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Why, if all the Nadia "hate" has nothing to do with her gender reassignment WHY in NEARLY EVERY thread about Nadia is her gender dragged up and ripped to shreds (by the same forum members i may add) WHY is it even mentioned?
if Nadia is a bitch (in someones opinion) then why cant that just be said? it's not hard to grasp that someones gender doesnt make them the person they are?? This place seems to have turned into some kinda haven for folk to vent their "hate" for Nadia with no compassion? To The people who are so quick to dismiss her and what she has been through, Id like to see how you would react when coming up against your OWN views if this transgender issue were to ever effect any of your children, siblings or ones you love.
Okay, I'm going to try and answer this from the perspective of someone who doesn't hate Nadia, but has disliked a lot of her behaviour; has some compassion for her current situation, but also thinks she needs to take responsibilty for her own actions rather than blame it all on others/the BB edit; and incidentally from someone who has close first hand-experiences of gender dysphoria affecting people v close to me:
Why, if all the Nadia "hate" has nothing to do with her gender reassignment WHY in NEARLY EVERY thread about Nadia is her gender dragged up and ripped to shreds (by the same forum members i may add) WHY is it even mentioned?
'Cos it's human nature? Same way as in just about every thread where people were expressing dislike for Josie her weight was mentioned, or in just about every thread about Steve his disability was mentioned etc. etc. That doesn't make it right but that is, imo, part of the explanation, however I think it's much more complicated than that: Nadia's 'mission' in BB5 was to be accepted as a woman, it was, I believe why so many warmed to her, empathised with her and most probably was a big part of why she went on to win the show. It was also, I assume, one of the main reasons BB chose her as a contestant, it made her 'interesting,' just as, for example, Pete's tourettes made him 'interesting.' Hence, for many, to now talk about Nadia, without remembering her and making reference to her as someone who has had gender reassignment surgery is v difficult. Also: we all have our own individual views as to what we see as 'masculine' and 'feminine' traits and how much we reject or accept 'stereotypical' gender behaviour, largely affected by our culture and our socialisation. I've seen numerous comments on here, relating to a number of hms which relate to these stereotypes, not just Nadia e.g. I don't think much of those guys in there, if a bloke had said that to me I'd expect my fella to punch him on the nose; she's really let herself go not wearing make-up or doing her hair etc. etc. etc. Additionally, gender identity is v important to just about everyone, so much so that those who feel that they are born into the the wrong gender body will experience such distress and go to such lengths to change this.... Nadia does often stand out as exhibiting what is viewed as 'stereotypical' masculine behaviour, i.e. aggression, which is presumably why some people find her hard to understand and come out with comments like she isn't a 'lady,' (incidentally that criticism was also levelled at Josie because she wasn't seen as stereotypically 'feminine')
If Nadia is a bitch (in someones opinion) then why cant that just be said?
That's what I see happening most on here, the ones that don't do that are v much in the minority.
Interestingly, 'bitch' is a word that is often used to describe her: a negative word that relates to 'female'!!!
I am not excusing what have been some nasty and spiteful remarks about Nadia's gender, but there is much implication that anyone's dislike of her must to some degree be because of her gender reassignment, I just don't see that to be true and furthermore how that can be possible, especially as she used to be so popular.
it's not hard to grasp that someones gender doesnt make them the person they are??
I disagree, I think that our gender and and our gender identity is a very significant defining feature of all of us.
This place seems to have turned into some kinda haven for folk to vent their "hate" for Nadia with no compassion?
Nadia doesn't have the monopoly on that! Surely that can be said of just about any hm who is disliked, (hate may be too strong a word,) and more often than not, even when that hm is apparently suffering, there'll always be a good many who will either say it's all an act or that they deserved everything they got because they brought it on themselves.