Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
tin mining 
I know
How the other half live
Originally Posted by Sprout:
By looking at this, I spose Apple are doing what they can. It's the outsources...
no they're not...they make billions...they could have one small team in every supplier and would still be peanuts to them 
that's all it would take from every firm!
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
I just text Steve from work....he's got a 6. He says he's not watching. read about it and thinks....he's not bothered who builds it as long as it works 
I told him, it's wrong though and prolly the same with my Sammy
it's probably most of them Pam...but our greed for hi tech encourages firms to turn a blind eye
It's not just the high tech firms ....it's the clothes you have on your back , and probably a lot of the things we use every day ...we want cheap ,or low cost goods and thats how we get them......so the world turns a blind eye
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
tin mining
I know
coral reef damage...and they know 
. No wonder this planet is on it's knees...I fear for my grandchildren
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
I just text Steve from work....he's got a 6. He says he's not watching. read about it and thinks....he's not bothered who builds it as long as it works
I told him, it's wrong though and prolly the same with my Sammy
it's probably most of them Pam...but our greed for hi tech encourages firms to turn a blind eye
It's not just the high tech firms ....it's the clothes you have on your back , and probably a lot of the things we use every day ...we want cheap ,or low cost goods and thats how we get them......so the world turns a blind eye
The building collapse in India showed that
Originally Posted by Baz:
It's not just the high tech firms ....it's the clothes you have on your back , and probably a lot of the things we use every day ...we want cheap ,or low cost goods and thats how we get them......so the world turns a blind eye
I agree Baz, but we shouldn't...
I would not work under that pile that's about to drop 
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Baz:
It's not just the high tech firms ....it's the clothes you have on your back , and probably a lot of the things we use every day ...we want cheap ,or low cost goods and thats how we get them......so the world turns a blind eye
I agree Baz, but we shouldn't...
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
I just text Steve from work....he's got a 6. He says he's not watching. read about it and thinks....he's not bothered who builds it as long as it works
I told him, it's wrong though and prolly the same with my Sammy
it's probably most of them Pam...but our greed for hi tech encourages firms to turn a blind eye
It's not just the high tech firms ....it's the clothes you have on your back , and probably a lot of the things we use every day ...we want cheap ,or low cost goods and thats how we get them......so the world turns a blind eye
The building collapse in India showed that
No, I agree , we shouldn't .....but the spotlight needs turning on all the firms concerned .....
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
tin mining
I know
coral reef damage...and they know . No wonder this planet is on it's knees...I fear for my grandchildren
We can do something, but it's the so called 'third world' countries that don't want to know
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
I would not work under that pile that's about to drop
Trying to put food on the table though
Originally Posted by Sprout:
We can do something, but it's the so called 'third world' countries that don't want to know
we don't Pam..not just Apple, most companies...I am sure Apple is highlighted because of the money it makes...the thing is making sure that teams are in place to make sure the terms are adhered to. It's like a firm saying we are applying all your instructions and the firm saying...right, that's okay then, when it clearly isn't the case.
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
What's up ? 
people being killed under the mud slide, looking for tin...and showed you their bodies with mouths full of sand
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
I would not work under that pile that's about to drop
Trying to put food on the table though
That is the nub of the matter .....it's easy for us to say they shouldn't do it , but in the majority of cases it is low pay, or no pay .......
I think Panorama should show other firms too, to level this one out
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
I would not work under that pile that's about to drop
Trying to put food on the table though
That is the nub of the matter .....it's easy for us to say they shouldn't do it , but in the majority of cases it is low pay, or no pay .......
but companies making billions could so easily right this wrong...it's peanuts to the billions, Apple, Samsung, Next, Primark make 
greed, it comes down to greed and I find that so devastating
Originally Posted by Sprout:
I think Panorama should show other firms too, to level this one out
we know other firms do it Pam, I think Apple's been highlighted because it makes the most. It should lead from the front and I hope it does after this
Microsoft did this without all this palaver
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Baz:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
I would not work under that pile that's about to drop
Trying to put food on the table though
That is the nub of the matter .....it's easy for us to say they shouldn't do it , but in the majority of cases it is low pay, or no pay .......
but companies making billions could so easily right this wrong...it's peanuts to the billions, Apple, Samsung, Next, Primark make greed, it comes down to greed and I find that so devastating
I know Dame ....and so do I ....but given the appalling poverty in some of these countries there will always be people desperate enough to work for next to nothing
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
I think Panorama should show other firms too, to level this one out
we know other firms do it Pam, I think Apple's been highlighted because it makes the most. It should lead from the front and I hope it does after this
So you don't think Sammy makes as much as Apple?
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Microsoft did this without all this palaver
Originally Posted by Baz:
I know Dame ....and so do I ....but given the appalling poverty in some of these countries there will always be people desperate enough to work for next to nothing
I agree Baz, but western countries could so easily right this wrong... I hate greed, I hate the last thirty odd years this countries become..I just find it all really sad Baz I wish I could just close my eyes to it, but can't...
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Baz:
I know Dame ....and so do I ....but given the appalling poverty in some of these countries there will always be people desperate enough to work for next to nothing
I agree Baz, but western countries could so easily right this wrong... I hate greed, I hate the last thirty odd years this countries become..I just find it all really sad Baz I wish I could just close my eyes to it, but can't...
:hug
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
Originally Posted by Sprout:
I think Panorama should show other firms too, to level this one out
we know other firms do it Pam, I think Apple's been highlighted because it makes the most. It should lead from the front and I hope it does after this
So you don't think Sammy makes as much as Apple?
it won't be far off Pam, but it's South Korea and I don't know the working conditions
Originally Posted by Baz:
Phone ...brb
OMG did you hear what the supervisor said
Jeepers! 8am till 1 or 2 am!
8 until 1-2 in the morning
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
OMG did you hear what the supervisor said
and Apple denying it
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
8 until 1-2 in the morning
Slave labour
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Originally Posted by Dame_Ann_Average:
8 until 1-2 in the morning
Slave labour
just like Primark, Next and the rest...although I think Next now applies fair trade
Like I say. The others should be 'outed' too
Originally Posted by Sprout:
Like I say. The others should be 'outed' too
don't need to be ...out the biggest and the rest should be led by example I wish I hadn't watched that
