome under the circs, even though it's awful 

Pam, this wasn't an easy decision, the child's safety was first and foremost. We're all sad it ended the way it did, I believe the zoo and no other option and made the right call to be honest. 

agree - the child's safety came first IMO

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Baz posted:

Ditto Mind you I see danger everywhere  

and me, the boys are not allowed chewing gum, gobstoppers or those stupid lollies on a stick here and I always half grapes  Lynds says I'm OCD with health and safety  

I'm exactly the same ....except for the grapes  

Dame_Ann_Average posted:

Rosgirl posted:

same here on both counts -I am a right worryit

sometimes I'm out and look at parents and I'm like wtf 

and me dammee -some are unbelievable