Can someone, in plain English please explain

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Why, if all the Nadia "hate" has nothing to do with her gender reassignment WHY in NEARLY EVERY thread about Nadia is her gender dragged up and ripped to shreds (by the same forum members i may add) WHY is it even mentioned? if Nadia is a bitch (in someones opinion) then why cant that just be said? it's not hard to grasp that someones gender doesnt make them the person they are??

This place seems to have turned into some kinda haven for folk to vent their "hate" for Nadia with no compassion? To The people who are so quick to dismiss her and what she has been through, Id like to see how you would react when coming up against your OWN views if this transgender issue were to ever effect any of your children, siblings or ones you love.

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SazBombMember

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This place seems to have turned into some kinda haven for folk to vent their "hate" for Nadia with no compassion?

Just Nadia?

9/6/106:28 AM

LeccyMember

Cannot find fault with that Mono, agree with every word!

9/6/106:29 AM

Monobrow (Sam is a legend)Member

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Just Nadia?

You get my jist!!!

9/6/106:32 AM

Monobrow (Sam is a legend)Member

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Cannot find fault with that Mono, agree with every word

and ya just know the very people I ref to aint gonna answer (I dont think they can)

9/6/106:33 AM

SazBombMember

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Cannot find fault with that Mono, agree with every word!

sycophant!

9/6/106:35 AM

batemanMember

I think a list is required.

9/6/106:37 AM

Former Member

I agree and I am in a right old strop about it so am going back to work. I only popped home for a sandwich and got all cross on another thread.

9/6/106:38 AM

Dame_Ann_AverageMember VIP10 years

I agree, gender shouldn't even be brought into it and the point I've been trying to make is the editing of Coolio's behaviour which could have explained some of her tantrums, not all but some. We all can't agree on house mates we like, but dislike them for their personality and not race, sexual orientation or gender.

9/6/106:39 AM

Monobrow (Sam is a legend)Member

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I think a list is required

I don't think there is any need.

9/6/106:39 AM

SpiderMonkeyMember

Most of the threads on this forum about Nadia have been sympathetic I think. Perhaps there are a few here who are not sympathetic because of their interpretation of her behaviour in the house, but personally speaking I have not seen any posts where her gender reassignment is being used against her in a derogatory way. I think the majority of forum members felt sorrow for her reception last Friday and additionally were unimpressed with Davina's ill chosen "jokes".

In short, I am not seeing this "haven of hatred" that you speak of.

9/6/106:42 AM

MrMincePieMember

I said my bit in another thread, didnt like her because I found her loud mouthed and annoying... it was actually someone else who decided to question my post who brought the gender thing into it

9/6/106:42 AM

LeccyMember

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sycophant!

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Absolutely, I thought Nadia, this time was bad tempered, stroppy, even more highly strung...if I'd know that Coolio was treating her the way he was I would have understood more. We all would have, surely? She could not live with that level of harassment and be all sweetness and light.

9/6/106:43 AM

Former Member

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Exactly - I know I would have been. I feel so sorry for her to be honest.

9/6/106:44 AM

Monobrow (Sam is a legend)Member

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Most of the threads on this forum about Nadia have been sympathetic I think. Perhaps there are a few here who are not sympathetic because of their interpretation of her behaviour in the house, but personally speaking I have not seen any posts where her gender reassignment is being used against her in a derogatory way. I think the majority of forum members felt sorrow for her reception last Friday and additionally were unimpressed with Davina's ill chosen "jokes". In short, I am not seeing this "haven of hatred" that you speak of.

you must be wearing rose tinted glasses

9/6/106:44 AM

SazBombMember

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In short, I am not seeing this "haven of hatred" that you speak of.

I think its more of a coven really

9/6/106:45 AM

Monobrow (Sam is a legend)Member

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I said my bit in another thread, didnt like her because I found her loud mouthed and annoying... it was actually someone else who decided to question my post who brought the gender thing into it

Fair enough, but then you did also at some point call Nadia a he

9/6/106:46 AM

SpiderMonkeyMember

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you must be wearing rose tinted glasses

Perhaps you could provide me with some links to these threads which slag off Nadia's gender then.

9/6/106:46 AM

PrometheusMember

Way OTT Monobrow. Most of the forum members have stated their intense dislike for Nadia's foul aggressive screeching and attention-seeking without once even hinting at her gender. In fact it's an insult, you're more or less labelling everyone who doesn't like Nadia as homophobic/transphobic just because they don't like her. Ridiculous.

9/6/106:47 AM

MrMincePieMember

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Fair enough, but then you did also at some point call Nadia a he

A careless mistake

9/6/106:48 AM

LeccyMember

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I think its more of a coven really

9/6/106:48 AM

Dame_Ann_AverageMember VIP10 years

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I agree Leccy, I went right off Nadia, now with this information out in the public, Nadia deserved better and it's certainly changed my view of why she behaved like she did at times.

9/6/106:48 AM

Monobrow (Sam is a legend)Member

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you're more or less labelling everyone who doesn't like Nadia as homophobic/transphobic just because they don't like her. Ridiculous.

No, I am really not, But read it how you wish Prom. I'm not labelling anyone as anything, other than the few that constantly bang on about gender as a little uneducated/stupid. And I dont consider anything I have said as OTT

9/6/106:49 AM

SpiderMonkeyMember

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Way OTT Monobrow. Most of the forum members have stated their intense dislike for Nadia's foul aggressive screeching and attention-seeking without once even hinting at her gender. In fact it's an insult, you're more or less labelling everyone who doesn't like Nadia as homophobic/transphobic just because they don't like her. Ridiculous.

I think it's bizarre that Mono makes the leap of anyone disliking Nadia's behaviour in the house as being a derogatory and transphobic attack on Nadia's gender. Particularly in light of any evidence given so far.

9/6/106:50 AM

CroctacusMember

Nadia is a bitch, there Ive said it just like I did in BB5...she was a bitch then and is a bitch now.

9/6/106:50 AM

PrometheusMember

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I'm not labelling anyone as anything, other than the few that constantly bang on about gender as a little uneducated/stupid.

They are, but it is the very few, not the majority who find her objectionable and even repulsive for a multitude of other reasons, as your OP seems to imply.

9/6/106:51 AM

SpiderMonkeyMember

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the few that constantly bang on

There's a world of difference between "a few" people, and this forum being labelled a "haven of hatred". Of course there might be one or two here who disagree with transgenderism (did I just make up a new word?) but please remember that those are a very small minority of this forum as a collective. That is the point.

9/6/106:53 AM

Monobrow (Sam is a legend)Member

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I think it's bizarre that Mono makes the leap of anyone disliking Nadia's behaviour in the house as being a derogatory and transphobic attack on Nadia's gender

THAT is not what I have said at all....I have said its fair enough for people to dislike her personality but when gender is dragged into it I find it unnecessary. I find it bizarre you seem unable to read what is actually there.

And Prom, I dont think my opening post suggests I think the majority of FMs think that way at all, I dont think I suggest any kinda numbers? Just that its the same FMs everytime (dont think i mentioned how many FMs that is?)

9/6/106:54 AM

batemanMember

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I don't think there is any need.

Okay.

Thought may aid those who's opinions were de trop address them.

9/6/106:54 AM

SpiderMonkeyMember

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I find it bizarre you seem unable to read what is actually

No, you find it annoying that I and others have taken exception to your gross and unfounded generalisation.

9/6/106:56 AM

Monobrow (Sam is a legend)Member

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No, you find it annoying that I and others have taken exception to your gross and unfounded generalisation

Nope, I'm not annoyed, Just fail to see how its a generalisation. I aint said anywhere that you are all a bunch of transphobes. But hey, read into it what you will...My skin is thick enough to not give a monkeys what ya think.

AND even if I had said this forum is full of transphobes, I have since said "the same few" But hey, donnt let that stand in your way

9/6/106:59 AM

batemanMember

You kinda do give a monkey's what some people think. Hence this thread, no?

9/6/107:02 AM

SpiderMonkeyMember

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This place seems to have turned into some kinda haven for folk to vent their "hate" for Nadia with no compassion?

This statement is unrepresentative of the majority opinion on this forum, so to call it a haven, meaning a place where these people are welcomed with open arms if they are uncompassionate about Nadia's gender, is actually very offensive.

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Just fail to see how its a generalisation

9/6/107:04 AM

LockesMember

were are these threads I aint seen any

9/6/107:04 AM

Mount Olympus *Olly*Member 10 years

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Nadia is a bitch, there Ive said it just like I did in BB5...she was a bitch then and is a bitch now.

agrees with this ^^^

My objection to Nadia is the way she handles herself when she is upset/annoyed or just in a mood. .be it about lack of ciggies or the dreadful treatment Coolio gave her. . the reaction is the same level...

I also do not nor never did like her Diva attitude ..

I would respect her more if she learned how to deal with bad situations in a much more effective and Adult way than going bonkers off the head ranty loud and shouty with Diva strops thrown in..

9/6/107:09 AM

Ev (Peachy)Member

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Reference: Croc Nadia is a bitch, there Ive said it just like I did in BB5...she was a bitch then and is a bitch now.

agrees with this ^^^

My objection to Nadia is the way she handles herself when she is upset/annoyed or just in a mood. .be it about lack of ciggies or the dreadful treatment Coolio gave her. . the reaction is the same level... I also do not nor never did like her Diva attitude .. I would respect her more if she learned how to deal with bad situations in a much more effective and Adult way than going bonkers off the head ranty loud and shouty with Diva strops thrown in..

Agree's as well

9/6/107:11 AM

LeccyMember

Now I know what Coolio was up to I understand a bit more why she was in such a bad flippin' mood all the time. I'm not excusing her bad temper though, she really is a right mardy mare.

9/6/107:13 AM

Mount Olympus *Olly*Member 10 years

I'd say DS is the place that is full of the transphobic people. . not here. .

tho I've seen a few comments from a very few people that made me go oooer you're a bit dodgy ....

9/6/107:14 AM

cologne 1Member Memoriam

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I'd say DS is the place that is full of the transphobic people. . not here.

Somebody over there keeps calling her 'it'.

9/6/107:23 AM

LeccyMember

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Somebody over there keeps calling her 'it'

I've seen her described as a "creature" on here too.

9/6/107:27 AM

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