I have to say I can't even imagine what those kids parents are going through. Although it's not their fault, they're bound to feel unforgivably guilty for entrusting their children to people who have potentially deliberatly hurt them.
Child abusers should never, ever be let out of prison. They cannot be rehabilated (imo) and no chances should ever be taken that they are no longer a threat to a child if they are released. How many times was that monster, Sidney Cook, let out of prison to kidnap, rape and torture children? The justice system in this country is a disgrace, especially in respect of paedophiles. Chemical castration doesn't work, so no point in wasting time, effort and money on that. Keep them inside and ensure that every day of their miserable existence, they are punished.
quote:Originally posted by pussycatj:quote:Originally posted by Yogi 19:
Breaking News on Sky News. The woman, Ms George, has been charged with four counts of sexual abuse and three counts of making and distributing indecent images of children.
OMG that's horrendous, but maybe she is just the tip of iceberg, what about the sick fcks that have set her up, and the other's that buy that material. Don't tell me there are women out there that don't know what their OH's are doing whilst on the net, they must know, and how could you defend them?
I can`t, for the life of me, understand these people. How anyone could cover for them is beyond me. Poor little kids.
A friend of mine's husband was arrested during Operation Ore for having images of children on his computer. They were a recently married, professional couple in their late 20's. She had no idea what he was doing. She found out when she received a call from him while she was at her works Christmas party to say he'd been arrested. He'd been downloading porn from what are known as 'Lolita' sites, apparently his taste was for barely legal teens ie 16/17 year olds and the sites he had paid to join started linking him to other sites which started sending him images of very young children, which he did nothing to stop. He'd been doing this before he even met my friend and as he worked in IT he had stuff on automatic download, so she never suspected a thing. They were about to undergo IVF treatment, which was obviously immediately stopped. He went to prison for 4 months, put in a special protected wing with other sex offenders and got to work in the prison library. She was spat at in the street, her car was wrecked, she had a mob outside her house and her parents house every night for months screaming paedophile at her and her dad. She had human excrement thrown at her windows and she received death threats as did her pet cats. She couldn't move away as it was impossible for her to sell the house they'd lived in due to all the things that were happening. She eventually had a nervous breakdown from which she is still recovering. She divorced him obviously and she moved away from the area as soon as she could and thankfully last month she re-married. Her punishment was much worse than the one given to her husband and yet she had truly done nothing wrong.
If any of you have the news on the police are about to give a press conference on this case.
quote:Originally posted by wandawitch:
If any of you have the news on the police are about to give a press conference on this case.
Just turned over to Sky news..thanks Wanda.
It's starting now.
Disgusting evil b**** l hope she gets life. Those poor children and their families.
Oh Jesus. Those poor families.
God...
Images found seem to be on camera phone. 
I can't comment further on a personal level I am unbelievably angry about this at the minute.
I can't comment further on a personal level I am unbelievably angry about this at the minute.
They believe some of the images were taken within the nursery.
LUTing as much as can for any non TV watching lurkers.
LUTing as much as can for any non TV watching lurkers.
Some of the images were taken inside the nursery. I feel physically sick.
That was a really good point made by the reporter from the BBC, she's 39 how long has she been doing this, and where else has she worked before.
Who the hell are you supposed to trust with your children these days? I'm so thankful that I'm lucky enough to be able to stay at home with my child when it gets here. This is going to scare a lot of parents who aren't in so fortunate a position.
It's bad cos you trust your kids to be left safe at the nursery and god knows what she's got away with...Nobody would suspect a woman.
quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
Who the hell are you supposed to trust with your children these days? I'm so thankful that I'm lucky enough to be able to stay at home with my baby when it's here. This is going to scare a lot of parents who aren't in so fortunate a position.
I think that's part of the reason it's so shocking, one for being a woman, but mainly because she worked in a nursery.
Police just said all children at the nursery were under four years old.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think women are indeed seen as nurturing and it seems abhorrent that a women would hurt a child. Society, doesn't like to think that a woman could have these sort of feelings and abuse a child - but we know it goes on. Not just sexual abuse but mental abuse too.
The fact that women are assumed to be caring and maternal and therefore incapable of harming kids means that abuse can be perpetuated much longer. One woman I know, who was diagnosed with a personality disorder nearly 30 years ago and has been in and out of psychiatric units since 1980, is allowed to keep custody of a child that I know for A FACT she is neglecting physically and abusing emotionally. This woman has been arrested for stalking, harrassment and carrying knives, but the family court is insistent that 'a child's place is with it mother' NO MATTER WHAT.
HOWEVER, any time this woman makes a trumped-up charge against her ex, SHE is automatically believed by Social Services, because ALL women are nurturing, right?
The woman has ruined her child and the authorities let her do it. Even this woman's own mother agrees that she shouldn't have custody of the kid, but the abuse goes on unstopped. I'll be due back in court to give evidence against her again later this year, but I know many people who are too scared to stand up to this woman as she is (diagnosed) psychotic. But someone has to tell the truth about her and stick up for the kid who can't stick up for herself.
The system sucks.
Oh this makes me want to be sick
I'm so glad I don't have to send my child to a nursery and so grateful that I know that my child is safe at home with her Mummy everyday.
I cannot imagine what these poor families are going through thinking what if she went anywhere near my child.
I swear if someone went anywhere near my daughter I would skin them alive
I'm so glad I don't have to send my child to a nursery and so grateful that I know that my child is safe at home with her Mummy everyday.
I cannot imagine what these poor families are going through thinking what if she went anywhere near my child.
I swear if someone went anywhere near my daughter I would skin them alive
Caravan searched at Harlyn Bay, Cornwall as well.
quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
A friend of mine's husband was arrested during Operation Ore for having images of children on his computer. They were a recently married, professional couple in their late 20's. She had no idea what he was doing. She found out when she received a call from him while she was at her works Christmas party to say he'd been arrested. He'd been downloading porn from what are known as 'Lolita' sites, apparently his taste was for barely legal teens ie 16/17 year olds and the sites he had paid to join started linking him to other sites which started sending him images of very young children, which he did nothing to stop. He'd been doing this before he even met my friend and as he worked in IT he had stuff on automatic download, so she never suspected a thing. They were about to undergo IVF treatment, which was obviously immediately stopped. He went to prison for 4 months, put in a special protected wing with other sex offenders and got to work in the prison library. She was spat at in the street, her car was wrecked, she had a mob outside her house and her parents house every night for months screaming paedophile at her and her dad. She had human excrement thrown at her windows and she received death threats as did her pet cats. She couldn't move away as it was impossible for her to sell the house they'd lived in due to all the things that were happening. She eventually had a nervous breakdown from which she is still recovering. She divorced him obviously and she moved away from the area as soon as she could and thankfully last month she re-married. Her punishment was much worse than the one given to her husband and yet she had truly done nothing wrong.
That is very sad. Those so called self righteous human beings are just as sick as any paedophile for targetting a totally innocent woman and her parents and making thier lives hell.
quote:Originally posted by fracas:
The fact that women are assumed to be caring and maternal and therefore incapable of harming kids means that abuse can be perpetuated much longer. One woman I know, who was diagnosed with a personality disorder nearly 30 years ago and has been in and out of psychiatric units since 1980, is allowed to keep custody of a child that I know for A FACT she is neglecting physically and abusing emotionally. This woman has been arrested for stalking, harrassment and carrying knives, but the family court is insistent that 'a child's place is with it mother' NO MATTER WHAT.
HOWEVER, any time this woman makes a trumped-up charge against her ex, SHE is automatically believed by Social Services, because ALL women are nurturing, right?
The woman has ruined her child and the authorities let her do it. Even this woman's own mother agrees that she shouldn't have custody of the kid, but the abuse goes on unstopped. I'll be due back in court to give evidence against her again later this year, but I know many people who are too scared to stand up to this woman as she is (diagnosed) psychotic. But someone has to tell the truth about her and stick up for the kid who can't stick up for herself.
The system sucks.
That is dreadful fracas.
I think you make a valid point about the abuse being perpetuated longer. I think there is the possibility that because it is a woman involved, that people may not believe that it is actually going on. Perhaps they tend to think "oh surely not, it is a woman and women don't do those things", hence allowing the abuse to go on unchecked. People tend to think that this is a crime committed solely by men and it is not. Women are also capable of the most dreadful abuse and need to be brought to justice and punished accordingly.
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:
I think that's part of the reason it's so shocking, one for being a woman, but mainly because she worked in a nursery.
Police just said all children at the nursery were under four years old.
Abusers very often get jobs with kids
Makes you wonder how she got this job in the first place. Thank god, it was picked up on and dealt with. A shame it took so long.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think you make a valid point about the abuse being perpetuated longer. I think there is the possibility that because it is a woman involved, that people may not believe that it is actually going on. Perhaps they tend to think "oh surely not, it is a woman and women don't do those things", hence allowing the abuse to go on unchecked.
Ed Zachary Flaps, and that is also why people are quick to believe her lies about her ex, just because he is a man. I think many women have abused their exes like this, by taking advantage of commonly held streotypes. I feel so bad for men who have been ufairly tarred by women like this, as shit sticks
quote:Originally posted by fracas:
Abusers very often get jobs with kids
I know fracas, only last night my 8 year old came home asking if he could go camping with his cub group at a Countywide weekend event.
I HAD to say no, I just can't take the risk.
sorry guys just missed the news conf.....was this evil biatch actually abusing the kids in the nursery were she works 
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:quote:Originally posted by fracas:
Abusers very often get jobs with kids
I know fracas, only last night my 8 year old came home asking if he could go camping with his cub group at a Countywide weekend event.
I HAD to say no, I just can't take the risk.
That's really sad.
quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
sorry guys just missed the news conf.....was this evil biatch actually abusing the kids in the nursery were she works
The police believe images of children from the nursery were found on her phone.
As for the 'acts' all the police said is they were children under 12.
quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
Makes you wonder how she got this job in the first place.
Four words Flaps: Ian Huntley, School Janitor
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:quote:Originally posted by Lockes no 1 fan:
sorry guys just missed the news conf.....was this evil biatch actually abusing the kids in the nursery were she works
The police believe images of children from the nursery were found on her phone.
As for the 'acts' all the police said is they were children under 12.
OMG I really cant beleive it
how sad for these poor children and their parentsquote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
That's really sad.
Thing is...if anything did happen I can't ever undo it.... I can never make it better like it was before the incident. That's why I said no.
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:
I know fracas, only last night my 8 year old came home asking if he could go camping with his cub group at a Countywide weekend event.
I HAD to say no, I just can't take the risk.
And isn't it sad that parents have to be so vigilant because kids get targeted by people they are meant to trust.
I think you did the right thing, but you can't explain why to a kid.
quote:Originally posted by fracas:quote:Originally posted by Liverpoollass:
I think you make a valid point about the abuse being perpetuated longer. I think there is the possibility that because it is a woman involved, that people may not believe that it is actually going on. Perhaps they tend to think "oh surely not, it is a woman and women don't do those things", hence allowing the abuse to go on unchecked.
Ed Zachary Flaps, and that is also why people are quick to believe her lies about her ex, just because he is a man. I think many women have abused their exes like this, by taking advantage of commonly held streotypes. I feel so bad for men who have been ufairly tarred by women like this, as shit sticks
I do too. These family courts, that are held in secret, do tend to give custody to the mother without taking into account the father's feelings or suitability. Men do get tarred with the same brush and are treated badly and unfairly in alot of cases.
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:
FGS...she's a mother of two.
Daily Mail link.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...images-children.html
How would she like someone to do this to her kids? mind, you don't know what were going on in that house.
all i can say is it must be a very shoddy way this nursery is run, iam a nursery nurse and have been for the past 15years and the rule is no one member of staff is to be alone with any child,for any reason this is for the safety of the nursery staff as much as it is for the childrens safety. so i my opinion somebody else knew what was going on.
My Mum works in a nursery and I'm not saying for a second that any of the women who work there would sexually abuse a child but my Mum says she has caught a few girls on occasions hauling babies about by a leg and screaming and swearing at them. And as soon as she has appeared around the corner they start pretending they were singing and stuff
This nursery takes children from 6 weeks and the women that work in the baby room apparently can't hack the pressure
This nursery takes children from 6 weeks and the women that work in the baby room apparently can't hack the pressure
quote:Originally posted by fracas:
And isn't it sad that parents have to be so vigilant because kids get targeted by people they are meant to trust.
I think you did the right thing, but you can't explain why to a kid.
I tried to explain but at 8, they try but don't really get it. We go camping as a family and they (all 3 boys) always go up to the toilets together, so my 8 year old is aware of 'funny' people rules...but as always they seem to think it's always strangers that do this - not peeps they know.
quote:Originally posted by *Pesky-Pixie*:quote:Originally posted by Queen of the High Teas:
That's really sad.
Thing is...if anything did happen I can't ever undo it.... I can never make it better like it was before the incident. That's why I said no.
Isn't there any way you could go with them as a helper or something? It just seems so unfair that he'll miss out if his mates are going. I'm not judging you Pixie btw, I do understand where you are coming from.
quote:Originally posted by angelicarwen:
My Mum works in a nursery and I'm not saying for a second that any of the women who work there would sexually abuse a child but my Mum says she has caught a few girls on occasions hauling babies about by a leg and screaming and swearing at them. And as soon as she has appeared around the corner they start pretending they were singing and stuff
This nursery takes children from 6 weeks and the women that work in the baby room apparently can't hack the pressure
well I hope your mum did something about it