well we will never know.... but congrats Germany and Fairfax at least you can breath again.

We will never know what difference it would have made had they been given the goal they quite rightly scored and had taken away from them,but in all honesty they have played badly this time round..

We may still have lost had Lampards goal been allowed, we didn't deserve to win, but fact is Lampards disallowed goal has played a HUGE part in the outcome of the game. People will say they scored 4 and we scored 2, but their last 2 were as a result of us going all out attack to get back in the game.

The players deserve all the criticism they will get and now they will have to get together and think what to do before the next major tournament..


Only consolation is that there will be stronger calls for goaline technology.

The frustrating thing is, most of those German players wouldn't get a look in at the clubs that our lads play for.

Hansen is right though, you shouldn't need technology to see that.

If the officials can't see something as clear as that from the positions that they were in, they shouldn't be refereeing at sunday league level let alone the world cup.

Looks like Capello will be going despite him signing that new contract?.

I know looking at the angle where he was surely he could have spotted it?, maybe the post blocked his view or something LOL. Where was the extra linesman etc?.

I think they're on the phone to 5live now - quick, go and cut their phone lines

The writing was on the wall. And the fans deserve better.

You realise that that's the same argument (but the other way round) that's used to justify 1966?

So it's OK if it works in Englands favour, but not if it works against them.

If he resigns he resigns, but sacking him would be pointless. We'd just be back to square one again. We tried the english approach with McClown, it didn't work so we went for one of the most proven coaches in football, it hadn't worked this world cup. But if we were to sack him, what do we try next? Another person with a top CV? Another english manager?

Holland has my support now.


I would have backed Argentina too without Maradona.

Oh well... Argentina to win then

Mark Hughes

I would rather him go on his own accord, maybe hopefully he will stay and think about how we can do better next time.. whats the point in having a contract for a few years?, they should have gave Fabio a year or two then add clauses depending on how he do etc.



Roy Hodgson is linked, me thinks he could be off to Anfield.

Nah, the post would only block his view if he was in line with the post i.e. pretty much at the corner flag.
There's no excuses for not giving that goal.

I like Hodgson, but really what he done this season at Fulham is only the same as what McClaren done at boro to land himself the England job.


The only man who I think would be a definite better choice than Capello has just taken the Real Madrid job.

But England were never in front?

Gutted 

Sir Chris Hoy.

 One person said that Capello should resign on SSN, they're entitled to their opinion but thats a joke IMO.


A right shambles it is.

Where the hell did I say England were in front?

Aah Mourinho, you never know as he doesn't like to stay in one place for long.



His last job will definetly be Portugal thats for sure, however I wonder if it is true he really wants the United job.

Hello stranger LTNS  We had to do another footie thread as the one you started finally stopped working right after about 500 pages.

No

When the France v Ireland game was on you justified the French goal saying Ireland were never in front and missed goal chances. So I am doing the same.

Ain't life just a bitch.

Hi Veggie  Yeah i saw the new thread 

Why do you think that?.


However he is the perfect choice when SAF goes, however I will be happy in a way because of his lack of work with the younger players which would be one of the negatives against him...

I never once justified the french goal, it clearly shouldn't have been allowed. All I said was that all this 'Ireland deserved to go through' bollocks is just that, bollocks. They didn't deserve to be there at all, just like I said England didn't deserve anything from todays game despite the decision.

Nice try though.

darlo .... i will cry if Mourinho ever becomes United manager 

I just don't see why Mourinho would go to Man United. I think for him to come back to England he'd want more of a challenge, somewhere where he can make history.

Next world cup:

Hart
G.Johnson
Lescott
Onuohna
Cole
Milner
Wilshere
Huddlestone
A.Johnson
Rooney
Defoe (possibly even Sturridge)


Our with the old and in with the new... hopefully those mensioned are in form and are the "big players" of the EPl when the time comes.

LOL who knows JJ, he hasn't ruled out a return to Chelsea one day..


I'm looking forward to seeing more of  Chicarito aka  Javier Hernandez tonight for Mexico, thats if he plays.

Unlikely, why on earth would he go to a club which is over £1billion in debt? Call me delusional, but I think theres more chance of him coming to City. Not won anything for 34 years and the owner would allow him to buy the players he wants and the club has the money for any player in the world. A challenge which is lined up perfectly for him.

True but maybe thats always been a dream of his or an ambition?, when he came to attention who could have predicted what he did for Porto then moving to Chelsea after.

Not one of those players play anywhere near as badly as that for their club teams. If that isn't the manager's fault who's bloody fault is it? Gerrard on the left is a joke. Gerrard and Lampard together is a joke (they've never played well together, ever). He plays a formation that not one single player in the England squad plays with his club. He refuses to play Rooney on his own up front despite the fact he scored for fun playing in that position in the toughest league in the world. There isn't an opposition manager in the world who doesn't LOL when they see Heskey or Sean Wright Phillips coming on to the pitch.

Mr Capello. Please do the honourable thing and f*ck right off. You're a fraud.

Thing is, blooming Blatter said before this World Cup there will be no more talk about it - there will be no technology!

Butcher is making a good point on sky. When do we ever see a team winning any of the top prizes playing with 2 in midfield and 2 up front (442 basically). Even in club football, the winning formula over the past few years has been playing with 1 main striker and 3 in midfield with 2 wide players.

I'm certain we would have been more of a threat and more solid if we'd played the system of Lampard, Barry and then Gerrard in front of them playing behind Rooney as the main striker. Think it would have given us more balance.