Nadine Dorries says child sex abuse victims should “just say no”

It begs belief.

That's awful Erin.    What a thing to say to these poor people who are suffering.  And even years after the abuse, people are still suffering.  They'll be saying the kids 'lead them on' next!

*picks up jaw from floor*

She really is a vile woman. It's time the people of Bedforshire woke up and voted her arse out of the Commons.

Just proves.....some politicians don't deserve to breathe the same air as us 

There are just no words

During her speech in the HOC about girls abstaining she stated "in some newsagents now there are more sex magazines available than any other kind of magazine"

 

Chris Bryant replied "Stop going to the shops then"

   Good retort 

What a complete and utter piece of trash she is.

My good gawd!!!! The woman should be sacked those comments are an absolute effing disgrace Victims of child sex abuse are innocent little things, who are manipulated by their abusers, and in most cases too darn terrified to tell anyone what is happening to them. AND quiet often, may tell someone they trust, who then does nothing! Just say no?! I've never heard such utter bull in my life!

 

 

Is it just me that think most of the Cons are idiots, she takes the biscuit  I just hope it never happens to some young child close to her, who will she blame then!

She must be related to that judge who told a child who was raped that she was asking for it

 

If any of her constituents vote for her in the future they should be bloody ashamed of themselves

 

Exactly Veggie

FFS! Bit like that old Tory dinosaur Clarke claiming there are "degrees" of rape..NO!  rape is rape..eejits.Christ it's like the dark ages...

These people do really need to pinch themselves and get into the real world  

Absolutely! The thing is -  some of these children don't have a clue what's going on ................they assume it must be OK. I think there really is an over reaction here TBH ............if kids are told it's wrong and something like this is ought out in the open then maybe they'll talk about it.

 

People are far too quick to jump on something that seems politically incorrect.................if this sort of thing is bought into the open and spoken about openly then maybe the children who are being abused may just realise that they are able to speak out.

 

OMG .................just put my head on the chopping block again. Sometimes though - do we not have to look beyond the headlines and sensationalism?

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm simply trying to say that kids should know that their body is their own ................no one has the right to violate them. Surely that's not bad is it?

Of course not Soozy, it's how people go about it that speak for the children/kids though 

Alas Soozy it can happen to children that can't even speak properly due to their young age,by a so called family member.

So surely kids should be given the message that it's wrong (not that they are guilty of anything) simply that no one has the right to abuse their bodies.

 

So often you hear stories about child abuse (within the family) that only comes out years later because the child simply thought it was normal.

I agree - education at an early age could help in these situations.  Of course it is never going to eliminate it and to suggest such a thing in no way suggests that children in these situations are to blame however teaching them that something like this happening to them is wrong could help a child to understand and raise the alarm sooner.

Soozy it's a lot more complicated than that.Adult abusers manipulate young children,maybe say "If you tell anyone,mummy won't love you/mummy will send you away etc.The kids are innocent,the onus should not be on them to "be strong" etc.Abuse can start at very young ages etc even before the child attends school etc.I don't know if the schools "warn/teach" kids in the first primary etc.

Hmmnnnn...

Awwwwwwwwwwwww bless you PP - you do realise that I'm seriously  F***ked now that you've agreed with me though don't you?

I'm not stupid and I fully realise that. The thing is ...........maybe these things should be broached. I have worked with kids from abused families (because it's the norm for them - gone on for generations) if things are spoken about openly - is that not a good thing?

Sorry - though all I do is respond to those who would like to discuss the topic at hand and ignore those just after a row.

Its up to parents to teach children "To say No" (Loudly) as well as schools......

Yea Soozy,asI said if the kids can speak,babies and toddlers are abused alas.Hopefully if they get to school etc then they can have a voice,however I don't know if such things are talked about in the first few years of primary school?

Yes Syd but it's more common that it's one of the parents doing the abusing or a close relative,rather than  a "stranger" down the road.A contentious and   tragic subject,alas.

Probably not - and I guess you have to weigh it all up. However - maybe there is a way of spelling out the message that no one has the right to mess with your body - your body belongs to you!

I think it is up to the Parents, family to be "Aware"......and inform children of an appropriate age, what is right and what is wrong.....And make them feel comfortable to say "No"......

 

Agreed....Just say NO to rape, drugs, domestic abuse, murder...any old other abuse of power you care to mention..easy innit?

Then that's where the "Outside voice"  of  "just say NO" " comes in......

Sorry Syd,you're losing me...I'm off.

Yes, and only one we can be quietly alert for.....this is'nt a recent only problem........

No is not an option,thats why its called abuse.

 

Parents are not going to advice them to "Say No".....so people on the outside need to tell them that they can be approached to "Tell"

Yes I agree .....................but what if the abuse is going on within the family (as is often the case) ........should it not be a subject that's raised? Age appropriate obviously.

Maybe children should know what is 'normal' and acceptable from a young age, Children really should be taught in an age appropriate manner that their bodies are their own. I don't like to do this smiley  but some kids are in families where there is no way out ................letting them know that what is going on in there little life is not acceptable and not right is no bad thing IMO