quote:Originally posted by wandawitch:quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:
FGS...she's a mother of two.
Daily Mail link.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...images-children.html
How would she like someone to do this to her kids? mind, you don't know what were going on in that house.
quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
Isn't there any way you could go with them as a helper or something? It just seems so unfair that he'll miss out if his mates are going. I'm not judging you Pixie btw, I do understand where you are coming from.
quote:Originally posted by angelicarwen:
My Mum works in a nursery and I'm not saying for a second that any of the women who work there would sexually abuse a child but my Mum says she has caught a few girls on occasions hauling babies about by a leg and screaming and swearing at them. And as soon as she has appeared around the corner they start pretending they were singing and stuff
This nursery takes children from 6 weeks and the women that work in the baby room apparently can't hack the pressure
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
Isn't there any way you could go with them as a helper or something? It just seems so unfair that he'll miss out if his mates are going. I'm not judging you Pixie btw, I do understand where you are coming from.
No worries on the judging front,I wanna let him go....my gut instinct won't let me say yes.
He's Ok though we've promised him that he can choose what we do that weekend instead.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
OMG, just watching the news now. Some of the children she has allegedly abused, were from the nursery
quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
OMG, just watching the news now. Some of the children she has allegedly abused, were from the nursery
Just seen it Lassie.
Apparently, when she appears in Court in the morning, a lot of the mothers are planning to also be there!!
quote:Originally posted by HyacinthB:
That sounds like a fair compromise Pesky but, all the same, isn't it sad that parents have to think like that these days?
You just don't know who to trust anymore!
I still cannot comprehend how anyone, man or woman, could find pleasure in abusing young children when placed in their care!!
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
CRB checks are only useful if the person has any convictions. If they have been at this kind of thing for years but never been caught, you cannot blame the CRB check.
We are changing over from CRB's soon anyway to a new system, I have to go to a meeting about it soon to see how we are going to be affected in social care.
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
CRB checks are only useful if the person has any convictions. If they have been at this kind of thing for years but never been caught, you cannot blame the CRB check.
We are changing over from CRB's soon anyway to a new system, I have to go to a meeting about it soon to see how we are going to be affected in social care.
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
CRB checks are only useful if the person has any convictions. If they have been at this kind of thing for years but never been caught, you cannot blame the CRB check.
We are changing over from CRB's soon anyway to a new system, I have to go to a meeting about it soon to see how we are going to be affected in social care.
Yeah, I know the CRB checks are only useful if the person has a record, it's the fact that they are the only checks available and as a parent you are told that if someone is CRB checked your child is safe that bothers me.
Us parents aren't allowed on school trips to help out, as we haven't been CRB checked, but this woman was allowed as much access to children as she wanted!
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
CRB checks are only useful if the person has any convictions. If they have been at this kind of thing for years but never been caught, you cannot blame the CRB check.
We are changing over from CRB's soon anyway to a new system, I have to go to a meeting about it soon to see how we are going to be affected in social care.
Yeah, I know the CRB checks are only useful if the person has a record, it's the fact that they are the only checks available and as a parent you are told that if someone is CRB checked your child is safe that bothers me.
Us parents aren't allowed on school trips to help out, as we haven't been CRB checked, but this woman was allowed as much access to children as she wanted!
Not only is she charged with illegal images, it's sexual abuse now aswell. To top it all off, the bastard's got 2 kids of her own. 
quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
Parents can come on a trip at our school,but they would have a member of staff with them.We like to have them with us if we have to divide into groups so we can have two adults with a group(for H and S reasons)
quote:Originally posted by Karma_:
Have been following this story on the news. F***in makes my blood boil
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:quote:Originally posted by Mazzystar:
Parents can come on a trip at our school,but they would have a member of staff with them.We like to have them with us if we have to divide into groups so we can have two adults with a group(for H and S reasons)
We aren't allowed to go at all.
Not that I'd want to go now, they like their independence, but when they were smaller it would've been nice to be able to help out.
As you said before Mazzy they take an age to come back anyway, by the time they were done the trip would have come and gone. The dinner ladies etc usually help out on the trips here.
quote:Enhanced checks are for posts involving a far greater degree of contact with children or vulnerable adults. In general, the type of work will involve regularly caring for, supervising, training or being in sole charge of such people. Examples include a Teacher, Scout or Guide leader. Enhanced checks are also issued for certain statutory purposes such as gaming and lottery licences.
Enhanced checks contain the same information as Standard checks but with the addition of any locally held police force information considered relevant to the job role, by Chief Police Officer(s).
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Bear in mind that the woman has only been charged at this point and not tried and convicted.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Bear in mind that the woman has only been charged at this point and not tried and convicted.
quote:Originally posted by Joods:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Bear in mind that the woman has only been charged at this point and not tried and convicted.
That's a minor detail. Police have all the evidence they need to ensure she's convicted and punished.
quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Bear in mind that the woman has only been charged at this point and not tried and convicted.
Always useful to keep in mind. I noticed the police warning the press to be careful in their reporting of the case so as not to prejudice it. They must feel they have a strong case.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Bear in mind that the woman has only been charged at this point and not tried and convicted.
quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Bear in mind that the woman has only been charged at this point and not tried and convicted.
Always useful to keep in mind. I noticed the police warning the press to be careful in their reporting of the case so as not to prejudice it. They must feel they have a strong case.
If they have pictures on a camera phone and other personal media or pictures of her doing the abuse then it's likely to be a strong case.
If the pictures are on a shared PC, or a PC which could possibly be used by others, or even a PC on an unsecured wireless network, then it might not be so easy to prove beyond reasonable doubt.
It sounds from the reporting that this is going to convict but I think the principle of not convicting by media trial is generally a good one.
quote:Originally posted by china:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Bear in mind that the woman has only been charged at this point and not tried and convicted.
come on mr dan!
the cops would have to have some good evidence to even think of picking her up for questioning-let alone charging the woman
it gives me the creeps to think that this kind of horrible shit goes on
and queenie-i know what youre saying about me and others saying its worse when a woman does it-but it somehow makes it seem worse, cos you dont think of women being involved in this sort of thing
i know you read about women teachers etc.. having sex with lads of about 14
but these are tiny little kids she was supposed to be caring for and she makes my skin crawl
quote:Originally posted by Mentalist:
This is sickening, and if there is any justice in the world she will never see the light of day again if she is guilty.
The problem is, if this woman is convicted and it is considered a first offence the chances are she will get a very light sentence. This I find terrible, believe me the children are facing a life sentence one way or another and so should she.
quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Agreed. Having said all that though, I hope the sentencing if she is convicted is not derisory.
quote:Originally posted by china:quote:Originally posted by Daniel J*:
Bear in mind that the woman has only been charged at this point and not tried and convicted.
come on mr dan!
the cops would have to have some good evidence to even think of picking her up for questioning-let alone charging the woman
it gives me the creeps to think that this kind of horrible shit goes on
and queenie-i know what youre saying about me and others saying its worse when a woman does it-but it somehow makes it seem worse, cos you dont think of women being involved in this sort of thing
i know you read about women teachers etc.. having sex with lads of about 14
but these are tiny little kids she was supposed to be caring for and she makes my skin crawl
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
*Has worked out that is on most peoples ignored lists, even when being insightful and not taking the piss*
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
Good luck to them getting an impartial jury that hasn't heard about the case and formed opinions from the media.
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
*Has worked out that is on most peoples ignored lists, even when being insightful and not taking the piss*
quote:Originally posted by Ennis Del Beadle:
*Has worked out that is on most peoples ignored lists, even when being insightful and not taking the piss*
quote:Originally posted by ~Orchid~:
Some male Paedophiles get light sentences as well.
