It's a joke, however as long as there is still debates about it or a little glimmer of hope...

Time for him to go then too, and that's long overdue

I doubt it would have made any difference, they were just so poor and positioning was abysmal.   You can't put that right with a goal.

Argentina (if they get through) will absolutely rip that piss poor german defence to pieces.

Agree. He can take Platini with him.

Yep him as well. They both hate us

Both Assholes of the highest order.

Makes you wonder if they're frightened of what we could find out if anyone delved deep enough

Yep they are. They don't want technology introduced. IMO it's because it will make it harder for them to rig matches to favour the teams they want to.

As far as I am concerned the premiership teams would be a load of balls without the foreign players, English players are lazy and overpaid, just my opinion though

Hmmmm, debatable

England continued their trend of disappointing performances today and were finally punished with a humiliating defeat.  I had to laugh when Capello said England played well.  What planet is he on??

I agree completely.

Some are, some aren't. Some foreign players set the place alight, others are a waste of space. I remember when Villa had David Ginola for a while - the laziest sod on earth. You know that Opta monitoring device they use to track players and count their passes, assists, etc?
They genuinely thought the machine was broke when they used it on Ginola during one match. Turned out it was working fine, he really hadn't moved more than a couple of yards for 90 minutes.

He's been told over and over again not to play Gerrard on the left and to play Rooney up front on his own. He listens to nobody but really, what can you expect? He's not English, what does he care? He's bagged six million for leading England to their worst ever defeat in the whole of their world cup history.

some jocks are saying it wasn't over the line 
 
http://i.imgur.com/45vZD.jpg

They will definitely...Germany ain't that good...all they have is a good strike force the rest of the team ain't that special.



Actuallyt this WC I think the standard generally has been pretty poor from most teams.

So do I.

As far as im concerned, the higher standard the league is, the better for our players. If we didn't have foreign players, the Premier League would be about Championship standard.

Too right. I don't think I've seen one what I could say is a really good team so far.

love it

Argentina have their own crap defence to worry about. The Germans play sharp, intelligent football. The Argies run at teams bombarding them which works against weak teams but won't work against the Germans. I fancy Germany to beat Argentina, and I hope they do.

Really.How can you justify that statement.  

I just think the pace, sharp turning and tricks of the Argie front line will absolutely bamboozle Per Mertesacker. He'll be like Colin Hendry against Brazil in 98 when Ronaldo took the ball past him while making Hendry do a double 360 degree pirouette in his own penalty box looking up in the air for the ball.

Argentina are the Arsenal of the world cup, flat track bullies, good against crap teams awful against good ones. They'll get their comeuppance first good team they meet, which is Germany.

I think some people are getting carried away about this German team. Yes they tanked us today but we contributed to our own downfall. We made it very easy for them with Matthew Upson's comedy defensive performance.

They work well as a unit, but they are full of average players who wouldn't get a look in at most top clubs. Their defence is pure clart. If Argentina really have a go at the German defence which they will, Germany will be ripped to shreds.

Has anyone actually sat and watched Mertesacker and Freidrich play before today? Especially Mertesacker, they are gash. And the left back who plays for Bayern (forgot his name) he didn't play today for whatever reason but I seen him play a lot last season and he is an absolute liability.

Wouldn't describe Mexico as a crap team

Crunchy , give it a rest. I would never, ever gloat but for God's sake, the proof is in the pudding Germany won 4- 1. They won and won WELL

lol Crunchy mate there are a few players in that German side already being chased by PL teams. That team is not full of average players they are very very sharp. I know you're upset England lost I'm f*cking gutted but they are far better than they are being given credit for.

This is correct. I hope it wasn't you I upset with my 'war' comment. Anyway well done your boys deserved it.

EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! I never even said they didn't win. Are you arguing with the fact that England's defence was a shambles?

Prom, thanks very much,kind and decent of you to say that.Thanks mate..xx

ive got chavs over the back, they have uvvuvewhatits too, mine conduct their whole lives in the backgarden shouting at each other thru windows as in

' persephone! you aht of the bathroom yet, im dyin for a feckin pee'

i will never move, they make my day.

england were pretty dire , the mexicans were less dire, but both teams had goals awarded against them that weren't goals, and the game dies.

sport my arse.

You're very welcome. I think it's to your benefit that people don't realise how good this new German team is yet. I hope you win it now.

I can only dream

I agree ... FIFA has to bring in the technology to over-rule 'should've gone to specsavers' refs ... it's long overdue