Goodnight everyone  

night everybody

That's shallot 

 

Yep, as suspected, it's beyond acceptable.

Night all......that was much ado about nothing much......Jeremy and Chloe and not enough ado about that disgusting old twerp.....Ken

 

yep... I'll just remind everyone at this point that I like Michelle right from her VT....    *looks smugs*    *waits for michelle to totally blow it*

Yes Bethni. The one night I'd watch BOTS afterwards - its not on!!! 

 

Night all 

Yes, but that's where the producers should play their part too 

night all  

Night all.

Ken needs a few 'life-lessons', if you ask me.

 

I admit it - you were correct.

 

Mind your head as you go through the door  

*preens*   

Yeah, but mind your head too  

I think he knows 'how to go on' Fluffs. I think he wants to get chucked out. He's out of his depth  

Anyone see Patsy.?

What Jeremy did was out of order, there's no doubt about it. But he's obviously got issues, and was pissed at the time. He made one mistake and was remorseful afterwards.

Ken however has made disgusting remarks towards women, he's openly admitted to going to the bathroom to perve at arses, he's then used racist offensive language, he's then asked someone he's only just met a question about violently ****ing someone else in the same room. Yet despite being aware of his actions and being told countless number of times, he hasn't once apologised or tried to tone it down.

Yet Jeremy is booted out and Ken is still in there. It's not right.

I see young men talk crudely about women every year on BB...why weren't they warned?  is it ok for tanned, hunky, toned young men to be vile but an old bloke cant make a few joking comments?

Producers? 

 you might just be ok.

How can you refer to The Bazinator like that! Be afraid, very afraid!  

Ken is doing it by numbers Crunchy. He wants out, he thinks he'll go for gold regarding offensive behaviour. Bring it on old fart, I say, and see your reputation flushed down the loo! And don't think you've played BB for fools and take the money at the earliest opportunity or us viewers for fools even if you go on Tuesday. Well, not me anyway! 

 

And I hope his punishment is staying in and not being the first out as it appears he thinks it is a badge of honour, stupid panto fool. "It's behind you!" your career mate.

Ah ha. I see the usual suspects gathering around the cauldron then.    

Also, has Saint been around? I bet he's loving all the 'I'll never watch BB again" refusniks posting now! 

I just watched on catch up and am still laughing at Cami practically elbowing Nadia in the face in her desperation to be chief comforter of Chloe.

 

Michelle is rocking it, I also took to her on launch night when she walked through the door and said'great I don't have to suck my gut in now'

 

Ken has saved Alexander and Chloe,thoughht Alexander handling Ken the way he did,did him far more good than his singing..

*budges up to make room for Xochers*

I think we would all act differently in the situation Kaffs, I really do think that she was shocked and offended and had every right to be. I just watched it again, immediately it happened she said, "Seriously Jeremy that's not okay, I'm leaving now," walked away from the situation and tried to head straight for the DR, but was intercepted by others. Tbh, I'm still shocked that people here seemed to have absolutely no sympathy for her given that she had just been sexually assaulted, rather suggesting that she was 'faking/milking' it 'saving herself from eviction'

I really didn't see any remorse Crunchy, he came out of the bathroom all cocky, (and surprisingly sober,) minimised and justified what he did, tried to blame her because she was naked under her robe and tried to make out that it was 'flirtation.' He only apologised when put under some pressure.

As for Ken, yes, he should have been bloody well chucked out too.

supes    I hate disagreeing with you.. and I guess you probably have way more experience (not personally obviously) of situations like this than I do (that reads weird, but I think you know what I mean)    I do have sympathy for her - and I can accept she was shocked and offended and in no way do I condone what he did.   Having seen how quickly he 'sobered up' I don't believe what he did was innocent, I think he was trying it on.    

 

That said, I don't think he touched her, did he?   From what I remember (i don't have it recorded so haven't rewatched) he pulled her robe and she had nothing underneath.      Just a small difference, but a difference to me  and of course, it's his word that he didn't know that, but sorry, I do think she got a bit hysterical.  I just keep imagining myself in that situation and the feeling I get isn't fear and panic, it's simply anger.    

 

As an aside...  maybe I'm a prude, but I'd not be floating around a houseful of people I hardly know wearing only a robe and nothing else.  That would make me feel vulnerable  - way too easy for a tie to come loose by accident.   Even if I'm staying overnight in a friend's house, if I was expecting a lazy morning over brekkie, I'd take jammies with me to wear under a robe (even if I don't actually sleep in them..)    I'm maybe a bit strange that way - but I don't even do the 'all girls together' thing... never mind in mixed company.

 

Edit... that last paragraph is just a comment... I'm not saying she deserved to have her robe pulled open. 

I think I saw a little bit remorse... but it was more a 'god what am I doing' sort of thing which, to me, goes much further than the incident int he bathroom - I think he's a very disturbed individual. 

Well Jeremy getting the boot has made the news on BBC text UK.

 

The incident began when the actor, 34, got drunk on a mixture of rum and vodka and vomited in the toilet.

He was being comforted by glamour model Chloe Goodman, who suddenly exclaimed: "That's not OK, I'm leaving now", before leaving the bathroom in tears.

Goodman said: "He went to my dressing grown top and put my boob out."

The incident itself was not broadcast when the Channel 5 show showed the aftermath of the incident in Saturday night's show, as cameras do not film in the toilet.

Jackson at first defended himself, telling the housemates he "didn't know she had nothing on underneath" the robe.

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-30766963

Listening to him in the diary room, he had rationalised it and had got around to almost blaming her - which made me sneer at him -'she insisted on helping me' i.e her fault being in there.

'she lent over me' - i.e even more her fault.

'I'm not good at flirting signals' - i.e. it's not my fault.

 

I agree Kaffs he's a damaged soul, not nasty just raddled, which tbf to Perez,is what he said within hours of going into the house.

Har har ,Oh for comma in the right place.

Awww, Kaffs, no hard feelings, just a different point of view I'm not sure if he touched her boob or not, it's a bit unclear, but I imagine it would have been difficult not to when he pulled her robe open and he did say "I barely touched her" which suggests, even by his own admission, that he did to some degree. What I do know is that he repeatedly tried to 'blame' her, saying that she insisted on coming in and helping him, was bending over his face with her boobs in her face, that he wondered if she was making a pass at him and if she had a bikini on, so grabbed her robe to see. He then queried why she would come into a private room with him naked, again implying that she was 'asking for it.' He was also inconsistent in his story, initially saying when confronted by Callum that he thought she was wearing a swimsuit, but also saying 'Curiosity Killed the cat' and then later saying that he didn't know if she was wearing a bikini, so he opened her robe to see. He also says that what she did seemed like flirtation to him, again blaming her rather than taking responsibility for his behaviour.

You put it so much better than me Supes.

 

I do think that initially she was shocked and affronted, she was actually being kind and considerate to him, so shock seems appropriate.

I think the tears were real as well,I know people, female ones whose reaction to being shocked or out of their depth is to cry. Blokes in the same position just start shouting and ranting.

 

I think she liked or felt safe in the female concern that engulfed her, in the rather formidable form  of Nadia and in  the limpet grasp of Cami.

Good to see that at least one person agrees with me JB