She can't sing  

She should stick to trying to sing singing with a group I do like her though and she is very beautiful, she's just a crap singer......

She can't sing yet she is a judge on a talent show based on the fact she is a 'singer'. She comes across as a completely selfish bitch who pretends to care about others when there is a camera on her (Have read on DS that people have worked with her and have conformed this). She wouldnt be where she is now had Ashley not cheated on her. Also the fact she acts as though butter wouldn't melt, eg when Ablisa were on and one of them hit the other she was so shocked saying 'oh my god she hit hit' and then acted as if it was the most shocking thing she had ever seen in her life despite the fact she has been convicted for assault.

All the above aside, it annoys me someone with little more than good looks has such a high place in showbiz, and gets everything handed to her on a plate.

National treasure.

I don't mind her either DiD, and she is very beautiful 

Neither can many other people, but I don't see this level of vitriol (sp) towards them

I always though Frank Sinatra was sh*te and he did well onetoo 

PMSL Dame!

Just the way the media idolise her

And that she comes up with crap songs.

I'm amazed so many people find Cheryl's alleged inability to sing so offensive while watching a TV show full of talentless pointless plonkers. I think the fact she's so pretty really doesn't help eh ladies?

But so do others Charli  I'm not saying she's the best and got everything going for her, but she seems to be being targeted big time lately

Ah Prom, could that be it?

I often vent about the crap songs of those "others"; only this forum doesn't seem to be the right place for that, so I go to another one

I don't like her because she started off as a chavvy asbo deserving nobody and was turned into a National Treasure by that Irish idiot who thought she was the most georgous thing that ever walked the earth. Well, maybe she was a good looking teenager, but everything since then has been paid for, I'm sure that includes trying to make music that people will buy.

I certainly wouldn't rule it out

Everyone's entitled to their opinion     I just think that some go OTT sometimes   Don't get me wrong. I'm not singling Cheryl out and sticking up for her (Hell, I'm a rocker at heart) but I really don't think she deserves this.

Who are you referring to?

Sorry, onetwo, but I think she does. She's been taking the mickey for years and has made lots of money without any discernable talent for anything, never mind singing. I find that very cynical. If she just had to rely on herself without a manager, she would be working in a corner shop and be propositioned (sp) every Friday night to go for a couple of pints.

Some go OTT with the Cheryl love as well it works both ways

Keep your hair on RR, I'm talking about Loius Walsh.

Some would say Victoria Beckham's done the same   It's a case of who's in the spotlight at the time I guess

What do you mean keep your hair own, I couldn't work out who you were on about! Louis doesn't like Cheryl, he used to slag her off constantly on the live shows. It is Simon who idolises her not Louis.

Ah, but I didn't say I loved her  Allthough I guess you could be referring to anyone

It's on record that when she auditioned for the band, he took one look at her and told her she was the most beautiful thing he'd ever seen. Simon doesn't give a monkey's what people look like, he's a business man, Louis Walsh is the queenie who sees things with his physique shall we say, rather than his brain.

Attractive... but can be incredibly annoying, you could say the media are solely to blame for that though. The nations sweetheart tag didnt help matters either... it seemed to cause uproar.

You have also ask... had she looked overweight and incredibly ugly, would she be where she is now? I remember that Hannah on x factor few years ago, didnt seem to have the right look so she didnt even make it past the judges houses Years ago you could have a face like a slapped arse and people would still buy your music, now a days with the younger generation... its as though looks/attractiveness sell records.

Heres the girl im on about...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpWus7NUeyY

Think you will find that was Pete Waterman, Louis never commented on her appearance 

RiverRock, I've hit someone before, but I'd still be shocked if I seen someone punch their best mate on stage in front of 3,000 people and TV cameras. I don't really understand where you're coming from there.

It was the way she was acting as if it was the first time she has ever witnessed violence.

She wasn't acting like it was the first time she'd seen violence. She was shocked cos a girl had punched her so called best friend right in the face on national TV and in front of a 3000 audience, hence the reaction 'She just punched her!!!'

Had it been in a pub in Heaton, I'm sure she wouldn't have been as surprised.

 Loads of people would react the same, whether they'd witnessed violence before or not.

I stand corrected RR, you're quite right it was Peter Waterman. Sorry.

I remember her. It was between her and Diana Vickers as to who went through to the live shows. I remember thinking Cheryl was mad for picking Diana.

But Diana has surprised me I have to say. I honestly didn't think she'd get very far in the live shows let alone end up with a number 1.

No probs Cologne I don't really have any great like Louis but I think he gets a particularly unwarranted hard time.

Dianas voice sounds like nails up a blackboard to me.

Which is why I didn't think she'd end up getting far in the live shows let alone a number 1.

I've never been a fan of Diana's voice, but obviously a lot of people are.

Hated this at first, well not hated but just didn't like it much. Now after I've heard it a few times on the radio etc, it's really growing on me.

I hate it, I actually like Fight for this Love but that is a heap of over produced bollix, obviously covering miss coles 'voice'.